Can anyone give me a legitimate reason that this movie failed?

Can anyone give me a legitimate reason that this movie failed?

It made 33.5 million on a budget of over 60 million.
It has an ensemble cast, the acting isn't horrible, the set design is great the costumes and such are all pretty well done. Some jokes miss the mark sure but the writing isn't a horrorshow for the most part. It was very fresh at the time before an era of capeshit.

60% RT critics.
57% RT users
6.1 IMDB.
Which seems really stupidly low to be honest.

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They didn't know enough about the superhero genre at the time to get it. If that was released now, a lot of people would really get it and it'd be way better than most superhero films in the last ten years

10-13 year old boys are not a large enough demographic to make a movie successful.

Im guessing it came off as nerdy in a time of baggy clothes, gangster rap, limp bizkit, hot “teens” in movies, and stone cold steve austin. If it came out after xmen, maybe it wouldve done better. Perhaps it needed some young adult movie stars who were hot at the time idk. Maybe jennifer love hewitt or freddy prinze jr

Its a fun movie, but its also really fucking weird.

The protags, the villains, the city itself. I cant really explain it, something about it just seems off.

I remember it looking very bizarre and I assumed it was shit until I watched it at a buddy's house.

Lucille, God gave me a gift. I shovel well. I shovel very well....

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This is/was an amazing movie.

It came out at a time where capeshit movies had descended into the Joel Schumacher stuff that was basically a parody of itself. It would have done better if it came out just a couple years later after X-Men and Spider-Man popularized the genre again.

Really? I always felt it had sort of a pseudo-Tim Burton surrealist vibe going on which made it all seem kinda normal in its own universe.

Then again.. Casanova Frankenstein

Unironically the greatest capekino ever made

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Ben Stiller wasn't a leading man yet, MM came out in 1999. Meet the parents was in 2000 and Zoolander in 2001 which were big hits, if MM came out late in 2001 or 2002 it probably would've been a hit.

The jokes are funnier on paper. Quote the movie and it will be funny, but the execution didnt really hit on screen. The jokes didnt translate well

>Lance Hunt isn't Captain America, Lance Hunt wears glasses!

its definitely up there and endlessly quotable

"Dont start that again. Lance Hunt wears glasses, Captain Amazing DOESN'T wear glasses.

He takes them off when he, you know, transforms..

Thats ridiculous, how could he see?!"

>Lance Hunt takes off the glasses when he transforms into captain amazing
>That makes no sense. He wouldnt be able to see

Can we bring the brewskis?

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could've done without fart boy

Paul Reubens is a national treasure

>Yes, you may bring ze brewskis Michael Bay

A favorite of mine because of just how serious they are when discussing it.

Bowler: That's right. The police said it was an accident. He'd come home late one night and fell down an elevator shaft. Onto some bullets.
Blue Raja: You know, I've always suspected a bit of foul play.
Bowler: As have I.

Zoolander actually flopped when it came out because it released right after 9/11. Pretty much only became a classic from home video and tv stations playing it in the years after.

A movie about capeshit before capeshit took off. Plus, no real powers.

>Am I to understand you've inserted your father's skull inside of that ball for bowling?
>No, the guy at the pro shop did it.

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No real powers?
The bowler had a flying sentient bowling ball.
Sphinx stripped guns apart with his mind.
Furious got.. furious and kicked Casanovas ass.
The Shoveler is basically Batman
Spleen knocked people out with sniper farts.
Invisible Boy did turn invisible.
Nobody throws forks like Blue Raja, that's a superpower.

You're off your gourd son

>Yo what's up Tiger lily?
That line always gets me for some reason. It really isn't the same without the delivery though.

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And I can subluxate my shoulder, have I got superpowers?

No lets discus was Tim Burton the real director

It was TOO loosely based on the Flaming Carrot series it was based on.
The Spleen was an actual giant spleen, not some dude who farts.
Garbage Pail Kids movie is the better anti-super hero flick that actually stuck to it's characters and theme.
Should have hired less big money talent and spent the cash on writers and effects.

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With the budget and effects of the time they were not sure they could pull of a guy with a flaming carrot for a head or if people would relate to it

It was ahead of its time.

sort of FC's main point but I can understand how he would be too much for normies to rap their head around for a single movie.
And Ben Stiller always has to be a massive attention whore so has to suck up most of the limelight.
Amazon has the Boys and The Tick, Netflix has Doom Patrol.
Maybe Disney.

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Honestly though, I don't think Flaming Carrot fans were a large enough demographic to make much of a difference.

It is a tad frakukated, yes.

>no real powers
That little sucker just saved your life

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it's a very dry comedy. People just kind of didn't get it. Artie Lang shits on it, that's how you know its good.

Great movie. I have no idea why it failed. It's the subject of the music video for all-star.

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You're 100% correct, but do you know if you never try?
Hellboy, The Crow, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, even Faust got a movie!

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>Can anyone give me a legitimate reason that this movie failed
It's bad.

>and it'd be way better than most superhero films in the last ten years
Nah. Y'all are only claiming to like it because it's forgotten and has a touch of nostalgia. If it suddenly surged in popularity you'd call it reddit

He said a legitimate reason, not a made-up one

Any opinion of the movie is made up. It failed because it's bad. You're only talking about it because it's unpopular. See

>>Yes, the police said he fell down an elevator shaft. Onto some bullets

I second anons statement that it is bad.

Dunno but I love it, seen it like 20 times

so many quotes
>JUNK IT
>Your temper is very quick, my friend. But until you learn to master your rage
>your rage will become your master? That's what you were going to say, right? Right?
>Not necessarily
>Death Man is dead.
>The point is, your boy's a limey fork-flinger, Mother. Hard cheese to swallow, I know, but there 'tis
>Good evening, gentlemen. We weren't expecting to see you again so... spoon
>Do yourself a favor and don't punch my clock, 'cos I'm a Pantera's box you do not wanna open
>It is 'Pandora'
>Uh, please don't correct me, it sickens me
>I guess tonight the lone wolf hunts... alone
>Seeing as it is your first night I shall FORKgive you if you FORKget

was William H Macy just giving birth to his bratty shithead daughter when this came out

I'm not sure that the success of The Crow was due to fans of the comic.

And did people even know The Mask or Men in Black were comics going in?

>Phoenix... Dark...Dirk. I was Christened Dirk Steel, but I changed it to Phoenix.

why did you post a reddit meetup

>Can anyone give me a legitimate reason that this movie failed?
It was released two days after the Iron Giant and the same day as the Sixth Sense.

>Nobody throws forks like Blue Raja, that's a superpower.

Yeah, he’s like non-lethal gay(er) Bullseye.

I have the full run of the OG Mask.
Scared to check if it's worth anything.
Still 100% funnier than any of it's movies but I love Jim Carrey just for his takes on everything.

>So do we go and kick some Casanova butt? Or do I eat this sandwich?
>I say what the fork!

if this movie was after the superhero craze (at least after iron man) and the marketing was entirely restructured i honestly believe it could have made a profit. i actually like the charm of this movie desu
just watch the all star music video if you want a look at it

>You dress in the manner of a male prostitute!

nah, you're just a quack wannabe MD.

And there was truck from GTA2

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>1999
>superhero anything
>satire of superhero anything

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>no one
>no one at all
>this faggot
*redditposts*

the trailers and smash mouth video made it look like an adam sandler type of movie. marketing made it look goofy
people saw it and got a weird freaky dry humor cynical movie of regular losers wanting to be heroes


plus behind the scenes there was huge drama and ben stiller argued with everybody. a lot of fights over the tone of the movie

no famous actors, none of the cast was A list celebrity. normies thought it was weird