>That's for Frodo
>That's for the shire
>AND THAT'S FOR MY OLD GAFFER (LOL)
Whilst everyone is busy sucking off Peter Jackson and only taking breaks to bash the legolas wanking fight scenes, why does this shit get overlooked? You're telling me that Sam managed to solo a group of orcs when
>he's a damn midget
>has little to no combat experience
>physically weaker on all levels
>outnumbered
>on the lower part of the stairs
>has to fight whilst climbing up the stairs
>while fucking dual wielding
>using swords against ARMORED enemies
>without any armor
And of course the scene wouldn't be complete without le epic music and le epic quip. Realistically, Sam would have died here. He should have snuck around like in the books, but Jackson just needed another fight scene in his "masterpiece trilogy". What a hack.
That's for Frodo
OP has obviously never fought a midget with a cause
He had a stout heart.
you're right, meat should have been back in the menu right then and there
Hobbits leveled up offscreen
The part that isn't clear, I think in either the Theatrical release AND the extended release is that in that tower, Orcs and Urukhai had just have a miniature civil war and killed each other. The ones that were left were haggard and worn out from the battle.
Orcs were the weird-looking, gaunt little bat-like monster-men. Uruks were the 9-foot-tall Maori actors. Though the Orcs greatly outnumbered the Uruks, they took heavy losses killing them all. So even though Sam was alone, he was fighting a disorganized, worn-out enemy who never saw him coming because Hobbits are naturally stealthy.
this
The One Ring and Sting buffed his stats
I don't know OP, Tolkien did write about Sam's attack on Shelob
>Sam did not wait to wonder what was to be done [...] He sprang forward with a yell, and seized his master's sword in his left hand. Then he charged. No onslaught more fierce was ever seen in the savage world of beasts, where some desperate small creaturearmed with little teeth, elone, will spring upon a tower of horn and hide that stands bove its fallen mate."
So I'm sure 3 orcs would be no problem for an enraged Samwise.
Lmao he looks like that jew caricature
>he was fighting a disorganized, worn-out enemy
because Sam, who has been on the road for years now, just got done fighting a giant spider and was in hot pursuit of Frodo is in tip top shape right? can't also forget that heavy ass backpack half his size he always lugs around
>who never saw him coming because Hobbits are naturally stealthy.
he literaly announces his presence by growling like a retard for the whole big shadow tiny hobbit "endearing" shot. that's the opposite of stealth
He has the ring of power on his person which boosts his power.
Reminder that based uberchad Samwise had the orcs thinking he was some sort of first age elf warrior come back to fuck their shit up
so we bringing up old pasta again?
I'm talking about the movies here, not the books
in the movies aside from getting lucky with shelob sam had little to no combat feats and he rambo'd his way through cirith ungol instead of sneaking around, the one thing hobbits are good at
He didn’t have the ring equipped
>dex vs str
The LOTR movies has a lot of stupid pulpy moments(like two thirds of all scenes involving Merry ,Pippin, Gimli, or Legolas) because Jackson is a pulpy director who barely understand what makes the source material interesting. However, it also has a huge amount of amazing scenes, many who are ripped straight from the book, dialog and all, so you instantly forget about all the shitty Jackson inserts.
Not really, he stood up to Aragorn at the Prancy Pony, Ran at the Nazgul on Weathertop, slayed goblins in Moria, wrestled a crazed Gollum at Emin Myuil. He was by far the most fearsome hobbit portrayed in the movies.
But this is false. All the hobbits fought the orcs in Moria after being trained by Boromir. Did you even watch the movies?
Orcs aren't really that strong, they just rely on ridiculous numbers
Hey, dickhead, I specifically said that it was NOT clear in both cuts of the movie. Though I think the extended version gives it a little more context. Don't come at me with "I'm not talking about the books" if I also said it wasn't in the movie.
*Emyn Muil*
>you cannot possibly live long enough to ever experience something so amazing
My biggest gripe besides the dude ghosts lmao scene is how much he changed Gimlis character from the books from a noble knightly dwarf who impresses even elves with his manners and speech to a walking fart machine. And somewhat Aragorn being more coy about getting the throne but thats more acceptable to an extend
Sams sword was an Elven sword that had spells cast upon it that terrified Orcs.
pay attention next time.
Frodo and Legolas and Bard's son Bain are relentlessly handsome.
>"""""stood up to aragorn"""""
aragorn could've cut him to pieces if I felt like it
>Ran at the Nazgul
and got BTFO'd in seconds
>slayed goblins in Moria
*got carried hard by gandalf, gimli legolas, boromir and aragorn
>wrestled a crazed Gollum
Gollum beat his ass beforehand, and even then I'd rather take on a butt naked, unarmed Gollum rather than 4 fully armored orcs
faggots are not permitted in Middle Earth.
cast yourself into the fires
Why didn’t the elfs just cast the same spell on their swords in every battle?
Movielet detected. Read the books sometime.
mana doesnt just grow on trees ya know
I think the point of the scene was to show how loyalty and honor to ones promise can allow you to face great odds.
>thread about the movie
>Yas Forums-television and film
>READ THE BOOKS
Take it to /lit/
In the books Samwise was wearing the ring at this time.
>power of friendship
good to know that movie lotr is literally naruto-tier
Wouldn't be be invisible?
Because Sindar and the remaining elves of the third age with few exceptions are a bunch of semi iliterate redneck bumblefucks or pansies compared to the Noldor gigachads who forged the weapons Frodo and Gandalf used, and most of those have either died or left to Valinor
Elves in the Third Age were pussies who were running away from the Orc problem, they didnt fight anymore.
yes. He used it to sneak past the stone statues outside, there was some magic spell on them. Can't remember details.
First LOTR thread?
Have sex
>and thats for my Old Gaffer!
I never understood this line. Orcs never did anything to the Gaffer as they hadnt even been to the Shire yet. bookfags redpill me on this.
Its a battlecry user, it doesnt have to be 100% accurate as long as it gives you courage. Although "half orcs" and "ruffians" did fuck up the shire for a bit under Sarumans orders in the end of the third book and the hobbits of the fellowship had to organise the shire hobbits to fight them back
it's a marvel quip, it's meant to make the audience go HAHA regardless of whether they get it or whether it makes sense
>they hadnt even been to the Shire yet
Interestingly enough, at that time the Shire was completely overrun with Orcs. Sam had no way of knowing that though, it was just a quip.
thanks. here have some art as payment.
>watching ROTK
>skip all denethor scenes
>skip all frodo, sam & gollum scenes
Feels good
>skip all battle scenes
the entire movie is just the epilogue
Didn't some elf went full sperg and solo'd the balrogs?
I've never seen any Lord of the rings movies, what order do I watch them in? Do I need to watch the Hobbits first?
Sam was an alpha chad though
He used the power of friendship to reach his limit break.
whats return of the king, then the two towers, then the fellowship.
>he never played the games BASED on the movies
Sam killed hundreds of orcs
Sam's got farmers' strength. He worked with soil a lot and that takes a lot of endurance and grit. It made perfect sense for him to be the most resilient and strongest hobbit, he may not have been as strong as the rest of the cast so his scenes were never odd.
Just go and try to dig a 2 feet hole in the ground on your own, see how you handle it with your twig arms, it takes a lot of effort, especially on dry field land like in the shire.
I have played rotk on the ps2 and that shit was fun as fuck
I don't remember sam throwing poison daggers in the books or movies though
The absolute autist Feanor managed to kill 12 Balrogs and a LOT of the forces of Morgoth on his own before getting backstabbed. Glorfindel and Gandalf also killed one each, and Ecthelion killed their boss although they died in the process.
Which kinda means tolkien didnt think that highly of the manlets if a single Balrog managed to wipe out the strongest dorf kingdom on his own
It was all off screen. The games are canon.
I enter these threads SPECIFICALLY to correct shit like this, Uruk is literally just the word for Orc in Black Speech. There were different types of Uruks yes, and they did get along as well as was portrayed in the movie, but they were all just orcs. Uruk-Hais are some weird human-orc hybrid Saruman cooked up on the spot and they are only in his service and they all die in the Two Towers so theyre not relevant either. The large orcs could ge Gundabad Orcs perhaps? But thats just guessing
There were a few elves who fought Balrogs during the first age. None of them came out of it alive. Twice the fight ended with both dead, which seens like the most you can hope for in a confrontation between a powerful Elf and a higher spirit. Fëanor though, the most powerful elf to have ever lived, managed to fight off seven for a short while before being inevitably crushed.
What? Watching the fucking fellowship, then two towers then return of the king you faggot. Don’t even waste your time
with the hobbit
Based Tolkien autists. I fear the amazon show is going to do a number on you guys. I hope you are braced for the inevitable we wuz Numenoreans
Not even gonna watch it, despite the inevitable spamming on this board like for the Witcher.
Fanfiction. Fëanor did not kill 12 Balrogs nor was he backstabbed. He was a fool and pushed deep into enemy territory with only a small force and was quickly overwhelmed before being defeated by Gothmog, lord of Balrogs.
In the third movie I think there's an Uruk-Hai in the tower scene
t.Morgoth