Holy shit, I just realized Tom Cruise wasn't the actual last samurai

Holy shit, I just realized Tom Cruise wasn't the actual last samurai...

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Samurai is plural

'Samurai' is also a collective noun. Your thread is over 10 years late.

IT ISN" SINGULAR

The last samurai is us, since everyone in that movie (historically speaking) is now dead. So it is up to the viewer to fight back against the dark forces of globalism. It's not too late!

He was. The samurai clan took him in, accepted him, taught him their ways, and let him bang their women. He became part of the clan and even fought beside them. He was a samurai. And all the other samurai died. So he was the last samurai.

katsumoto was

it was heavily implied the last samurai was the viewer

sage

Tom Cruize was a fake samurai, he didn't fuck little boys in the ass.

/thread

>Tell me how he died
>I'll tell you how he lived
Fucking KINO exchange. This movie was better than it had any right to be.

that nip actor is pure kino

The Last Samurai was the friends we made along the way

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wasn't the last samurai the emperor kid? Am I remembering wrong or just retarded?

Pah. He is ok. Shouldn't even be allowed to breathe the same air as Mifune.

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except they fucked up and didn’t cast Steven Seagal for the main character

This. Fucks's sake OP.

>wasn't the last samurai the emperor kid? Am I remembering wrong or just retarded?
You are both. The tenno is not a samurai neither did he epitomize bushi values in the movie.

t.

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Is this some epic Tropic Thunder reddit meme or are you just retarded or both?

kek this is me

Considering Meiji oversaw the complete abolition of the samurai class; no, probably not

in awe of the size of that bloke real unit

OP is prolly a femanon

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>that kino hair on a 40+ year old Jap man
It's not fair bros.

>The tenno is not a samurai neither did he epitomize bushi values in the movie
bruh I don't know what the hell you're talking about. I just had the vague memory of the emperor being a samurai (in name only) and that's why Tom Cruise went to him at the end or something. I'll have to rewatch it and pay attention to the things you talk about

japanese is a retarded language that doesn't use pluralizers i.e 1 sushi, 10 sushi, 1 ninja, 2 ninja

t. Seethin Seagal

I will have to make do with a receding hairline and evian bottle sized dick

He was though. The nip died before he did.

The _____ fear the samurai

I speak Japanese. Samurai is both plural and singular. These comments make no sense. Japanese uses plural for personal pronouns.

The Emperor is not a samurai.

In Japan, you had the Emperor (who sometimes was a poor, powerless guy who had to write and sell calligraphy to feed himself). He was not a samurai. You had the court nobles who surrounded the Emperor. They were not samurai. And you had the military nobles. Those were samurai.

The "last samurai" is based on Saigo Takamori.

>"Finally I've become The Last Samurai"
was it really necessary to end the movie with that line?

>I will have to make do with a receding hairline and evian bottle sized dick
This one right? You are better off with good looks and with an average or even below average dick. Women can't guess your dick size by looking at your face and it doesn't matter to them when you have grandpa hair anyways.

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the movie is about the end of the samurai as a social class not any one singular samurai

no, however this was
>I will return as The Last Samurai 2: Togo's Revenge

I SAID I WILL HAVE TO MAKE DO

>bruh I don't know what the hell you're talking about. I just had the vague memory of the emperor being a samurai (in name only) and that's why Tom Cruise went to him at the end or something. I'll have to rewatch it and pay attention to the things you talk about
None of this is true neither historically nor in the movie, get your fucking head checked.

It was honestly. As popular as it is to hate it.

>the movie is about the end of the samurai as a social class not any one singular samurai
Really clashes with the narrative of the movie and the final scene. I doubt the title is meant to be understood that way.

thank you for the info kind user. I'll rewatch the movie. Was the kid emperor a random dude or did he inherit the title when his father died?

So do I, it's a transnumeral language. If it doesn't have a specific number attached to it, it's neither plural nor singular. It's ambiguous. Learn your grammatical numbering rules dumbass.

t. little gay guy

>Was the kid emperor a random dude or did he inherit the title when his father died?
Stop asking this beyond stupid questions.

For someone that can speak Japanese you sure know fuck all about the historical context

>Was the kid emperor a random dude or did he inherit the title when his father died?
emperor is decided by lottery and changes every decade

The characters were fictional figures based on some of the historical characters.
Emperor Meiji was already in his mid-20's and ruling for some time when Saigo died.

Imagine a movie that is some Japanese guy going to the US during the Civil war, and siding with the south, because he falls in love with the plantation owning rich elite. That is essentially this movie. The Samurai (who used guns, and even before guns were widely produced, fought primarily with bows and spears. Swords were last resort weapons) were just the noble class pissed off at losing their favoured position in society, and didn't want to do any real work. If they had gotten their way, than Japan would have ended up under Russia or Britain's thumb, instead of modernising.

>what is the plural suffix 達
You are clearly not as knowledgeable as you want to appear to be but at least you agree with me that 'samurai' is not strictly plural which is all I have argued for.

I saw the movie like 5 years ago, by now all I remember for sure is:
Tom Cruise was American military hired to train Japs to fight the samurai.
On their first confrontation they lose but spare Tom Cruise and take him to their village
He stays in the house of the only dude he killed on the battle
He lives with them for some months, learn a lot of things from them, trains with them and ends up liking them a lot
He fucks the wife of the dude he killed and apparently nobody gives a shit, not even their kids
The emperor didn't really wanted to be at war with the samurai
In the final battle all samurai are killed except for Tom Cruise who is wearing the armor of the dude he killed, after fucking his wife
>get your fucking head checked
no way I'm going to a hospital with the current situation dude, I don't wanna die

I probably know more about the meiji-restoration than you do. Not that it is necessary to judge the merits and message of a largely a-historical dumb hollywood movie.

The last samurai are the friends we made along the way

Saigo Takamori was one of the key figures of the Meiji government. He was one of the main figures in overthrowing the Shogunate and is considered a hero in Japan.

He also was right in some of the points he made.

If you know so much how the fuck did you miss the part about the samurai being a dying way of life being swept away by a modernizing Japan? It's not even subtle, there's literally a scene where the new breed of commoner's cuts off the samurai kids top knot

>The last samurai are the friends we made along the way
Dude this is my original comment do not steal

its ok you can say jew

The government should have just let him go and make Koreans seethe so him and his mates could go and die in a suicide pact war, would have saved about 40 years of Japanese effort

Ascendant Weeabo Kinglord

Maybe the real last Samurai were the friends we made along the way.

Maybe the real Ken Sama is fucking dead

I didn't miss it but way more focus and screen time is on Tom Cruise adopting that lifestyle and preserving it as the last survivor which even makes the last and concluding scene of the movie.

He died in the Tsunami dude, he saved lives

Plan was to act like a ass and get killed, to provoke a war, instead of just focus on catching up to the West. Yeah he was a fucking idiot.

A good retainer always gives his life for his master

The Tokugawa's "four divisions of society" prevented social advancement dickhead, he can't become a samurai because he wasn't born one, and Meiji never repudiated that system

>ken sama is actually dead
uh ok

he wind blows. It is 7 in the morning, Ken-sama woke up to the cold morning. He got up, and went to the bathroom to wash his face. Ken-sama live in a traditional Japanese house, he only rent a room though. The old couple is nice enough to let him stay in their house. Ken-sama grepped his kimono and wear it like a proper nihonjin, he walk to a window and smell the fresh nihonjin morning. "Ah, konbanwa anatas. What beautiful morning desu." Ken-sama zoned out looking at the beach from his room. Ken-sama went downstairs to greet the old couple. "Ah, ohayou ojisan and obasan". The old couple replied him with a warm smile and proceed with their breakfast while inviting Ken-sama. Although Ken-sama can not understand them, he easily could read what the old couple is trying to say, he is born with this talent. "Arigato." Ken-sama said, he then went upstairs to take a few things. He took a bokken and a katana, the katana is hidden in his kimono and the bokken is on his obi, this is to avoid being arrested by authorities as he was warned last time. Ken-sama will be going on his usual morning walk to sightseeing the glorious nihonjin country. "Itadakimasu obasan and ojisan", they gave him a mixed smile and a slightly confused expression.

Ken-sama reached the park near the beach, he like to watch kids playing as it is a something that can warm his pure heart. Suddenly, a sudden tremor. No, it's more terrifying than that, it's an earthquake, a huge one. The ground was shaking and beginning to crack, Ken-sama look at the children, they were running away terrified, "minna san! do not run around! Stay in place!" The kids couldn't understand what he was saying, he gestured what he was trying to say, he ordered the kids to stay in the middle of the park as it is too dangerous. But that was Ken-sama's mistake, he look at the beach from afar. It was huge, a tsunami is coming. Ken-sama widened his eyes and look at the children and yelled every Japanese word he knew "Arigatou gozaimasu! Gomenasai! Run away minna-san!" The children ran away, the wave is coming, it was at least 100ft tall. Ken-sama was ashamed with himself, he should have anticipated this, if he did the children would be far away by now. "sumimasen mina-san, it was my mistake", he took his hidden katana and dual wield with the bokken and katana. As he ran towards the tsunami trying to stop it, he uttered his last words. "Arigatou obasan, ojisan. For taking care of me" The wave rise even higher. A shout is heard; "Nippon banzai!".

>The Tokugawa's "four divisions of society" prevented social advancement dickhead, he can't become a samurai because he wasn't born one, and Meiji never repudiated that system
I think you might be retarded or autistic, dude. We are talking about the message of an ahistorical hollywood movie emulating 'Dances with the wolves but in Japan' telling a story about how Ken-sama adopted an idealized and clichee version of the samurai spirit and you pull out the Tokugawa legal code to prove me wrong.

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I'm fairly certain this movie has filtered you, nothing about what it presents is ambiguous, Ken Cruise at best idolizes the lifestyle of the samurai