>During an Instagram Live, Hellboy was one of the topics Harbour touched upon. This time, Harbour explained he believes Hellboy failed because fans cherished del Toro's films so much, and therefore rejected the reboot before it even got off the ground. Harbour's disappointment with the entire situation was very clear, though he did make sure to mention that it's "people's right" to feel differently about things. His entire comments are as follows:
>I think it failed before we began shooting because I think that people didn’t want us to make the movie and for some reason there was like a big… Guillermo del Toro and Ron Perlman created this iconic thing that we thought could be reinvented and then they certainly - the loudness of the internet was like, “We do not want you to touch this.” And then we made a movie that I think is fun and I think had its problems but was a fun movie and then people were just very very against it and that’s people’s right but I learned my lesson in a lot of different way.
I mean he’s not wrong, I’m one of those fans of the original and that’s one of the reasons why I didn’t see it. More than that though it just didn’t excite me; I don’t want a reboot when the first two movies did a great job introducing characters and building a world that grew familiar. There was no reason for this movie to be made other than the fact its producers saw an IP that hadn’t been touched in a decade and thought “hey, let’s get that guy from Stranger Things and paint him red!” Calling it a cash grab is a little harsh, because I know some people involved genuinely appreciate the Hellboy lore, but it is what it is.
Justin Morgan
Deltoro's shit. But the reboot was a bigger shit
Colton King
>our product failed because people who didn't want it continued not to want it What a sad story.
Lucas White
lol no
the movie tried to rush though ten years of plots at once. like the wild hunt could've been its own badass movie but here it was a five minute skit set to awful rock music
Evan Lewis
>the original The original was a comic
Tyler Ortiz
>joke >scene change >joke >things should be serious now >but also joke >scene change
Repeat ad infinitum
Gavin Russell
>No one wanted this >We made it anyways
Why didn't people see it?
Jason Mitchell
do you not understand what context is, retard?
Oliver Turner
>we wanted to reinvent the thing.
Did that happen? How was NuHellboy specifically different from the old Hellboy? besides adding curse words and race-swapping the irish redhead for another mulatto? Genuine question, here.
Gabriel Lopez
Do you understand that Del Toro's fanfiction didn't introduce shit, retard?
Isaac Myers
The problem with all of these Hellboy adaptations is they're not funny enough. Basically every third line of dialogue needs to be a quip for it to work, just like the source material.
David Morgan
No idea they released a new one. I dont think I've seen both of the old ones either.
William Taylor
nothing to do with what i posted about no one cares about the comic nerd deal with it
Carter Rivera
Will Hollywood stop the constant reboots and remakes? Will they realize no one wants SJW "woke"ness? Why is it run by out-of-touch retards?
Adrian Cooper
Reminder these cunts who made comic-inaccurate shit that became default for a lot of normies.
Nolan Del Taco Raimi Favreau James Gunn
These cunts are the reason that comic accurate directors like Zack Snyder and other MCU directors are maligned.
Cooper Wilson
I'm glad this balding faggot got denied his time in the sun as a big action star, hopefully it happens to every actor on stranger things, GOT and any other shitty TV shows.
Isaiah Hernandez
>Think he means literally "introduce". Damn, what's autism like?
James Thompson
fpbp. I have high tolerance for camp with this genre and I really went in with an open mind but it was garbage. Simple as.
Noah Davis
if they wanted to do a Hellboy movie, but different, why not make the movie visually distinctive? try to capture Mingola's art style, but in live action. I would have gone to see their reboot if they had at least made that effort.
>hur dur, but that's like Sin City whatever, make it look like Sin City, then.
he's pretty spot on, honestly. the entire vibe surrounding the reboot was basically nobody asked for it and you're never going to top del Toro's iconic aesthetic, so why the fuck are you doing this?
Jace Scott
this, better directors are the reason snyder is frowned upon
Adrian Adams
>accuracy is all that matters
Retcons are comics accurate. New authors changing things is comics accurate. Complete overhauls when changing companies is comics accurate.
Asher Myers
hollywood exists in the california liberal bubble. they legit have no finger on the pulse of the rest of the nation.
Jason Ortiz
Yeah who fucking cares about decades of inbuilt mythology, characterization and themes in comics that shit on these movies.
Jason Adams
exactly
Camden Wilson
That guy probably doesn't actually read comics, though who really does anymore.
Jack Smith
who cares if hellboy is a black trangender queer angelkin it's just fiction lmao
Jeremiah Young
I did watch the new Hellboy. It's on Prime. I did not feel it resembled Del Toro's or Mignola's vision. The gore felt voyeuristic and the constant swearing gratuitous. Part of Hellboy's charm in both former interpretations was that he's this literal demon taking down unknowable terrors from beyond the veil and he has a filter on swearing, never going beyond CRAP.
where does any of that correspond with "good film"
Henry Allen
I saw it in the cinema unfortunately. It was a complete pile of dogshit.
Luis Rodriguez
Not only did (((you))) NOT listen, (((you))) went ahead and turned the whole thing into capeshit. As if distaste for that garbage wasn't big enough, the first trailer dropped and it sealed the deal in such a poetic manner it wasn't even funny. Eat shit.
wow its almost like reboots are a bad fucking idea
Brody Peterson
I'm starting to believe they don't even watch the cartoons anymore.
Noah Ramirez
Hellboy isn't woke, it just isn't good either. I knew the production was doomed from the start because it was filmed where I live, and nothing of value has ever been filmed here aside from some parts of The Passion of the Christ.
Luis Lopez
where does any of that not correspond with "good film"?
Jordan Sanchez
The gore and some of the creature designs were cool, but it was straight to video tier in every other regard. Del Toro's at least had soul.
Adam Collins
Man, this could be an argument in some cult movie like charlie and the chocolate factory. In this obscure piece of shit no.
Aiden Wilson
>if they wanted to do a Hellboy movie, but different, why not make the movie visually distinctive? Because Amazing Screw-On Head was hella expensive to make.
>These cunts are the reason that comic accurate directors like Zack Snyder The fuck are you even talking about? Copying some framing every now and then doesn't make something comic accurate. Even 300, his closest comic adaptation, had a bunch of shit added
Jordan Cooper
Like clothing. And listening to what women think.
Zachary Butler
Yeah, yeah, thing is, you could tell that was going to be the reaction. You could tell and you still did it. Arrogant.
Easton Torres
>passion of the Christ >value How can someone have taste this shit
Logan Morales
"Let's add a strong women in politics rape revenge subplot" "Yas, so accurate, really nails the themes of the book"
Isaac White
I was talking about le taco man but ok
William Howard
blame mike mignola. gdt wanted to make hellboy 3 and had a meeting with mm and rp, but mm got his feelings hurt by how gdt was promoting it on twitter and said no. that's the whole story. that's who you blame.
Kevin Murphy
maybe he should stop calling 50% of the country nazis and racist that need to be executed on the street
Nicholas Young
>del Toro makes Pacific Rim and it's loved >Boyega tried to make his own version and it failed >del Toro makes Hellboy and it's loved >Neil Marshall tried to make his own version and it failed >del Toro set to make a unique take on The Hobbit that would've been loved >New Line alienated him and crawled back to Peter Jackson, who made a glib facsimile of LOTR that failed Is Guillermo the golden goose?
Wyatt Jones
neither of the del toro movies you listed are good
Blake Ortiz
Zack Snyder is the only director to elevate CBMs to art. Helped them reach the potential that comicbooks provided them. You should be grateful.
Samuel Mitchell
Oh lay an egg.
Cooper Barnes
>I have shit taste and I must post
Ayden Hernandez
>comics accurate >let's kill pa Kent for some reason
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Nathan Peterson
yeah but that fishfucking movie
Angel Ramirez
Geoff Johns killed Pa, absolute casual
Gavin Wilson
the very beginning of the movie they start explaining about that f****** witch I looked at my wife and I said hell boy doesn't know anything about this so we're going to hear this entire story again. freshman and college-level writing skills in that movie.
Gabriel Collins
YO LIL DAVIE
Jackson Bell
Oh, so new people can change things? Thanks. I'll take your concession.
Parker Barnes
I have no idea what you're talking about, schizo. Pa Kent being dead is comic accurate.
Samuel Garcia
Superman being able to fly is a retcon, schizo
Caleb Campbell
I don't think you know what retroactive continuity means. It means to change something from the past, not to do develop things towards the future.
Austin Long
I'm not even a fan, but serves him right
Cameron Campbell
FACT
Both of the adaptations are SHIT. Neither of them gets the comic in the slightest, say what you want about them as stand alone franchises but as adaptations they are awful and as a huge Hellboy fan I was crushed when I saw them. They literally don’t get a single thing right especially the Del Toro ones
Benjamin Richardson
mate, a black n white Helboy movie with Hellboy as the only thing with color would be kino