Remember when Dreamworks made better musicals than Disney? Now they make shit like Boss Baby

>Jewish movie
>made by a bunch of Jews
checks out

ok

Disney is too pussy to make anything new at all. What was the last new thing they released that isn't pixar? Wreck it Ralph or Frozen, after they cannibalized pixar?

>Boss Baby is bad

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The road to El Dorado is my favorite animated movie.

Both have shifted to CGshit so who cares?

Doing God's work

Neither of these movies are musicals. They have soundtracks, but they're not musicals.

Wrong

it's not like disney is making better movies than dreamworks nowadays. maybe I'm biased towards the movies I grew up with but seems to me like children entertainment got worse, for what concerns movies at least

Prince of Egypt was ballsy as fuck, also it didn't hit you over the head with religion

zootopia was pretty good. wreck it ralph too. haven't seen moana but it was directed by competent guys and the reviews say it's good so you can count that too I guess
it's not much but honestly the only good movies pixar made after up were coco and arguably inside out, so mainline disney is on par/winning against them

They are all too ironic and self-aware (as a means of entertaining the parents). I don't want to use memewords but it's dishonest film making.

I sat through that piece of shit Onward the other day and it is exactly what I mean.

was dreamworks entirely relliant on john lasseter to make good movies? their output has been a fucking disaster ever since he has been metoo'd

Not entirely, Cars was his passion project and nobody actually likes them, but even if they still have talented people in Pixar they have lost whatever structure and mechanisms they had to really make their movies work.

The problem with Dreamworks is that they fell for the trilogy-franchise meme. Like HTTYD or Kung Fu Panda are nice films on their own but by the time the 3rd films were out they were a parody of themselves

>The problem with Dreamworks is that they fell for the trilogy-franchise meme
still better than 4 fucking toy story movies that ruined their own legacy

Mate you couldn't be more wrong about that one.

I agree with that, along with Monsters U, Incredibles 2 and whatever other sequels I'm forgetting. Even The Good Dinosaur is better than those cashgrabs.

POST THE CHEL GIFS NOW

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you mean pixar? brad bird was responsible for their two best movies ratatoullie and incredibles 1 so they still have a chance

>moana
Moana shat on and distorted the original Hawaiian mithos in order to push a feminist agenda. I don't mind, I do but less so, if you do that with more well know folklore since it still has strong enough "roots" to the collective culture to preserve itself. But that is not the case for native Hawaiian mythology and culture, and that begin corrupted in order t make a for profit movie more aprocheable to general audiences is unforgivable.

Okay so yeah zootopia. I already mentioned wreck it ralph. Idk why inside out seems to be so divisive for some people, I thought it was super endearing and it made me tear up a couple of times. Some people think it was a bad pixar film though. Media from books to movies to music does make me laugh/tear up pretty easily but even still I thought it was an inventive movie even if I knew what would happen to a degree after sadness showed up in the first scene. It's about the journey not the destination right? And the end credits with the dog and cat emotions were based.

I really don't get why you would be fine with them distorting european fairy tales but messing with hawaiian myths is going too far

Boss Baby was kino.

post the hot brown chick

will disney ever make another film with a male protagonist, like Aladdin or Hercules?

You’re obsessed

wreck it ralph had a male protagonist. so did zootapia even though it was a buddy cop movie

Captain underpants was surprisingly good too

European stuff is white, Hawaiian is brown, that's why.

He’s just pointing out a truth that most people ignore. He’s a spreader of knowledge, a torch burning bright in a world of darkness.

Simply because they are so ingrained in today's culture. You learn about several greeks myths in school. You have mandatory reading of Jason and the Argonauts or maybe Theseus in high school. It's all well documented and written about, so any "liberties" taken with ti are obvious and easily pointed to, ´preserving the original idea. But hat is not true with Hawaiian or original Polynesian myths in general, any changes deeply affect the original stories since most of them are not properly recorded.

those myths are tought because they are considered important to the western civilization. if you went to a polynesian school you would probably be exposed to their myths like you are to western fairy tales in the west
if anything this kind of adaptation bring attention to those stories and contribute to their continuation. if moana didn't exist many people in the west most likely wouldn't have even heard of that story. now they go 'oh so there is an actual myth about that? neat, imma go read about it'

>wreck it ralph
I meant a movie where the male protagonist isn't a bumbling idiot. plus they shit over ralph's entire character development in the second movie
>zootopia
I always forget about the fox because everyone's always talking about how they want to fuck that bunny. but I guess this counts

>if you went to a polynesian school you would probably be exposed to their myths
Except they were outlawed for a long time in British rule And Hawaiian langue and culture was also outlawed for a time under american rule, and for a culture that relies on passing it's stories trough oral means it's devastating.
> if moana didn't exist many people in the west most likely wouldn't have even heard of that story. now they go 'oh so there is an actual myth about that? neat, imma go read about it'

You know that is not true for the majority of people. And even then it does not excuse the total butchering of the original stóries that have a deep cultural and historical significance to a culture. Again I'm not saying it's ok to try and fuck with European mythology for profit, only that is less damaging.

Wow, they hired Jewish people to make a movie about the Book of Exodus?

ralph didn't seem like a bumbling idiot to me, not more than hercules who was very naive and flat as far as characterization went. dunno about the sequel but it is almost universall disliked as far as I know and it's not like disney has a good track record when it comes to sequels

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>Tfw I made out with a Mexican chick who looked like this in a club
>We planned to have sex but never did
>A month later she is pregnant
Wew

It's literally not true, slaves didn't build the pyramids.

I guess the sequel is clouding my memory then because he's definitely a bumbling idiot in the sequel

hollywood is not a cultural insitution for the historical preservation of culture and tradition. it is an industry. always has been and always will be.
you are not only advocating for it to become something that it isn't supposed to be, but that it goes out of its way to preserve the myths of every culture, while it would be much simpler to, you know, not pass down those myths only through oral means
at least the movie put the spotlight over a population and culture that gets very little exposure which potentially makes interest for that culture increase and maybe create a demand or a potential market for a faithful adaptation of those myths
but I guess you would rather rely on on others to preserve your culture or let it disappear

just like buzz was a bumbling idiot in toy story 4 and 3 to a lesser extent. hollywood in general and disney in particular seem to have a fondness to ruin beloved characters. I guess ralph just didn't have enough time to shine

Cortes did nothing wrong.

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The Exodus is part of Christian mythology as well you dumbfucks

oh I'm sorry, I thought I was watching an animated adaptation of a biblical book, but apparently it was marketed to you as an historical movie

Moana was fucking garbage
Wreck it Ralph was pretty good, the sequel was irredeemable crap
Zootopia was decent if you can somehow forget about the fact that it was blatant furry bait

>blatant furry bait
do you let internet weirdos ruin robin hood and fox and the hound for you as well?

Both of these are unadulterated kino. And what's better is that Disneyfags will never bandwagon and ruin it.

Kind of hard seeing how they didn't have written traditions and writing itself was a foreign concept to many cultures.
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at least the movie put the spotlight over a population and culture that gets very little exposure which potentially makes interest for that culture increase and maybe create a demand or a potential market for a faithful adaptation of those myths
>but I guess you would rather rely on on others to preserve your culture or let it disappear
never said that I'm not a fervent believer of any crap "fanatics" spouts about cultural appropriation and colonialist oppression. but it can not be denied that people who where colonized had their culture suppress and, many times, completely overwritten by what was considered civilized. So preserving that culture is and was a challenge.
>at least the movie put the spotlight over a population and culture that gets very little exposure which potentially makes interest for that culture increase and maybe create a demand or a potential market for a faithful adaptation of those myths
That is absolute bullshit. I'm not asking for more representation for more "demand" and "adaptations" those do not matter and in fact harm the cultural preservation of "endangered" mythologies.
See how christian react, with reason, to the portrayal of a gay Jesus. That is essentially what is happening here , except most Hawaiian culture is not able to defend itself since it's faded even from the original cultural mindset of the islands.
Now what is imprinted in everyone's mind is a "gay jesus" because a massive global corporation believed that would sell more tickets to the movie.

prince of egypt was cool as fuck, turned me religious