Why did they put a giant full moon behind them in The Two Towers poster?

Fun fact, Minas Morgul where the witch King resides was once called Minas Ithil which translates to Tower of the Moon. It hasn't got anything to do with OPs question but I thought it was interesting, ha ha.

maybe it actually does ?

>Called the two towers
>Actually its mainly about one tower
Bravo

two towers was the best entry in the trilogy, prove me wrong.

1>3>2
It was "the worst" but still one of the greatest movies

It's about Frodo and Sam's journey towards Mordor where one tower rules the surrounding area and Aragorn's, Legolas and Gimli journey towards Isengard/Rohan where the other tower rules the surrounding area.

Frodo and Legolas and Bard's son Bain are relentlessly handsome.

>ghost army
>legolas' oliphant takedown
>pippin singing
I politely disagree
1 = 2 > 3

Meant for

the helms deep plot is handled much better than the fight at gondor

What the fuck

Why didnt gandalf get the ents to go to mordor abd throw the ring in? Also why didnt they help during the final battle??

GIWTWM

I'm sure nothing bad would happen if you put a bunch of tree people near a giant super-hot volcano.

In the book, yes. The first part of TTT (book 3) is entirely from the point of view of Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas on one hand, and Pippin and Merry on the other. The second part (book 4) is entirely about Sam and Frodo and it covers their journey up to the point where Frodo's stabbed body is taken by orcs. Naturally, Minas Morgul plays a huge role in this story and is features on the book cover in a Tolkien's illustration.

But in the film version of TTT Frodo and Sam don't even make it to the Crossroads of the King, and Minas Morgul doesn't appear until RotK.

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It's just his haircut bro

I always assumed the two towers were orthanc and barad dur, not orthanc and minas morgul

I've never understood this, but who the fuck is gimli?

They used gollum's FOTR design otn this poster

Aside from the battle its not that great. Has a lot of shit thats going nowhere.

Why did Aragorn fall into the river again? It had no effect on the story, he just returns and is ready to fight before the orks arrive.
All the shit with the Ring is basically just very repetitive bickering between Gollum and Sam while Frodo looks sick.

A dwarfen warrior of noble blood?

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Aragorn warns them an army is marching 10000 strong

What i never understand is how gimli knows ''These are no simple orcs, these are uruk-hai!'' when saruman made them just earlier this film

they fought uruk-hai in the first movie

Gandalf could tell him. Or Gimli knew the term. There were also black Uruks of Mordor.

And...? I mean yeah thanks for telling now what?

Composition and to contrast the tower

I never understood the love for helms deep its alright and looks pretty at times but it's not that great either
Why did the elves just come up to get locked up
Why weren't they harassing the uruk since they left isengard
For that matter didn't Theoden have a company or two of horse archers to spare for that too?
Why didn't the uruk just siege the place
Why didn't they send part of their army to ravage the entire country while the like 3000 soldiers it holds are stuck in some stupid castle
Why did they think this shit was impregnable when its design is retarded
Seriously, you cant just walk into a good medieval castle defended by as many soldiers as they had even with 10.000 or more. A bunch of stupid orcs with barely any equipment almost took the entire thing in a single night. Shit design even without the bomb.
Where the fuck were their 6000 trained cavalry
2000 were with Eomer, alright, the other stayed home or something?
Why would a people renowned for its horses and cavalry dig in a fortress with peasant levies? Why would they even leave like two thirds of their potential army to fend for themselves in their isolated farms and nowhere to gather while rushing to an old crumbling ruin with no provisions?
At least in Minas Tirith, Gondor armies are utterly routed so it makes sense they have no choice but to endure a siege, but literally nothing at Helm's Deep makes any sort of sense.

Most comfy movie
Love Rohan scenes
Love Eowyn
Simple as

>Why didn't the uruk just siege the place
What d you think the battle for helms deep was?

>Theoden have a company or two of horse archers to spare
lol middle-earth guarentee suicide mission

Occult

>What d you think the battle for helms deep was?
An obvious assault, not a siege

Theoden is the best character, he is the only reason TT is my favourite one.

In a film where the stakes are the survival of mankind and defending the world from eternal darkness and shit, suicide missions are kinda mandatory
The entire trilogy is basically a rapid succession of suicide missions

They had to run to Helms Deep (Which was made by dwarves and given to Rohan centuries ago as a gift) because when Theoden was possessed by Saruman into being crazy he banished Eomer and the majority of his standing cavalry army into the wilds as outlaws. Because he was crazy. That's why in the movie they show you Eomer riding around trying to do what you suggested, and him specifically say that he is an outlaw along with his men. So when news came to the now sane Theoden of what had happened he realized he had little to NO time left. So he ran to helms deep, levied what he could, and Gandalf with a few dudes went around raising what they could to show up and help at Helms Deep. The elves didn't just sit there and Harass the Uruks because they just would've done more good to help out those in the walls in this situation than otherwise. There were only 300 men (not elves counted) total at Helms Deep, most of them random peasants. They couldn't just send people out when they needed every man possible. Also they thought that it was impregnable because no one had used gunpowder before.

The design was shit even without powder, a good castle with 300 fighting men could hold armies for literal months under early canon fire
Why were there only 300 (3000 I think) men around Edoras
Why choose to dig in a fortress that cam be cut from the world from only one side and then hope that everything will work out
Just like, go anywhere else and gather your forces rather than hole up with no hope of reinforcements
Elves are obviously light fast soldiers with no armor or shields. They wouldn't do more damage defending the walls than harassing uruks and slowing them down, and they surely didn't, they got wrecked on those walls.

I mean the very first battle where gunpowder was used in Europe was a castle siege, with a large force sieging a much smaller one and it still went on for weeks until the garrison surrendered

There's a marked difference between human tactics and orc tactics.

Orcs don't give a flying fuck about casualty rates and suicide bombing themselves

Tell a guy that they can assault a castle to take it over now, but lose half of their guys, and they'll wait it out.
Orcs won't.

was always my favorite
also, all those based Ent parts

>Tell a guy that they can assault a castle to take it over now, but lose half of their guys, and they'll wait it out.
Most of the time yeah
Most of the time only though
Helms deep was really shit design, these stupid fucking walls, that gigantic useless courtyard, that door that the uruk miraculously didn't notice, that fucking hole at the base of walls
Worst fucking building ever
I bet any medieval commander would have tired storming it

They were winning/surviving pretty well at Helms Deep until they blew up the walls. Sorry that there were only three hundred males in all of Edoras at the time that also survived the warg battle. I'm sure the circumstances of the entire situation should've totally left a different number. Dwarves made the castle, they like mountains, every other time they used Helms Deep is worked so they felt it'd work again. They explained that going anywhere else would have lead to being caught by the Uruk horde and being in an open field would've been suicide against the numbers. They didn't have the time to go somewhere else anymore. The elves did plenty more damage on the walls, and helped out by adding buffer man power which bought time. Elves are also the equivalent of super people and did much better than you gave them credit for, but you're kind of hell bent of being some military pseud so this won't go anywhere.

There was an endless tide of suicidal Uruk-hai charging at the castle the entire time, even when they bombed it. Regular dudes wouldn't do that, or be anywhere near the wall when that bomb went off.

>Theoden
i always think of adrian smith from iron maiden every time i see those movies

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Ok Mr. Plays Total War So Knows Everything.

Calm down incel, I'm bent on discussing and shitposting a little why this scene doesnt make a lick of sense, you can mental gymnastics all you want to defend it if you want, sure, but calling anyone a military pseud for doing the opposite is retarded
Also you clearly underestimate the resolve of countless armies throughout history doing things you consider suicidal from the comfort of your living room
Any large WW1 battle is ten times more horrendous, suicidal and seems a lot crazier to go over and charge into
than Helms Deep from the attackers perspective. Even by pre-industrial standards there are tons of more fucked up desperate insane suicidal examples than this.

Total War has really garbage siege battles though
Total War in general is pretty fucking trash tbqh

>6000 trained cavalry
?? do you mean the ones from the battle for middle earth? were that 6000 or just the same ones as from helms deep with gndalf and eomer ???

It’s actually Minas Morgul and Minas Tirith.

>Nothing ever dampens your spirits does it Sam?

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6000, and most of them apparently werent at Helms Deep since they have to gather
Or maybe Theoden The Retard just sent them home after Helm's Deep, I don't know

It was a different time

Why the fuck title your book/movie after a city that doesn't even appear in it?

The two towers of the title are Minas Tirith (called the Tower of the Sun, or Tower of the Morning) and Minas Morgul (the Tower of the Moon.) The moon is therefore a reference to the Witch King's stronghold at Minas Morgul.

The order is 1>2>3

But the Helms Deep sequence is one of the battle scenes consigned to film history and the best part of the trilogy. Fellowship overall is a better film though.

Because the story of the history of Minas Tirith and Minas Morgul has a prominent place in the book, and I guess Tolkien wanted to focus on that.

This isn't proven, the title two towers was rushed due to publisher demand, it could mean either Orthanc and Barad Dur, Minas Tirith and Minas Morgul, or Orthanc and Minas Morgul.

Tolkien seemed to confirm in his last letters on the subject that the two towers did in fact refer to Orthanc and Minas Morgul, since the book is basically two books in one; one focused on events surrounding Orthanc/Isengard and the other focused on Frodo and Sam at Minas Morgul.

I always thought Orthanc and Barad Dur made more sense since they are the two central antagonistic factions that are vieing for the ring at the time and are unambiguously towers.

His own illustrations and letters say the two towers are Orthanc and Minas Morgul since each half of the book (book 3 and book 4) are focused on those two locations.