I’m convinced this is peak television. I’m going through for my third viewing, something I’ve never done for another show. I can’t get enough. Anyone feel the same?
I’m convinced this is peak television. I’m going through for my third viewing...
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What was don's enlightenment at the end? What did it mean?
it meant they didn't know how to wrap up the show so they threw in some vague open ended "enlightenment"
his revelation was on how to monetize enlightenment, how to capitalize on the idea of enlightenment and employ it in advertisement. the 1970s were in great part a cynical reaction to the idealist 60s, and Don's revelation at the end is, sort of symbolically, a seed of such appropriation.
Is this show as boring as The Sopranos?
He finally became Don Draper. He assumed this identity of a successfull man but deep down he knew it wasn't really him. He faked it till he make'd it
Well it is peak television.
There's nothing open ended about it. It was projected from season 1 when Don runs into Jim Hobart of McCann and is teased with dreams of working on Coca-Cola if he came and worked for him. That Weiner was able to stick to the landing of the finale and make it connect throughout the series makes Mad Men in conversation of top 5 TV shows ever made. I don't know how much more can be said to convince some faggots on this board the show is excellent.
meant 4 u
couldn't get through the first season. its trash.
It gets better every time, right?
So nothing really changed, he just became comfortable with himself? Or did he actually start to believe that advertisement and the corporate world were worthwhile and ultimately good?
nothing, he cynically used the hippy shit for his next big idea, and almost certainly spent the rest of his life in the same cycle of doing well and thinking he's happy then spiralling that we saw over and over through the show.
DON DRAPER wouldn't care. Dick Whitman, on on the other hand, probably had some reservations because he knew for a fact that it was all false, that the american dream and that all the utopian promises of happiness and belonging weren't sincere.
like said, he finally became Don Draper.
Why do Jews hate America so much?
He found balance. He couldn't undo what had been done but he was able to connect with someone finally after trekking from one side of the country to the other in Kerouac style.
We know this isn't true for the simple fact he finally has to face the fact that his constant avoidance of problems has hit home (Betty dying; Stephanie telling him he's wrong for suggesting it's not a big deal to abandon her child; admitting to Peggy he's broken his vows and scandalized his children, etc. He connects with another broken soul and I look at it as Don has discovered who he is and at peace with that. He changed but he sorta didn't change if that makes sense.
I watch Mad Men like twice a year. Seasons 1-4 are some of the best episodes of television the world has ever seen.
First 4 seasons were good anyway. Gets worse and worse every season from then on.
I just can't imagine him not eventually falling into the same patterns again.
First season is possible the best one, you pleb. Best written dialogue this side of MASH.
sucks
Slips during 5 and 6, but 7 is absolutely fucking kinographic.
On season 6 now and it's become pretty boring. Same shit over and over again.
>"I'm 13 years old and have zero life experience" the post
>It's boring therefore it's art
People typically say season 5 was shit (rise of Megan's presence on the show) but I disagree. It holds up well halfway through Season 6 and from there to the mid-point of 7 it's a slog. Picks up for the last 7 episodes
>waaaa I have a good job but me so depressed and life has no meaning wubba lubba dub dub
I felt that way too. It still has plenty of kino moments though, and 7 is better overall. Stick with it.
4 > 5 > 3 > 2 > 7 > 1 > 6
nice self portrait faggot
>enlightenment
>Coca-Cola
It was projected from season one when Dick Whitman runs into Don Draper's office and is teased with dreams of working on indoor plumbing if he came and worked for him.
Connects throughout the series alright.
You have a childs understanding of happiness and fulfillment if think people with material comfort and looks can't be depressed.
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For me, it's Peter.
nothing happens: the show
>when he and his brother decided they didn't really care that their mom had died or how
Why were they such horrible sons?
4 > 2 > 3 > 5 > 1 > 6 > 7
Some people are literally just waiting for their parents to die so they can cash in. Is what it is.
If you found the sopranos boring you most definitely won't like mad men
It's much slower and doesn't even have the few action sequences the sopranos has
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Pete's dad was an asshole that spent all of Dorothy's money on idiotic investments. Pete had a reason to be resentful.
The scene where he's sitting at home with the gun as Trudy is dressing him down then shuts the door to end the scene is so kino it hurts.
No.
It is if you've never read a book from start to finish.
This may be the best story arc in all of television
>"This is where I grew up."
The chip'n'dip saga, or just Pete/Trudy's character arc in general?
>The chip'n'dip saga
Wasn't it like 1 episode? How did it end? Its been too long.
He means Pete's character in general. He did have a pretty strong arc. Totally redeems himself after hitting rock bottom.
It's basically all their in that tube clip. It's better peppered throughout its original episode, of course, than all at once (and with overdubbed piano).
NOOOOO DON YOU CAN'T MAKE ME YOUR WIFE, GIVE ME A CAREER, ALLOW ME TO LIVE LIKE A QUEEN AND THEN MAKE ME A MILLIONAIRE WHEN WE DIVORCE. I WAS A SECRETARY AND AN ASPIRING ACTOR THAT WOULD LIKELY SUCK DICK TO BE IN COMMERCIALS. NOT MY HECKIN FEELINGERINOS
What was so great about that scene? Why do people always mention it?
To be fair, Don is a terrible husband, and should never get married. Him and Roger both. Their passions cool far too quickly for any sort of long term arrangement.
Just buy drugs wtf?
I just explained in meme format why Don wasn't a terrible husband.
Ok
also her teeth were fucked up
I think it's jewish propaganda that soils the history and memory of the 60-70s era and plants false memories with degeneracy and unfaithfulness.
>I think it's jewish propaganda that soils the history and memory of the 60-70s era and plants false memories with degeneracy and unfaithfulness.
Then it failed because anyone I've known to like this show has said they wish they could go back to the 50s-60s. Just hard to argue against polite society and well-dressed white people with middle-class homes. Can't be beat.
Season 4 is the best and either 6 or 5 are the worst. Don was genuinely progressing in 4 and it really bothered me to see him immediatelly slump down at the very end. Of course there needs to be some sort of conflict in Dons life but it still sucked. Season 7 was fantastic though.
4 > 7 = 3 > 1 >> 2 >>> 5 >= 6
Do you really think rich good looking men are going to radically change year to year?
Plenty of people in the show are shown to be good, the show focuses on the worst of the best. Which is the people in advertising, you know the whole "you sell lies to make people happy" thing?
Weiner gets upset at the poor cynicism people express at the ending thinking Don was just faking. What he's gone on to say is that Don had an honest to god moment at the end of the show...which he then turned around and packaged into an ad.
As if that's any less cynical than what Weiner dislikes.