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Nuri Bilge Ceylan saved European arthouse last decade
He is not European and European arthouse is just fine. He should be writing books, his last films were so literary, it was annoying.
HinduKino and truly Joker film, not that american flick from last year.
>Raj Kapoor put in his own money in the film also mortgaged his house, The film took 6 years to complete and was a big loss.
sad
>3 hours 44 minutes
the fuck was he thinking
I swear this is the comfiest movie ever made, I've watched like 7 times in the past five years and I love it even more each time. Philip Marlowe is just such a kino character and Altman’s direction is at its peak.
It's a great film. Love the opening
I've decided to go through all of Godard's First French New Wave Period. Should I stop after Weekend, or are there any gems following that film?
That's a shitty poster
It gest better with rewatches, this is true.
also true
I personally don’t like Godard at all, I feel as if he is the epitome of style over substance, but if you’re into him then Contempt and Pierrot le Fou I would say are his best.
The poster here is fine but the first one really does capture the tone and spirit of the film more so than the latter which makes it look like an action thriller. Marlowe only uses his gun once, and it’s a smith and Wesson not whatever revolver is pictured in the poster.
>He is not European
He is.
not him. seeing 60s France is always pretty awesome, and you see that in Godard's old films. but Godard doesn't bring anything to it. I'd much rather watch Truffaut or Varda or Roehmer
my favorite Godard is 2 or 3 Things I Know About Her, which is plotless nonsense, but it's late 60s France in color, and it's both glamorous and mundane. once again, Godard's style brings nothing to the table, but the sights are stimulating absent of any filmmaking talent
Malick did it again. Masterpiece.
Turkish is not European. Learn the difference.
Turkey is part Europe, part Asia. He was born in the European part of Istanbul.
Fuck Istanbul. Turkey is Asia and Turks arent Europeans no matter in what part of Istanbul they were born.
Cope mutt. Turkish people will always be more European than you.
Cope more, muslim monkey. Ceylan is about as white as Obama.
Someone being European or not isn't defined by whiteness. And I'm not Turkish nor muslim. Keep seething muttlard.
Sure thing Ahmed. Go fuck a goat.
>Godard's First French New Wave Period
Wtf does this mean? There is no second FNW
Keep projecting Ahmed.
You're both dumb as shit go to fucking Yas Forums dipshits
No
Im not from UK. Cope more Ahmed.
Get this Yas Forums argument outta here. No one cares about your racial purity bullshit. Fuck off.
Why do you have so many of these pictures Ahmed?
Why do you keep pretending you're white?
Ahmed, im not from US eitther. Just write all the countries that you consider white and we can end this dispute at once.
You're the one who brought up whiteness. Ceylan is objectively European. There's nothing you can do about it mutt.
Keep seething Ahmed.
What did Dracula mean by this expression?
Alphaville is a good example of exemplifying everything I was writing about when it came to surrealism. Surrealism was clearly, morally reactionary and founded in folkish, self destructive agitation in the face of unifying technological progress. And later Godards moaist tendencies show a direct link to the figures that pioneered neo-reaction and those on the forefront of the ‘dark enlightenment’ in the early 2010’s and late 2000’s. Those that were sort of mockingly admiring authoritarian attitudes in an attempt to criticize the moral hypocrisy of Jon Stewart’s audience on blogging websites. But we’ve moved past all that and now all those guys live in Asia and it’s obviously the same arguments just getting repeated over again.
Material change and political organization is pointless, we need a mass sort of internal surrealist combustion that totally destroys modern literary and pop culture through expertly intuited juxtaposition. Then we can come to a new era of surrealist civic building, people wearing colonial tri-folded hats and highways going through houses and people living in giant trees and mushrooms.
Is it /film/?
Wow this thread is fucking awful
Besides the usual Dreyer is theatrical, Ozu is confusing, and Italian neorealism is bad autists, we'd been doing pretty well this week. This thread is a lost cause however.
>Dreyer is theatrical
Wrong
>Ozu is confusing
he makes the same movie everytime with same actors
>Italian neorealism is bad
Depends who
>MUH I CAN'T ACCEPT OTHER OPINIONS
Dreyer is theatrical and neorealism is a sham. Deal with it you naive child.
Sounds like it'd take an eternity to get out of it, maybe our march towards globalization will show us our mistakes and somehow avoid technocratic while still moving forward.
I doubt that anyone moderately lucid acquires, distributes, and releases the latest and verbiage mental onanism of the nonagenarian Godard. Therefore, it is absurd for me to talk about it. Among other things because it is impossible for me to understand what he is trying to say, something that happens to me with almost all of his cinema, or film essays as he defines them. It is titled The Image Book. A long voiceover an insufferable litany based on presumably deep and desolate reflections on the state of affairs, accompanying whimsical images that mix movie scenes with jihadist terrorism, the new disguises of capitalism, being and nothingness and things like that.
Godard still manages to cope with the miraculous task of having someone continue to produce his pseudo-artistic nonsense. There were alarming and numerous symptoms of drowsiness in the room. How arduous are those fans who declare that they cannot live without Godard's sacred work to explain with a minimum of rationality the fascination it causes them. But the imposture and the farce continue. May the rigorous guru and the connoisseurs who declare their unconditional love enjoy each other.
Going based off of en.wikipedia.org
I probably didn't word it correctly, but they have "French New Wave" and "Second Wave" following his 70's political pieces.
The fall of Constantinople is considered one of the most tragic events in history of the white man, who the fuck are you kidding?
What's the verdict? Also is the commentary worth listening to?
What do you think happened that night
Imagine the conversation
Godards true appreciators enjoy his direct confrontation of their intuition through his use of editing and music. He can directly confront and guess the viewers active thinking capabilities through the structure of the film, not through words. His understanding of film language is incredibly impressive. Of course the coffee drinking fart sniffing liberal arts kids don’t understand his political analysis of the contemporary media of his time. Godard had an impressive level of esoteric knowledge of the nuance and failures of political movements and the involvement of intelligence organizations in funding and curating student activist groups, twisting conceptions of liberty for the purpose of covert operations for the means of destabilization in foreign countries. To wreck social cohesion in an attempt to create an exploitable populace for the vice industries. This is pretty obviously shown in Breathless with the American women leading to the French mans death. Godard was a Napoleonist
Just watched Night of the Hunter. Pretty interesting movie and the villain was truly intimidating. The child actors were great but the story just felt sloppy and the editing was poor. I can't believe they decided the film deserved to be nationally preserved. It felt like a slap in the face to protestant culture, sort of like how Deliverance made dumb urbanites afraid of rural folk. That is all.
Weird thing is though that greeks and turks are genetically more related to eachother than any other people so it makes no sense that the fall of constantinople has anythingto do with ethnic ancestry.
>you: noooo you cant like godard he's too pretentious
>me(chad): hehe editing machine go vroom vroom
That's a weird way of spelling Christian Petzold
Tout Va Bien
Every Man For Himself
First Name: Carmen
Hail Mary
King Lear
Histoire Du Cinema
Film Socialisme
Goodbye To Language
Pedro Costa
Nice man don't forget to turn in your essay for English 102
Roy Andersson
Wtf those are two different people
Post-Weekend Godard > Pre-Weekend Godard
Ok I see what you mean. I've never seen that period referred to like that. There are plenty of great films after Weekend but they are very divisive. Nouvelle Vague, Adieu au Langage. Prenom Carmen, and Tout Va Bien are some highlights.
Costa is much better. Carax too.
Like Buñuel's Belle de Jour, Eyes Wide Shut deals with a young adult’s navigation in a newfound sexual landscape, but unlike the former which deals with the subject from a female’s perspective, the latter looks at it through the eyes of a man. Much like a coming of age story, it tackles with the unknown by painting it with a dreamlike coating and having our characters approach it with no viable framework.
The naïve worldview of William is shattered once he learns how capricious the fidelity of his wife and women to that matter is. This revelation works as a catalyst which thrusts him to meditate on his own sexual wants, fears and expectations. This pondering is further propagated by the dream she shares with her, affirming that it’s not only a thing in the past, but it’s a constant struggle to balance the lustful side and her familial ties.
The following events roughly represent the journey through the subconscious. What William does and what most people in a situation similar do is don a persona to mask their insecurities and whatever character flaws what could betray them. This is where we find out William is not capable, as he is forced to strip down and remove his mask in front of the watchful eyes. Essentially about to lose his innocence, but a part of him is not willing to do that, to cross that line into the underbelly of sexuality. What follows, is his discovery of his hidden fantasies, though he’s unable to commit to them. Now aware, paranoia of doubt, exposure, not being mature enough in the sexual playing field, all seen manifested after his visit to the mansion.
Unable to hold these feelings of guilt and shame, he comes clean to his wife yes, but mainly to himself. Admitting that he is unable to turn himself into something he is not. The wife reaffirming that the quest for discovering his masculinity has already been done, since he has her.
A lot of scenes in the film only bolster the fact that William has feelings of inadequacy and fears of being labeled a homosexual, things that run contrary to that of a masculine man. The youngsters harassing him, being short statured compared to the two ladies, the concierge hitting on him, being figuratively naked in front of affluent people.
Though very closely adapted from the 1926 book Dream Story, it feels like a spiritual counterweight to Buñuel's film, a molding of two films which explore thoroughly the sexual reawakening of adults.
What did the rest of you think of it?
WATCHED recent
Quatermass and the Pit (1967)
TOP KINO OK
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Any films for this feel?
thank you for the recs. I look forward to going through these
why do you think so?
oh god dude this shit right here makes me want to an hero