Is it possible that Palpatine was also manipulating Luke in order for him to lose the judgment that saved his Dad?

>in order for him to lose the judgment that saved his Dad?
You mean the judgement that made him nearly kill his father and hack his hand off?
I just wish you OT fanboys actually understood the OT ...

at this point everything seems to point that All those ''force visions'' from episodes 1 to 9 may actually been Palpatine manipulating every single skywalker.

Sure whatever why not

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Hi tranny

Can you step up your bait game so this is actually fun?

Possible, sure, but Star Wars still sucks.

Have sex

You really think that understanding Luke in ROTJ is bait? Really? Not everyone is as dumb as you are, brainlet.

Wtf’s wrong with Luke’s arm?

What cope. Just give up on star wars.

Luke actually jealous because he foreseen that kylo gonna kiss rey

The right one has once had the hand cut off and replaced with a prosthetic.
The left one is just drawn badly.

It's just dumb writing.

No. Your boomer fave is just an asshole.

the right one is literally coming out of his stomach

This. That's why Luke got triggered when Ben took Rey's virginity in the hut during TLJ. He always foresaw that his Chad nephew had a Force-sanctioned dyad waifu since he was 10 while Luke himself was always destined to die a virgin. He was just jealous of Ben's BDE and the Force favoring him and not Luke who got skipped over.

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Just some animated bit from the Dark Empire comic.

Holy shit they look so different in comics. Rey looks like a nigger

>Chad
>got whipped on his back by her twice, stabbed by her, yeeted down a hole for her, then had his life force sacrificed for her
Kylo's a fucking simp.

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The ending of TROS with Ben dying is just jealous incel propaganda because Ben was blessed with Chad genes and the Force gave him a dyad waifu just for existing as a based, rare, Chad. It's a metaphor for how Chad's IRL don't have to work at all for women, the waifus come to them naturally. It's just nature.

meanwhile incels like JarJar Abrams have to dream up fake waifus like Rey in their heads and kill off their Chad love interests in their fanfic version of the story to make themselves feel better

das rayciss

>t. JJ Cuckbrams

Every knows your fanfic is fake and Ben Solo is currently pounding Rey's sandpuss hourly.

Yawn

>Rey sensing her husbando's fall all the way from Jakku

Cute!

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Magic Jedi 3 arm joints technique

No. If it´s not in the movie it doesn´t exist no matter how anyone tries to fix it, expand it or explain it later on in other pieces of media. Even as part of a legacy a movie´s argument and plot should work independantly and provide propper context and exposition as well as provide it´s characters with propper objectives, motivations, flaws and backstory.

Disney Wars have 2 major flaws. The first one is that they just don´t do this, which means that these movies fail to stablish a basic clasic hero narrative. Normally classical narrative would at least work with archetypes, the original SW movies for example are a from the book hero´s journey, which explains it´s timeless iconicity. Meanwhile Disney Wars ditched the archetypes, allegadly to aim for more complex character constructions. (except they didn´t do that and ended up with plot devices rather than characters)

The second major flaw is that these movies took a shit on the SW legacy in every sense, presumably to stablish their own world building logic. This can be observed more clearly in what they did with Luke. He doesn´t act like Luke because he isn´t Luke, he is what Disney needed Luke to be for the story they wanted to make to work (AKA stablish Kylo Ren origin).
The same logic can be observed on how the movies are put together narratively and visually disregarding the Lucas´s style. In that sense these movies are not even SW and don´t add anything to the stablished universe. Rather they take advantage to the existing elements that make it to build it´s own thing.

Some people may have been willing to give this second flaw a pass if Disney had constructed something good but since the first flaw exist the whole thing is a failure whose only merit is giving little girls some heroine.

Cope.

>ameritard thinks that spoonfeeding background info means good writing
You must really hate The Empire Strikes Back.

>goattfuckistanian thinks tros didn't spoonfeed
Imagine being this microcephalic.

you just complained about lack of spoonfeeding.

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Why are deranged looking old evil bastards so aesthetic? I want to call him daddy

Not that user, also cute dodge.

No, no one thinks that TROS didn't spoonfeed. Stop trying to distract from the bullshit you just wrote.

Kino

>why won't you play along with my shitpost reeeeeeee
See also

Is is possible you need to reevaluate your life?

Damn, watching all the reddit-tier capeshit that this board loves so much has really ruined your brain, it seems.

who cares

>people point out my retarded ideas
>ah, they must like this thing i hate
Fuck Star Wars, you're a retard. And that's ok.

>regular shit, but japanimated
KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I just explained how classic narrative works. SW is and has always been calssic hero journey narrative to the bone. It´s narrative style is defined by archetypes, not complex author constructs and singular stylish choices. That kind of film making doesn´t work on franchises and as a matter of fact only works on self contained movies half of the time at best because even for the authors themselves their style is not always aligned with the content of their creations.

In classic film making yes, you have to use exposition. SW is classic film making. In non classic film making you use other forms of association via montage, depth of field and other forms of subtle cinematography elements to provide more ambiguous interpretations but the information must still be visible in the film, even for internal conflicts. If the information is not in the movie then it doesn´t exist.

>I just explained how classic narrative works.
No, you didn't. You just displayed how little you know about writing.

>has always been calssic hero journey narrative to the bone.
The "calssic hero journey" is bullshit. It's an utterly reductionist theory that fails to grasp the nuances of storytelling and instead ops for a comparatively strict template of plotpoints.
There are 2000 years of literary theory that you're neglecting in favour of an overhyped instruction manual for dummies.

>That kind of film making doesn´t work on franchises
Source: Your arse.

>If the information is not in the movie then it doesn´t exist.
That's idiotic. Have you seen or read Medea? Literally non of the "information" you are asking for is in that one. And why is that? Because it's provided outside of it, in culturally shared myths
What about Hitchcock's Psycho? Do we ever get Marion's full backstory? No, because we don't need it. You're just too stupid to recognize that not all information is necessary inforamtion.

>PLAY ALONG REEEEEEEE
Kek no you faggot

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>You just displayed how little you know about writing.
>argues tros had nuance

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>argues tros had nuance
Erm, no. I never wrote that, you little strawmanning shithead.

Looks pretty kino boys, I want more.

No. If any semblance of OT should be respected then Luke turned away from the emperor's temptation and control.

>implies tros didn't spoonfeed
>n-no user i wasn't fucking retarded enough to actually defend this trashfire i swear
Gonna die on that molehill I see.

what could have been

Yeah, that’s probably their explanation. Doesn’t matter though because none of it was shown in the movies beyond a couple minutes of weak exposition flashbacks.

>implies tros didn't spoonfeed
No, user, I did not. Point to the exact post where you think I did that or shut up.

now youve said it, a novelization will occur with a patch to sort out the full of holes shitshow sequels. its inevitable.

Your spoon, my good shitposter

>Your spoon
Are you literally too stupid to know that TESB is not the same film as TROS?
Holy shit, the reddit is strong in you.