So which was worse?
So which was worse?
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STD. Stupid thread. Stupid OP.
Is this the damage control option Picardfags are taking?
>well at least it wasn't as bad as STD, right? Right?!
Both are drivel, STD is objectively worse though.
Both are shit, though Picard is especially insulting for taknig a shit on him and characters from TNG
Stop counting anything made after DS9 as canon. If it doesn't follow TNG and TOS in terms of how human beings act then it is not Star Trek.
>no wars
>no bigotry
>no hunger
>no needs that require money/work
That's Star Trek. Humans literally have nothing better to do but explore the stars and learn new things.
In pure standalone quality STD is worse, but STP is more insulting.
romulans objectively did nothing wrong
I’m waiting for RLM to tell me
Jay here, I don't watch Star Trek, nerd.
>STD copied shitty point and click game that won some award on steam
>pukard copied worst mass effect game
I wonder what vidya will they rip off in the next nu trek trainwreck.
Both are shit but STP is just about bearable. STD is completely unwatchable drek.
Although, after saying that episode 10 of Picard was at pure STD levels of shit too.
They are both equally shit garbage.
i mean STP shit on Picard and old crew legacy, but STD is way worse.
I think the best point RLM makes is at the beginning of each Picard review.
>Remember when every episode had a beginning, a middle, and an end?
It was so comfy, so perfect...
>Captain's Log to explain the basic premise
>something insane happens
>intro and music calms you down by taking you through the stars then ramps you up to get you excited to go back into the story
>[insert Captain's Log here if the pre-title scene had none]
I miss it, but at least it'll never go away from my collection of the good Trek...
To be fair STD shits on Spock and retroactively ruins TOS.
What do you mean some nigger bitch being spocks mentor is disgusting?
I'd say Picard but really we're arguing here whether dogshit or horseshit stinks worse.
Picard is actually more "insulting". Completely shits on characters we already knew. I also learned how much of a complete faggot Patrick Stewart is and now I really don't like the guy at all anymore.
I've kind of come around on Enterprise over the years. I like that nobody has really figured everything out yet about who they will be by TOS and especially TNG not even the Vulcans. The last few seasons are pretty good.
Of course you came around, it was actually pretty good.
They should have sent their women into the federation. Who would turn down an invasion of cute space elves wanting to live with you and breed a new generation to rule the stars?
It's like you haven't actually watched DS9.
Unironically Picard was worse. Plot points trail off and go nowhere like STD.
Despite having 10 episodes it had about enough content for a TNG 2 parter.
Character development goes nowhere as they meander around pointlessly for ten episodes and then characters just pop into things (like Seven and Raffi suddenly being lesbian lovers).
The narrative about Brexit which was Stewarts main motivation is super on the nose.
At least STD, while a piece of shit, develops it's characters (even if they are developed into shit and uninteresting). And somehow manages to hammer you in the face less with real world politics.
Both are equal. Same objective, same result.
Picard was waaay worse
It's like you haven't actually watched DS9.
They had literal single episodes that were more coherent and told a more compelling and in depth story than the entire season of picard.
>STD copied shitty point and click game that won some award on steam
huh?
I don't follow that homo youtuber that kept shilling this story. What happened with the lawsuit?
Picard was worse because Disco is easier to retcon.
I actually managed to muscle my way through 2 whole seasons of STD, but couldn't bring myself to watch past the first few episodes of Picard.
I guess STD gets some points in its favor for not shitting all over established, well-liked characters.
Explain to me emo, dyslexic, laughing, singing Spock and how that isn't shitting on a well liked character.
>not shitting all over established, well-liked characters.
Gilbert & Sullivan.....Hell yeah.
The JJ abrahams movies did Spock worse though, where in he is angry and emotional in almost every scene
True, STD wasn't much better though.
>a shit on him and characters from TNG
Well, everyone except Riker...his two seconds in the finale were great.
I've been watching it for the first time thanks to this virus and I agree. It's really fun watching the humans say "Prime Directive, what's that lol" only to start to realize why it might be an essential thing to have. Also, I really like Archer as a captain, his enthusiasm and excitement at the idea of exploration is really enjoyable to watch.
v based
STD is worse but STP shits on Trek more
Yeah, I hate this modern trend of avoiding adventure of the week stories for overarching season plots. It works for some shows like the Sopranos and the Wire, but it certainly doesn't work for Trek. Give me my 25 episode seasons made on shoe-string budgets with models, silly makeup, and fantastic writing, you can keep your fancy graphics and vomit-inducing camerawork.
The City on the Edge of Forever would never be made today. nuTrek is fucking shit trying to follow this serial trash.
This guy gets it.
STD but Picard is pretty fucking bad as well.
what does that even mean
What and why
Aka ruin a old fan character
Picard is way worse because it not only shits the continuity and the characters, but makes us stop liking the original actors as well. I cant look the same way to Stewart and even Frakes anymore after all theyve done to the series.
STD. Picard at the very LEAST has Riker making a pizza and chilling with his comfy family for 20 minutes.
Ruin
Picard was orders of magnitude worse than STD
I read that so anyone dont have to. Summarizing, the autor loved what they did to Luke and hoped that they would do the same to Picard. At least he got what he wanted.
They gonna steal Dark Souls concept of choosing between the age of fire or the age of dark.
That made a bit more sense since his home world got destroyed
Picard, because it shat on more lore.
They're both 0/10 irredeemable trash
They lost.
Picard is fucking kino desu
>Jolene Blackcock