Was he right? Why aren't you more like Tyler?
Was he right? Why aren't you more like Tyler?
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too busy beeing myself
He was right about some things
Life and responsibility got in the way.
>Why aren't you more like Tyler?
Because I understood the point of the movie, retard.
No, he was a crazy retard, and the narrator realised this
But was he right, even if his methods were too extreme?
No
Why not
he was wrong about making napalm from orange juice concentrate.
What movie is this? Seriously I have no idea, assuming it’s got Brad Pitt it must be a Tarantino flick right?
The only problem was that his followers didn't get his message, they would never have been so obedient otherwise. If anyone thinks anything he did was "wrong" they're just a conformist beta.
The whole point was that he's a hypocrite.
Pic related is what you look like when you take the Tyler pill
All he did was create another establishment
>live life to please women instead of pleasing corporations.
it's very similar.
Have you been doing research on how to make napalm, friend?
> Why aren't you more like Tyler?
Because life isn't a film. And just because you're seeing things from your perspective doesn't mean you're the main character.
It's not about pleasing women, it's about creating therapy sessions for depressed men who get to beat the shit out of each other for not other reason than to indulge in their primal desires for violence, physical competition and domination
>Because life isn't a film.
I often see this said but it's not really an argument, it's just a dismissal. It's avoiding the issue at hand. We live in stories and have done so every since cavemen were sitting around fires.
>it's just a dismissal
Because this is a fucking film, it's not a real life story, it's fiction and things don't work out that way for people in real life.
Tyler was half right. Jacks existence was miserable and he only took slight pleasure in buying useless shit.
yea /k/ told me its styrofoam alcohol and gasoline
Why aren't you specifically saying what wouldn't turn out right? Love is an actual concept despite being represented in film. Just because something is represented in fiction doesn't mean it's not real, it's a shitty argument beating around the issue.
that's bullshit and you know it
It's beta white male fantasy porn, Patrice was right
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tyler, narrator and marla we're all the same person
kino
Fight Club my zoomer friend
films nonwhite will never understand-core
meant for
Nonexistent? Yeah I wish
Because I haven't been 17 in over a decade.
What was even the argument? The narrator wasn't necessarily a beta male, he was an average male. The philosophy of the movie claims most if not all men in the modern world are obedient beta males, including Patrice and black men.
>chad takes over and changes the world
>nah i want to be the cuckold
He literally cucked himself, although such a thing shouldn't be possible.
I think his point was that he thinks the movie is a power fantasy for middle class white men and in that sense it doesn't really appeal to blacks because they don't have middle class white man problems.
Because unlike Tyler, I have a loving and caring family
Patrice O'Neal was upper class and most blacks are middle class. He just sound like a retard and I'm not surprised he died early. He couldn't even control himself from sugar addiction, that's what a fucking chump he was.
>blacks because they don't have middle class white man problems
very true. Jack's problems about (actually caring about) an absentee father, being forced to civility and non-aggression in society and the workplace, maintaining domestic interests and skills (as consoomerist as they may be), having disposable income but nothing or noone to spend it on, (having the self-awareness to identify) modernism's effect on lack of purpose or identity...these are things no black man would really identify with or apply to.
Sounds like a faggot
No u
Hey stop posting coherent discourse on my Armenian birdwatching forum
>I can't understand the themes therefor it doesn't apply to me
Make Patrice read Nietzsche and he'll just say "dat some white people shiet"
You're almost certainly right, but...
wouldn't that apply in reverse?
For example?
Like would a normal person be able to identify with the (admittedly shitty) lyrics and themes of a Kendrick Lamar or Kanye album, or would they immediately dismiss it as a "black thing"?
>comparing kanye to nietzsche
My point is the themes within Fight Club like anti-consumerism and masculinity apply to everyone similar to a lot of philosophy. It doesn't really matter what Patrice thinks about it, it still applies to him. It's so obvious too, he died a fatass addicted to sugar. He's like a perfect example of what the movie talks about
>the themes don't apply to me therefor I can't understand them
*I* am not. But it's the kind of example that Patrice would. Is that so surprising?
It's an example to illustrate a point. Besides, what popular, yet accessible African intellectuals are there that I could use for the purpose of this hypothetical?
perhaps. although I still have a hard time imagining that an average western black can relate to these ideas. these are the same people that think wu-tang-clan and Jay-Z are deep.
fuck me, some serious Reddit spacing there. everyone point and laugh at me and call me a faggot for my mistake.
The average western black man don't know what the word "Consumerism" means. 35% of black people fall under "low literacy", they can barely even read or write complete sentences.
speaking of stats, what would Tyler say about 13% and 50%?
>normal person
Kek
>couldn’t even think of one black director/author
nope. and?
Fight Club is a love story about the narrator and Marla all the fight Club and living with Tyler and project mayhem stuff is the narrator growing up; love story with maturity as a backdrop.
>Spike lee
>Jordan Peele
>Maya Angelou
>Frederick Douglass
>W.E.B Du Bois
I’m not even American and I knew these. Some real 70IQ posting going on in this thread
Unfortunately all we got from that culture was minimalism and eco gymfags, who, like Tyler, still do it all for women and require hesitant underlings to make him seem attractive by comparison. Patrice did more for men by at least having them think about a bitch management strategy.
>>Spike lee
>>Jordan Peele
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>Maya Angelou
>Frederick Douglass
>W.E.B Du Bois
>>writers who EXCLUSIVELY wrote about black issues.
how would anyone relate to that?