Explain why this is a bad character without buzzwords or sounding like an angry incel

She risks her life for a cause she has no apparent reason to be invested in other than her current life sucks, though her current situation is far removed from the First Order/sith drama anyways so its not even relevant.

Does not have proper motivation. Becomes in love/attached to people she has known for hours.

She assumed the black man was a thief

Doesn't feel real, no character progression, just suddenly has skills as story demands, boring.

It's not her per se, it's JJ Abrams fault for a number of reasons, have you watched any of his productions, if you did, you know why she's a bad character.

Simply being the best in the world at everything ever is not even a character.

She's a Mary Sue. I don't give a shit about what you think a buzzword means.

>without buzzwords
>immediately follows up with buzzword
Braindead retard

It is honestly an amazing feat that such a big black hole of a character was created. I don't think anyone else in fiction can compare to how much of a soulless void Rey is.

She has no character.

The true comedy is that all 6 movies before were simply to build up that soulless terrible character.

The plot just kinda happens around her, she kinda has no agency in it stuff just happens and she reacts until she wins.

She wasn't a nudist

No, I am watching Korean and Spanish cinema, not this dreck.

The biggest issue is her lack of motivation. You can have characters that are subdued and have little personality if they have a proper goal. Neo is a good example of this.

She’s an incel.

Explain why you're not a fucking mong

She possesses zero flaws and remains unbroken through every single challenge thrown her way.

That's a poor character for any setting.

I hate the word Mary Sue, but she is straight up one. She has no motivation, she has a boring personality, she is automatically good at everything and the entire story revolves around her. All the characters swoon over her. She's just 'there' and the movie insists that we give a shit about her.

For bonus angry incel comment; the moment finn grabbed her hand and she screams "LET GO OF ME" just came off as a being written by a self indulgent feminist.

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She has no personal stakes. The only personal stakes she might have had was finding out who her parents were but then Rian shit on that, so by the time she finds out shes a palpatine it doesnt matter, shes already gotten over it. As a result you just have someone who aimlessly moves from A to B.

Perfect explanation by Trey Parker right here:
youtu.be/vGUNqq3jVLg

>if you ever come to a moment [between story beats] where you have to write ‘and then’ youre fucked. A good story uses ‘therefore’ or ‘but’

Rise of skywalker especially is guilty of a lot of having a lot of ‘and then’ macguffins plot points. Its like a 3 year old trying to tell a story.

Confused motivations, at no point to we get a clear sense of why she's doing anything.

Explain why she had the right to kick Finn out of the spotlight without sounding like an angry racist

Explain to me why this...

):<

Makes a female character good, because that is her entire character.

He was never in the spotlight.

>anakins character arc
>young kid put into a situation he wasn't emotionally prepared for and manipulated into doing evil because he couldn't cope with his losses in life
>lukes character arc
>young boy goes from simple farmer to the last hope of the galaxy and slowly grows over the course of his journey thanks to the help of his friends and the losses he suffers
>reys character arc
>scavenger just ends up in the middle of this large conflict she has no stakes in and just kinda goes with the flow while her nemesis/love interest drives the plot

She doesn't do pic related

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Anakin's character arc wasn't good until it was part of luke's story.

>without buzzwords or sounding like an angry incel.
Why did you make this thread?

They made him hold a lightsaber on the poster of TFA just to setup a shitty subverting twist moment for Marey Sue.

True. It always was about Rey when you got down to it. And Kylo, but any other character had no chance

Na, not really you just got excited about the nigger for some reason.

unnecessary. they should have made the new series of films focused on below decks characters.

I don't remember her

That literally makes no sense.

He was because as a defector of the first order he had clear motivations. He also is the character who refuses the call to adventure at maz kanatas cantina. When rey beats kylo at the end of the film its confusing because it was clearly his story. Rey actually has no arch in the force awakens, they should have just cut her out

I love how pussy op ran away.

Nah, he clearly held the lightsaber on the poster, also it's funny that the nigger has a better career than your ugly flatchested bitch crush Daisy lol

A rule in screen writing is show, don't tell
The only adversity she ever faced happened off screen
You can't relate to a character who can do everything and bypass any obstacle

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I think it would have been a lot better if the jedi were eager to have him and sort of stole him from his mother, but she lets him go to have a better life. Then when she dies he would say “I wasnt there to protect her!!” And he starts hating the jedi.

>Nah, he clearly held the lightsaber on the poster,

You only made up the notion that means anything.

Just compare her to other main SW characters. Is she as memorable and notorious as fan favorites like Luke, Anakin, Obi-Wan, Leia, Darth Vader, Palpatine, Yoda or Han Solo? Because if you think that she is then remember that the main selling point of episode 9 RoS was the return of Palpatine, not the conclusion of the Rey saga. Nobody really cares about the story of Rey the Plot Device and her token friends. Rogue One had more story in one movie than the entire sequel trilogy combined.

He was literally who we started the film with, we see him refuse to gun down the civilians and defect from the first order, it was literally his film up until Rey shows up and steals the story.

It doesnt matter who held the lightsaber on the poster, but in the film he most closely resembles the hero with a thousand faces

why is she leia's best friend after meeting once? why does chewie become her chauffeur after han dies? how did she become the "best fighter" in the resistance?

Kek I love how you can't argue against the fact that Daisy is a shitty actress with a dead career

She's introduced as a character who is inexplicably adept at everything she does and somehow succeeds in her first attempt at things. She's immediately liked by everyone after their first encounter, and even the villains don't hate her. She is never once shown to fail at anything, and the scenes that would have helped depict her as such was deleted from the final cut (one of Luke's lessons in TLJ) or outright edited to prevent her from losing (the red guard scene). If Rey was male, he would have been panned as a power fantasy character. But in the age of female empowerment all these perfect qualities are overlooked.

It's the same with Kylo, there is a clear character with him and motivations for his actions and he actually grows over the first few films in the trilogy(one of the few things rian did right that JJ undid).

This

Yeah totally

That is obvious and evident, that does not change the fact you are trying to assign greater value to that nigger.

Well he does have a greater value since hes a more successful actor than a white woman lol

Your waifu stole Finn's chance to do anything of value. After that he had nothing aside from some pathetic attempts at supporting the main character and vain attempts to sacrifice himself to at least say he did something. Imagine that, if he killed himself he would have had more value if he died because then Rey would have thought about him for a few seconds.

The lack of meaningful character development or adversity is fucking boring to watch.

There's no depth or conflict to her character. We're supposed to believe that a girl that has literally never left her home planet knew more about flying the Millenium Falcon than its literal owner who's flown it for decades.

I don't mind that she has infinity potential, especially given what we know now about her origin, but again, there was zero conflict. At least we saw Anakin slaughter the Tuskens after losing his mom and then throw a 5-year old tier tantrum. Rey had none of that.

Not caring about the nigger does not mean I support the cunt.

She’s written like Harry Potter. Which is to say that she’s written with no character whatsoever and things just happen to her.