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Ryder Campbell
Nolan Hill
NORMAL PICARD BUT A SHIT SHOW
David Perry
>O'Brien was an Ensign in TNG: Encounter at Farpoint and a Lieutenant (jg) in Season 2 of TNG. By the start of Season 4 (in Family), they fully retconned the 24th century Starfleet to have enlisted crew and non-commissioned officers and O'Brien became a Chief Petty Officer. In DS9: Starship Down, O'Brien says to Worf about his staff: "They're not bridge officers, they haven't been to Starfleet Academy. They're engineers."
There's also the shit Picard says in S1 TNG that only "commissioned officers are allowed on the bridge."
Gabriel Wright
Have you ever heard of a field commission or similar temporary rank increase? It happens even in peacetime, particularly in critical need areas.
Angel Cooper
It's possible he got a temporary field commission on the Rutledge and rode it out at Utopia Planetia as part of the skeleton crew operating the Enterprise until the full crew joined at Farpoint, but its still a retcon.
Brody Ortiz
Even within the Federation there are still things that aren't limitless. Dilithium and Gold pressed Latinum come to mind.
I like to think of the Federation as post-scarcity only in the basic needs department. Everyone has access to as much food as they want, water, clothing, reasonable housing, and probably even a certain amount of power. Plus access to things like computers, libraries, learning academies and technical school, etc. But there are still things that have intrinsic value like real antiques, rare minerals and elements, things that can't be replicated or mass produced. I imagine hand-made stuff is hugely sought after in the Federation, like hand made furniture or artwork. Basically, commerce as we understand it, personal transactions using cash currency between two parties, is obsolete, but I'de be willing to bet trade and bartering is still well alive in the Federation.
Carson Fisher
It has never been stated in canon that you cannot replicate Dilithium or Gold Pressed Latinum.
Sebastian Long
Yes, it specifically has for dilithium. I forget what episode, but at some point in TNG the topic comes up and it's explained that dilithium is one of the few things too complicated to replicate. Latinum is in the same catagory, because if it wasn't then why the fuck would anyone care about it? Also, Voyager has to constantly trade and mine dilithium for the same reason. I forget the exact name but there was another alloy at one point that Voyager needed for ship repairs that couldn't be replicated.
Landon Ward
It may not be energy efficient to replicate them, but that's not the same thing as what you're saying.
Alexander Roberts
It's not a retcon. It's a reasonable explanation for unexplained canon facts.
Andrew Hall
Again, I forget the specific episode and i'm too tired to care that much, but there is a plot in TNG where they need dilithium for whatever reason and someone says, quite specifically, that it is completely impossible to replicate dilithium.
We know for a fact, in canon, that both dilithium and latinum have value. If they could be easily replicated, even if it wasn't energy efficient to do so, why in the fuck would anyone care about their value?
Dylan Nguyen
I just did a search of all mentions of dilithium in TNG and none of them indicated what you're saying. You may be confused by the plot point in Star Trek 4 where they use fission radiation to re-crystalize dilithium, which only strengthens my point.
Jacob Anderson
No one in Star Trek values GPL other than the Ferengi, who have a functioning religion surrounding it. It's possible Ferengi might have religious taboos surrounding replicating it. Also, any goods Quark trades in, from weapons to wine to self-sealing stem bolts, make no sense if replicators exist.
Ryder Garcia
Having rank pips be integrated with the insignia, rather than have them on the collar or sleeves, is the best and most logical design...
Xavier Rogers
...and one of the few things Discovery got right, although the Discovery pips need to be more prominent as they are too difficult to see/read at a glance.
Gavin Garcia
Kirk is a rapist, not Riker
Easton Watson
Kirk is actually a papist, but I can see where you got confused.
Henry Foster
I hate STD so much, but those uniforms are pure sex.
Henry Flores
Uniforms are shit.
They don't even look like fabric.
Jose Allen
I always wanted to know where the fabric for the DISCO costumes were dyed blue. Now I know. Switzerland, cool. I would've guessed China or Bangladesh. Very interesting.
Luke Price
I didn't even notice they were differentiated by gold, silver and bronze.
Logan Harris
Agreed, I don’t hate the STD uniforms
Josiah Smith
No, I am talking about enterprise uniforms, discovery uniforms are shit.
Logan Morgan
They're pretty nice, but I can't abide the complete lack of short skirts/dresses.
Hunter Thompson
Does STD have the ugliest uniforms and crew in Trek?
Justin Flores
Uniforms no.
Crew yes.
Levi Price
Those uniforms are literally based though. They are NASA-esque and added to the show's general air of realism.
Daniel King
> goods Quark trades in, from weapons to wine to self-sealing stem bolts
Why do you think Quark is poor as fuck? He's the only Ferengi dumb enough to try selling replicated stuff to Feddies. I mean his bar's only real selling point is the "experience" or the Dabo tables/holosuites. I highly doubt Quark actually makes anything off the drinks and food, that's just to get people in the door.
Connor Bennett
I want to pose tummy-to-tummy with Hoshi.
Nathaniel Ward
ENT has great uniforms though.
Look really cosy.
Xavier Perry
>Voyager
Xavier Hernandez
>Look really cosy.
Justin Gomez
just came to say FUCK Picard and FUCK STD
Xavier Phillips
Voyager didn't even have good gear for different weather.
Jack Lopez
So in the new picard episode, when they talk about the "treshold" of synthetic evolution, and that after you pass it, "something bad" comes, and they compare it to the vulcans
Do you presume that they mean it literally, as in, fucking reapers come to harvest you, or do is it just an extension of the vulkan parallel, and they just mean "synthetics get too smart and wipe out organics"?
Matthew Thomas
Lincoln Flores
Aiden Robinson
But he was a tactics officer at The Rutledge under Cap. Benjamin Maxwell
Colton Gray
She might look cosy but she bullied 7 mercilessly, even in real life.
Daniel Carter
.....annnnnnd we're back.
Logan Carter
Hear, hear.
And, if I may add: FUCK the custodial officer.
Alexander Flores
I really like the First Contact uniforms but always felt the limited amount of visible colour meant it'd sure be less obvious which division a given person was in, but then Discovery came along and made those uniforms look as effective as the TNG ones.
Given the dramatic moody lighting of the show it's practically impossible to notice there's any differences between them.
But then again that's also the case for the Wrath of Khan uniforms which are generally considered the best.
Christopher Lewis
just standard ambiguity to hide the lack of any real threshed-out world
it's a show funded by hollywood billionaires of course they think AI and eugenics is wrong, those two things are the only way the richfags could ever lose power
Isaiah Jackson
The costume designer is a dumb cunt, she wanted them to be gender neutral so they all have to wear those extra-slim and uncomfortable clothes.
Those uniforms aren't practical at all, the actors look like they can't breathe properly.
Kayden Watson
I cant bring myself to watch Voyager because the harpy voice of Janeway is unbearable
John Roberts
I don't care if it's forbidden or not and quarantine be damned: For me, it's still Irish Romulan Cougar Elf Detective
Aiden Allen
>under quarantine for the last week through April
>defeated Miraak and asserted myself as the true dragonborn
>civil war is resolved, all recognize my power
>already level 45 and smithing, enchanting, one-handed weapon, block, and heavy armor are at 100, not sure if going to start playing as a sneaky Archer
>just been guzzling invisibility potions and walking through caves to look around don't even bother taking things anymore
>gonna die from coronavirus playing skyrim
>never ruined my life by watching picard
hell yeah
Liam Thompson
The costume design really was the most redeeming part of that movie. It's maybe the only thing I have no real qualms with.
>2009
If the film was made just a few years later you have to wonder whether such MISOGYNIST uniforms would have even been possible.
Wyatt Murphy
>the costume design
>literal soviet-inspired dress uniforms
no thanks
Aaron Ortiz
>hating the jj movies because they were too exciting
Henry Richardson
I don't recall those uniforms, are they from the first movie?
Ayden Wood
Second movie during the funeral scene
Aiden Reed
apologize
Ryder Sanders
>literal soviet-inspired dress uniforms
Hell yes. Canonically, in Star Trek. Communism is good. It's the reason they live in a utopia.
David White
Ethno-nationalism won and everybody follows the white man into space, culminating in a post-scarcity society due to white men / capitalism's tendency to make things better over time. Cope.
Jordan Barnes
>Second movie
And was the second movie made in 2009?
Cameron Williams
I agree, he should apologise.
Isaac Gutierrez
The Dubsminion has endured for 2,000 /trek/ threads and will continue to endure long after Yas Forums has crumbled into dust.
Robert Harris
user posts in every thread, never gets dubs. Sad!
Logan Hall
If Star Trek was an ethno-nationalist, capitalist society. There would be a dozen (((Americans))) hoarding 99% of the replicators. While everybody else on Earth is a wagie. Whoring themselves out like Dabo girls, for replicated crumbs.
Obviously it's not like that. It's a post-scarcity utopia. That can only happen with Communism.
Lincoln Jenkins
I suppose you don't want me to cite the abject horror show that is communism at its worst but you'ld like me to accept your characterization of capitalism as capitalism at its worst. Do I have it right? You're theoretical communism is the accepted norm, but disregard all the dysfunction where it's been tried and your theoretical capitalism is the norm, but disregard all the prosperity and progress where it's been tried.
If this weren't bait, I'd say you weren't arguing in good faith.
Carson Torres
>I had a meeting at Starfleet HQ with lots of admirals. They were like from a movie. Better-looking than Tom Cruise, and stronger. And I had more admirals than I’ve ever seen, and we were at the bottom of this incredible room. I said “This is the greatest room I’ve ever seen.”