Muh son died cause positrons banned

It genuinely makes me mad when I see dozens and dozens of positive comments about this show, with some assholes even saying it's the best Star Trek yet. Fuck you, you assholes. No it's not.

>I blame Patrick Stewart for allowing Star Trek to be turned into this trash
Patrick Stewart actively rallied for this, said that TNG was "dead" and that he wanted to address Trump and Brexit via the show. He's more responsible than anyone.

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Patrick Stewart should have just died after his cameo on Extras.

Yes. Stewart is an old man on his way out and this is his farewell. Just one last time as the character, that made me famous. Idc what you write.

The show contradicts itself. It can't even get its own timeline straight. Discovery had the same fucking problem of always undermining its own story with stupid shit.

FIRE KURTZMAN, Jesus Christ. Why do they allow assholes to destroy franchises over and over? Especially thieving assholes like him who couldn't write an original story if his career depended on it.

You know that once you hit 50 your test just evaporates and you basically become a woman? That's why.

>Romulans are African/Middle Eastern refugees
>synths are Mexicans
>the ban on synths = Trump's wall
>Riker's son dying due to synth ban = an immigrant could be a future doctor who will save your life
>ex-Borg = LGBT after coming out or transitioning (they even call them "ex-B" which sounds like 2 letters of the alphabet)
>Zot Vosh = ICE
>modern Starfleet/Federation = post-Brexit UK
>Picard = priveliged old white man who needs to sit back and let the younger generation fix the problems his generation created

You forgot getting talked down to by women repeatedly.

It seems the only person in the galaxy who doesn't resent Picard is Hugh. I guess that's why he had to die.

>Discovery had the same fucking problem of always undermining its own story with stupid shit.
Did Discovery mess its timeline? I'm not denying it has stupid shit, just not sure what are you talking about.

Yes. it's pretty shitty. While I'm glad that Riker and Troi made appearances and they are still together, they still had to have some awful tragedy befall them. I wouldn't be surprised if they are killed off too. I was also surprised that Riker retired already. I'd thought he'd be a Starfleet lifer, even if he had the command of a starship as an Admiral, similar to Kirk.
Fuck Stewart for turning this into a SJWfaggy cause célèbre. He fucked up the movies by wanting Picard to be an action hero and rebel (plus Spiner and his emotion chip horseshit, and their increasing salary demands). This fucking show should have been 'TNG Part II' (even tied into the future shown in the series finale, but with differences); trying to make up for the TNG-era killer of NEM. Instead, there's just a few cameos while Picard slums it with literal whos, while returning characters are killed off.
I'm still annoyed that there was no Captain Riker show (or Captain Worf show), or that the TNG movies continued with Frakes. Star Trek has been a disgrace since 2001. Fuck the prequels and reboots.

Discovery is so borked that it intentionally retconned itself out of existence at the end of S2

DIS is supposed to be set a decade before TOS, now it's going into the future, or some shit. Fuck this turd already.

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so the ancient warning against diversity is Egyptians talking about how much jews suck?

The ship went through a wormhole to the year 3187, and the series will take place in the 32nd century permanently from here on out.

Pike and Spock were left behind in the 2260s, where they agreed that any Federation citizen who ever speaks of, acknowledges or mentions the existence of Discovery or any of its crew (including Spock's sister) would be guilty of treason against the Federation.

It proudly made itself The Show That Never Happened.

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>take show about space exploration and utopian futurism that has a long history of optimism about the future combined with real moral and philosophical cuandries
>turn it into liberal idpol soapbox action show

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>The show contradicts itself. It can't even get its own timeline straight.
Hiring science advisors and continuity people is hard and limiting. I just want to be free to write hamfisted slavery and Drumpf analogies.
What is a photon? How does warp work? Robots are basically magic right? ALL UNIMPORTANT! Instead watch this CW tier romance drama play out.

>yfw you find out picard's "reapers" are actually the discovery trying to keep AI from wiping out all life in the galaxy

>they are still together
I just realized how weird this is. They missed the opportunity to shill for stronk single womyn and fur babies.

Hell the potsmoking mom is a negligent parent even. Somehow that’s Picard’s fault though.

I was annoyed at the Spock's sister nonsense (Surely some other Vulcan could have adopted her to the same effect if that was so important) but actually trying to justify why nobody talked about that one random ship is just dumb. All they needed to do is to blow up space mushrooms and say "Well, we won't be able to use spore drive for centuries now, tough luck"

>>turn it into liberal idpol soapbox action show
you forgot
>where everyone is oppressed and poor despite the fact they can literally replicate anything anytime they want for free

>The ship went through a wormhole to the year 3187, and the series will take place in the 32nd century permanently from here on out.
Everyone kept saying it made no sense to make a prequel and that going forward was the only solution so they pressed a reset button and escape hatched their own creation.
Impressive.

>romulan star empire
>don't notice a single sun going supernova near their homeworld
>somehow this cripples them
>for some reason the refugees go to fed planets instead of romulan ones

Because it's a soft reboot. They've decided the entire concept of a TOS prequel wasn't working out for them so now they're going to do the 30th century sequel that must have been rattling around in the back of everyone's heads ever since Voyager and Enterprise started fucking around with 30th century stuff.

They probably even have decade old USS Relativity spinoff scripts that will require very little retooling to be Discovery episodes.

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You're joking.

So once again they rip off a Rich Evans stupid Idea.

I assure you that I cannot make up a bad faith shitpost less believable or more ridiculous than what has really happened onscreen in Star Trek Discovery.

syfy.com/syfywire/star-trek-discovery-fixes-original-series-canon-in-the-most-hardcore-way

So how far does the redlettermedia influence goes? Im mean, really, in regards of Trek and SW theyre on point

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I don't think I'm imagining or projecting here, that when Discovery was first announced a LOT of Star Trek fans immediately responded with "we don't need a show that takes place before TOS at all, if you're going to make a new Star Trek make it take place farther in the future"

Maybe, but Rich said that they should go a thousand years in the future, not some decades or centuries. And here they go a thousand years into the future

literally fucking everyone watching star trek wanted post-voyager stuff. Basically city on the edge of forever, except every episode.

No eceleb has ever spouted an original thought nor has the bullshit they spouted ever been adopted by literally anyone with any money

We are going to get Andromeda, aren't we?

dont diss steward.
hes an old man and just wants to have fun in his last years.

oh please god no kill me fuck

Just the thought that a ship slightly older and more primitive than the Constitution class would be relevant at all in the fourth millennium and not get instagibbed by whatever a Klingon shuttle looks like in that era suggests that yes, we are getting Andromeda.

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He should kill himself and so should you

yes
the scene where the lady complains about Picard inheriting his home when she lives in a society where every single material need is met was stupid and deliberate retard agitprop

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>klingons
>developing technology
Its canon that all their tech is either practically worthless or stolen. So there's some validity to the idea that a huge diverse technology sharing civilization would produce superior technology to the comparatively tribal monocultures that would pop up after the fall of the federation.

Just gene was too autistic to want to envision the federation falling.

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>agitprop
>I'm going to regret googling this aren't I
>google it
>i actually don't regret it

well that's refreshing

I'll be totally frank with you, I picked two words at semi-random to communicate the point "tiny pissant ship should easily vaporize any ship 800 years older than it"

The fact that the pride of the 2250s is going to cruise the 3180s, getting in shootouts and changing the face of the future galaxy, implies that something's really fucking wrong with everybody in the 3180s.

>Federation bans genetic re-sequencing
>Mr. and Mrs. Bashir go to a planet where it's legal and make their son not retarded
>Troi and Riker move to a planet with magic soil and basically hope crystals will heal their son

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have sexerino, my man.

Patrick Stewart is the epitome of the saying "Never meet your heroes." How can someone misunderstand a character they've played for a decade and be so up their own ass? Fuck him, he's actively making me hate TNG now.

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The federation collapsing would imply something went really fucking wrong, yes.

he always hated picard. he signed onto star trek because he wanted to be kirk, running around banging alien bitches. they made him play second fiddle to a fat man in that role. He was basically cucked every episode.

>the Enterprise J just shows up and facerolls everybody

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The point is that a thousand years old vessel would be a mosquito ready to be swatted by whatever power is prevalent so far in the future.

>enterprise
>canon
sorry son

Picard is senile and probably very easily influenced. None of that is his own decision making.

the point is the federation was so advanced because of so many different races combining their technology. If that stopped and the federation fell apart, basically everyone would be pakleds.

I still think when somebody threw out that "3618 meters long" number they made a mistake. Possibly meant 3618 feet, which would be a 1100 meter vessel, still nearly twice the size of the Galaxy or Sovereign

Imagine a portughese caravela from 1500 engaging in battle with a russiab nuclear submarine.

Talk to any older war vet that's still able to walk around.

What about the Dominion, Borgs, Romulans, Cardassians, dude Im just speaking at the top of my head.

Immediate thought is, if you were playing civilization the caravel would kick the submarine's ass

imagine the state of russia's technology 1000 years after the US collapsed and/or they lost the ability to steal US technology.

Is anyone else confused why Picard needed to be super dark and depressing because of "Brexit and Trump"?

Wouldn't a utopia founded on the principles of understanding and cooperation be a better way to convince the public to drop right-wing politics? I'm a nationalist but I'd love to live in a Star Trek world where every human was educated and able to support themselves.

Picard has already shown us the Borg and Romulans are fucked too, the Cardassians have likely been fucked since the end of DS9, and the Dominion, whatever fortunes they may have, are still tens of thousands of light years away

Okay this is a terrible example that's gonna bait the russaboos, nice job

Having magic mushrooms would make an interesting dynamic, even without weapon. Weapon can be refitted later anyway. Well, would if writers were any good.

This was a thoughtful letter he wrote Gene in 1988, but this slowly and surely led to 'Captain's Holiday', Die Hard in space, going against Starfleet in INS and the fucking buggy chase sequence in NEM.

missionlogpodcast.com/patrick-stewarts-thoughts-on-developing-picard/

nigga the borg, cardassians, and dominion also dominated and stole tons of tech from other races. The borg literally admit as much every time they're shown.

hell, pickerd is implying the only reason the romulans have comparable tech is reverse-engineered tech from the various extinct cultures.

IT'S *CLAP* NOT *CLAP* YOUR *CLAP* SHOW *CLAP* ANY *CLAP* MORE *CLAP*
Go fucking watch your cheesy 90s feelgood trash. We literally live under fascism right now and we need a hero like picard for escapism and hope.

Why does literally everything need a direct connection to each other in modern writing? There was this, and also

>Black lady's son just happens to be at the same place as Picard was going so she had a motive to go with him
>Pilot backstory just happens to be completely tied to Picard's mission

Etc. Everyone is like 2 degrees of separation from everyone else. I think some writer has said that it's good to make the world feel really tied together, but to me it makes everything feel artificial and tiny.

So in a whole 1000 years, no race made any tecnologicap developments at all that surpasses the Discovery? Come on.

The idea is the rest of the world doesn't have to spend as much on the military because american developments are going to filter out via espionage.

Star Trek tech progress is pretty wonky all over the place. Like aren't Vulcans and Romulans and everyone much older than Humans in term of spacefaring, but Humans still reached dominance.

Discovery broke the universe already with the magic space mushrooms, because they didn't throw in a "this only works because we found this unique macguffin that exists nowhere else in the galaxy." Instead they did the opposite and said it was everywhere in the universe, which means even if the Federation decided to mothball it for literally no reason, other advanced societies should have discovered it.

A frail old bald man wants to be a space swashbuckler. I pity him.

or the discovery would be comparable because most everyone's been on equal footing since the collapse of the federation. and it does have shrooms.

>Humans still reached dominance.
along with dozens/hundreds of other races.