This is unironically one of the best science fiction movies I’ve ever seen

Not him, but my favorite is hands down "the Voyage Home"

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4>6>2>1>3>>>>

I like the built in trilogy of 2 3 4.

>hating Final Frontier
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>science fiction movies

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it's simply irredeemable

What did you dislike about it? Use your own words.

Final Frontier is completely forgettable. I'm not going to look anything up but I think it had something to do with Spock's evil brother? The only specific part I remember is the Yosemite National Park scene.

2>6>4>3>1>5.

5 is the only one I'd say is bad and even it has some interesting concepts and a few kino scenes.

1 is interesting but it tries too hard to be 2001 A Space Odyssey.

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>muh Wrath of Khan
It's completely inaccessible to general audiences. Who the fuck is Khan and why is he mad? The film barely addresses it.

I only ever use my own words

Frankly V is disappointing, we leave the interesting ideas behind once kirk and company reach the center of the galaxy where the climax of the film is landing on a planet and then immediately escaping it

The conman preying on emotional wounds got played by his own game. The message of secular humanism and brotherhood is incredibly strong. Sorry you never made any friends.

I'm new to Star Trek. I've watched all the original 6 movies and a few of the next generation ones and liked them.
Are the new Star Trek movies, the ones with Chris Pine, good?

Event Horizon is better.

Not him; but its disjointed and the plot never really goes anywhere.

Savik's ability to take away people's pain is an interesting concept but there had to be easier, legal ways for a man with his charisma to get his hands on a Starship than stealing the Enterprise. And the final confrontation with fake "god" is silly and out of left field. So you spend the first part of the film in conflict with a character who's not really a villain and who really doesn't have a good reason to be in conflict with the heroes. Then at the end you get a new villain out of nowhere and the heroes just blow him up without really knowing what the hell he is.

It does have its moments though. The Yosemite scenes are comfy, the scene where Savik gets in McCoys mind and replays the memory of his father's death is solid as is Kirk's speech to Savik about how he wants to keep his pain because it defines him as a person.

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bad meme, people who've never watched star trek understand it just fine.
he wasn't a conman, he was just a delusional zealot. he only wanted to help. once he found out that it was all a sham he self sacrificed. Sybok is one of the best antagonists in star trek

>Who the fuck is Khan and why is he mad?

Chekov tells you he's a genetically engineered criminal from the past Kirk unfroze. Khan himself tells you that he considers himself a superhuman and that he's angry at Kirk because he marooned him on Ceti Alpha 6 then never came back to check on them, a choice which resulted in half his people dying.

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It has editing flaws for sure but the story is brilliant and what is probably a 6 or 7/10 movie by itself is made a 10 by Goldsmith's score. It's one of my all time favorite films.

No.

Anton Yelchin and John Cho and Q's son and Wesley Crusher are relentlessly handsome.

It's stupid. Kirk didn't intentionally put him on a planet that would be dangerous, and by not telling Starfleet about him ensured his prosperity. Also the villain and hero just skype angrily at each other.

>catgirl spammer can't into Trek kino
big shocker there

Sybok, not Saavik.

it was secularly dull and listless

it was flatter than a pancake and not nearly as filling

2009 is acceptable

into darkness is pants on head

the third one was kind of interesting, but also forgettable

What film were you watching? Kirk leads an assualt on a desert stronghold, the high-speed shuttle docking, jailbreak, rocket boots. The film has more action than the previous three Star Trek films combined.

You don't get Khan obviously. Kirk beat him, he's supposed to be the ultimate man, genetically designed to rule and Kirk beat him. He can't let that stand, that's why he keeps going after Kirk and that's why Kirk baits him with the line about "laughing at his superior intellect".

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Oh yeah, Saavik was the Vulcan cutie.

the one where our heroes gallantly sing a round of row row row your boat for ten minutes

Again, sorry you don't have friends.

It's one of my favourite movies to fall asleep to.

with how fervently you wish to foist your opinions on me more likely you're the one with no friends

I did like the part where everybody got transported off except for Kirk, who is left alone on this planet with a powerful pissed off being hunting him down. Felt spooky when I was watching it as a kid.

I think this guy, Q, 0 and the great barrier at the edge of the galaxy need to be explored again carefully, since they're all omnipotent. And its never clear what the shadow organizations or other antagonistic civilizations think of the Q.

The truth is that all six OG Star Trek movies are great, including the unfairly maligned STV. An eclectic and idiosyncratic film series that simply could not exist in today's Hollywood.

'The Motion Picture' is simply one of the most beautiful sci-fi films ever made. It's a legitimate masterpiece.

>motion sickness shiter tries to call anything else boring

I watched this movie expecting to hate it but I ended up really fucking liking it. It's a legitimately great sci-fi movie.

2>6>1>3>4>5

I don't get the love for 4 at all though I didn't hate it by any means at all.

It's pretty good though it feels like it drags at times. Prefer II but I can really appreciate it. Though most of the TOS-era movies are better than the TNG-era movies we got.

>inaccessible to general audiences
Good, fuck them; last thing we need is even more normalfaggotry watering down Star Trek.

you aren't making any sense

are you just trying to get yous at this point? that's pathetic to be honest with you

Not getting back Kirstie Alley to play her in 3 was a mistake though I didn't hate the other woman either.

Not replacing the Enterprise with the Excelsior was a mistake as well.

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it was just fine, I always liked the girl that replaced her, much better looking

Why do people rate 6 so high? I rate same as chronological order.

>simply could not exist in today's Hollywood.
This is very true. Modern sci-fi became so rooted in 'realism' that it lost all the imagination that sci-fi relies on. The craziness and imagination, and partly the color, are why I came to love the original Star Trek more than the others, including Next Generation.

it's got massive pacing issues but the incredible score redeems it.

>I don't get the love for 4
I can definitely understand that, but I really fucking love it because:
>batshit plot about Rama aliens wanting to talk to whales that Kirk and the gang have to go back in time to get
>the whole thing is a ridicilous comedy with the TOS crew
it doesn't take itself seriously at all, and it is just hilarious
>that scene where Spock comes swimming into frame while Kirk tries to keep their cover
gets me every time

>much better looking
Do you have working eyes, user?

Supreme taste

Unbased and bluepilled

They should have rechristened the NX-2000 as the NCC-1701-A when the class went into production.

>it doesn't take itself seriously at all, and it is just hilarious
Stealing radiation from the actual USS Enterprise, the entire hospital sequence, Kirk explaining he's from the 23rd century, transparent aluminum etc. Marvelous.

We have some real spastics on this board. What the fuck is there to 'get'. It's an incredibly enjoyable, wholesome film with heart.

>it doesn't take itself seriously at all, and it is just hilarious
I feel like I should like it more than I do because of that but it still didn't really wow me.

Sure.

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Bit of any interesting /k/ point, the carrier they used in place for the real USS Enterprise was another active carrier, USS Ranger. Ranger got the reputation as the 'Hollywood Flattop' because she appeared in so much media. She was also in The Six Million Dollar Man, Top Gun, and Flight of the Intruder.

because its real science fiction, and its carried by the storyline and ideas, not effects. and the director was a seasoned champ, robert wise, who i met as a child.