Kylo Ren vs Darth Vader

>A more interesting question is where the fuck was Force Ghost Anakin while literally everything was happening with Ben and in the years following the Uncle Luke bedroom incident?
Where was Obi-Wan? Does it matter? It's not a stupid question, but I think having a bunch of Force Ghosts around the watercooler the whole time would've just cluttered up the story.

Vader is anakin Skywalker and anakin Skywalker is the hero of the clone wars with top tier skills and experience far beyond Kylos

that story couldn't possibly be more cluttered than it already is. 2-3 movies in one, and executed lazily

The sequels barely had enough of a plot for one movie, let alone fucking three.

Because the fucking impetus of damn near the entire sequel trilogy's events could have been avoided if grandpa vader just sat and had a conversation with his grandson going through an emo phase.

an emo phase as a 30 year old man

Who would win? Your mother when you eventually hang yourself you fucking manchild

For Kylo yea it pretty much was, especially considering the entire crux of it started with Vader.

Which I'm just gonna say has never made a lick of fucking sense to me to begin with, but that's an entire other problem with these stupidass movies.

kylo cause driver has millitary training and vader is a geriatric burn victim

Kylo
>died kissing a 4/10 girl
>broke his mask when some beta, mass produced, clone said it looked stupid
>was used and manipulated by palpy through the voices of others
>weak to being shot, stabbed, and ugly scavengers promising him some pussy

Vader
>force choked his 10/10 wife
>killed children to show dominance
>Palpy had to manipulate him face to face
>threw Palpy into a death pit anyways cuz lol fuk that guy
>didn't die, just chose to stop living
>only weakness is sand

I'm not defending the story overall, I just don't think Anakin's absence is a particularly major problem with it. Besides, everyone with taste knows that Sebastian Shaw is the only acceptable Force Ghost Anakin, and who the fuck wants another CGI abomination?

Truly a dilemma, user.

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From what I noticed the rule for force ghosts to appear is that you need to have known the person before they died.

So Obi-Wan appears to Luke.
Luke appears to Rey.

And so on..

>only weakness is sand
top kek

then explain all the voices at the end of TRoS

voices =/= force ghosts

It makes no sense to me at all that when he destroys the helmet you can clearly see its only been mangled and bent in from the front, then later once its fixed it looks like it had smashed into pieces like a plate that had been dropped on the floor

You hear plenty of voices in TROS that were never Force Ghosts.

Are you kidding, the OT helmet design is so alpha; it is exclusively chad.
>Betaboi Kylo aka virgin prncss

Did you guys even watch the movie? Heres pic of the end

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Who?

Kylo is such a ridiculous character. He killed his father, then later he regrets it and turns to the light side.
What an absolute travesty these new movies are.

Nothing will ever beat Vader in terms of raw power or classic aesthetics but man, Kylo's helmet looks cool as fucking shit. His saber also looks and sounds badass, plus the way he wields it like a one handed claymore and thrusts it forward even when just igniting it...
He has to be the chaddiest virgin to ever grace the galaxy

Are you stupid? That was the only remotely interesting thing about them

Lmao that’s a gr8 edit

Clearly you care enough to give an answer to the thread lol.

Kylo who?

Lmao How are some people so fucking unaware

And immediately lost it again.

The whole thing of Force Ghost is retarded and only made sense within the only SW Episode IV movie, since at the time it was a move made without having a sequel in mind and it was a way to move the plot forward regarding Luke's training.
After that movie, they become increasingly retarded, especially in the sequels where the can basically do whatever the fuck they want in the physical world event though they're dead :

- interact with living people, freely.
- control lightning
- lift heavy as fuck objects
Add the Force teleportation of objects and you start to imagine ways of the plot being solved in minutes after the beginning of the movie.

Anakin could have popped up and have a fucking talk with Kylo Ren ages ago
There was no point for the Skywalkers not to tell Rey the truth of her family name if not for dramatic effect
Force Ghosts could have just straight up fuck things up, for anyone. They're basically like the Ghost Army in LOTR III TROTK, they can kill and not be killed, it's stupid.
Intelligent limitations should have been made cannon before pursuing with the idea of Force Ghosts, at best they should have stayed faint voices in one's head.

please remove the reddit baby. thanks.

The only reason it came back at all was for merchandising. I was still surprised by how little he wears it in TRoS, though.

Dooku's face fucking kills me here for some reason

kekeroni!

KEK

Kylo. Anakin was the Chosen One, but that got retconned because he died like a stupid bitch burn victim with no penis.

Kylo was his heir that was meant to surpass him and become more powerful and he did even though he died so Kylo x 100

>Anakin in his prime couldn't save the woman he loved
>every Force User ever looking for the power to restore life
>all fail because they are beta bitches

>Kylo succeeds in restoring life and saving the woman he loves therefore cementing himself as the most powerful Force User ever before peacing out to dab on Anakin and make him jealous

>Chosen One
This will always be some of the stupidest shit in Star Wars.

trans hands wrote this.

whoever has the high ground, obviously

seethe

Anakin died like a bitch and Kylo is more powerful than him or anyone. He did what no one else could, but tried to. He's more powerful than Palpatine or Anakin put together. Rule of 2 confirmed inferior to Kylo Ren and the dyad.

Cringe

Anakin would’ve ragdolled Rey with the force circa Episode 2 aotc

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Are YOU stupid?

The force hasn't made sense since ROTJ. Now it's an anime asspull superpower.

Tough question. On one hand Kylo's whiney anger issues make him a tough opponent. You just can't help but feel sorry for the guy.
On the other hand, you have Anakin fucking Skywalker aka Darth fucking Vader who killed Count fucking Dooku and decapitated him, was a hero of the clone wars, was absolute top tier, and as Vader slaughtered countless Jedi, including the blade master of the Jedi Temple. The absolute madman also fully committed to the Dark Side. This is why the Emperor was so surprised by Anakin's return in Return of the Jedi. Vader had completely committed to the dark side. Only his son could breathe on the embers of Anakin's soul. WIthout Luke, Anakin would never have resurfaced. Only a cold efficient killing machine would have remained.

Compared to Anakin/Vader, Kylo's a chump.

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Spot on, and don't forget Anakin was manipulated since he was like, what, 8 years old? Old man daddy Palpatine pats little Ani on the shoulder after the battle of Naboo and immediately starts grooming him and feeding his ego. Kylo was manipulated by some clone and because he felt a bit neglected by his parents. OK, he was neglected to an extent, but Anakin had no father, was a slave, had to abandon his mother whom the Jedi (except for Qui Gon) did not care for. Qui Gon died, so Anakin's mother was forgotten even more. Anakin saw some shit.

- Vader spent lifetime being a slave for the empror.
- Kylo turned at the first possibility

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We're not talking about Rey, keep coping.

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Your ugly shitter fave couldn't do shit about anything he wanted to. Yet Kylo survived Palpatine throwing him down a pit and literally did what no one else ever could do, restore life and save the woman he love. Anakin is seething in the Force forever.