Can anyone give me a legitimate reason that this movie failed?
It made 33.5 million on a budget of over 60 million. It has an ensemble cast, the acting isn't horrible, the set design is great the costumes and such are all pretty well done. Some jokes miss the mark sure but the writing isn't a horrorshow for the most part. It was very fresh at the time before an era of capeshit.
60% RT critics. 57% RT users 6.1 IMDB. Which seems really stupidly low to be honest.
They didn't know enough about the superhero genre at the time to get it. If that was released now, a lot of people would really get it and it'd be way better than most superhero films in the last ten years
Dominic Nelson
10-13 year old boys are not a large enough demographic to make a movie successful.
Brayden Diaz
Im guessing it came off as nerdy in a time of baggy clothes, gangster rap, limp bizkit, hot “teens” in movies, and stone cold steve austin. If it came out after xmen, maybe it wouldve done better. Perhaps it needed some young adult movie stars who were hot at the time idk. Maybe jennifer love hewitt or freddy prinze jr
Cameron Peterson
Its a fun movie, but its also really fucking weird.
The protags, the villains, the city itself. I cant really explain it, something about it just seems off.
Samuel Cruz
I remember it looking very bizarre and I assumed it was shit until I watched it at a buddy's house.
Leo Harris
Lucille, God gave me a gift. I shovel well. I shovel very well....
It came out at a time where capeshit movies had descended into the Joel Schumacher stuff that was basically a parody of itself. It would have done better if it came out just a couple years later after X-Men and Spider-Man popularized the genre again.
Luis Watson
Really? I always felt it had sort of a pseudo-Tim Burton surrealist vibe going on which made it all seem kinda normal in its own universe.
Ben Stiller wasn't a leading man yet, MM came out in 1999. Meet the parents was in 2000 and Zoolander in 2001 which were big hits, if MM came out late in 2001 or 2002 it probably would've been a hit.
Matthew Wilson
The jokes are funnier on paper. Quote the movie and it will be funny, but the execution didnt really hit on screen. The jokes didnt translate well
A favorite of mine because of just how serious they are when discussing it.
Bowler: That's right. The police said it was an accident. He'd come home late one night and fell down an elevator shaft. Onto some bullets. Blue Raja: You know, I've always suspected a bit of foul play. Bowler: As have I.
Benjamin Fisher
Zoolander actually flopped when it came out because it released right after 9/11. Pretty much only became a classic from home video and tv stations playing it in the years after.
Noah Jackson
A movie about capeshit before capeshit took off. Plus, no real powers.
Owen Mitchell
>Am I to understand you've inserted your father's skull inside of that ball for bowling? >No, the guy at the pro shop did it.
No real powers? The bowler had a flying sentient bowling ball. Sphinx stripped guns apart with his mind. Furious got.. furious and kicked Casanovas ass. The Shoveler is basically Batman Spleen knocked people out with sniper farts. Invisible Boy did turn invisible. Nobody throws forks like Blue Raja, that's a superpower.
You're off your gourd son
Andrew Diaz
>Yo what's up Tiger lily? That line always gets me for some reason. It really isn't the same without the delivery though.
And I can subluxate my shoulder, have I got superpowers?
Alexander Roberts
No lets discus was Tim Burton the real director
Isaiah Howard
It was TOO loosely based on the Flaming Carrot series it was based on. The Spleen was an actual giant spleen, not some dude who farts. Garbage Pail Kids movie is the better anti-super hero flick that actually stuck to it's characters and theme. Should have hired less big money talent and spent the cash on writers and effects.
With the budget and effects of the time they were not sure they could pull of a guy with a flaming carrot for a head or if people would relate to it
Daniel Wilson
It was ahead of its time.
Ian Ramirez
sort of FC's main point but I can understand how he would be too much for normies to rap their head around for a single movie. And Ben Stiller always has to be a massive attention whore so has to suck up most of the limelight. Amazon has the Boys and The Tick, Netflix has Doom Patrol. Maybe Disney.
>Can anyone give me a legitimate reason that this movie failed It's bad.
Jaxon Carter
>and it'd be way better than most superhero films in the last ten years Nah. Y'all are only claiming to like it because it's forgotten and has a touch of nostalgia. If it suddenly surged in popularity you'd call it reddit
Austin Young
He said a legitimate reason, not a made-up one
Joshua Ortiz
Any opinion of the movie is made up. It failed because it's bad. You're only talking about it because it's unpopular. See
Nathaniel Ramirez
>>Yes, the police said he fell down an elevator shaft. Onto some bullets
Jackson Jenkins
I second anons statement that it is bad.
Adrian Lewis
Dunno but I love it, seen it like 20 times
so many quotes >JUNK IT >Your temper is very quick, my friend. But until you learn to master your rage >your rage will become your master? That's what you were going to say, right? Right? >Not necessarily >Death Man is dead. >The point is, your boy's a limey fork-flinger, Mother. Hard cheese to swallow, I know, but there 'tis >Good evening, gentlemen. We weren't expecting to see you again so... spoon >Do yourself a favor and don't punch my clock, 'cos I'm a Pantera's box you do not wanna open >It is 'Pandora' >Uh, please don't correct me, it sickens me >I guess tonight the lone wolf hunts... alone >Seeing as it is your first night I shall FORKgive you if you FORKget
Hunter Allen
was William H Macy just giving birth to his bratty shithead daughter when this came out
Anthony Ward
I'm not sure that the success of The Crow was due to fans of the comic.
Gavin Carter
And did people even know The Mask or Men in Black were comics going in?
Carson Baker
>Phoenix... Dark...Dirk. I was Christened Dirk Steel, but I changed it to Phoenix.
Levi Young
why did you post a reddit meetup
Aiden Peterson
>Can anyone give me a legitimate reason that this movie failed? It was released two days after the Iron Giant and the same day as the Sixth Sense.
Andrew Jenkins
>Nobody throws forks like Blue Raja, that's a superpower.
Yeah, he’s like non-lethal gay(er) Bullseye.
Carson Perez
I have the full run of the OG Mask. Scared to check if it's worth anything. Still 100% funnier than any of it's movies but I love Jim Carrey just for his takes on everything.
Leo Anderson
>So do we go and kick some Casanova butt? Or do I eat this sandwich? >I say what the fork!
Gabriel Brown
if this movie was after the superhero craze (at least after iron man) and the marketing was entirely restructured i honestly believe it could have made a profit. i actually like the charm of this movie desu just watch the all star music video if you want a look at it
the trailers and smash mouth video made it look like an adam sandler type of movie. marketing made it look goofy people saw it and got a weird freaky dry humor cynical movie of regular losers wanting to be heroes
plus behind the scenes there was huge drama and ben stiller argued with everybody. a lot of fights over the tone of the movie
Austin Myers
no famous actors, none of the cast was A list celebrity. normies thought it was weird