Thread for the serious discussion of arthouse and classic cinema.
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Thread for the serious discussion of arthouse and classic cinema.
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What am i in for?
sneed
Czech kino
Were any films edited like The Cremator before The Cremator? Seems like Roeg is credited with that type of editing yet The Cremator did that before.
you guys understand that film is a visual medium and should be watched with sound and subtitles turned off, right?
I think I'lll watch this again this weekend
whats films favourite acters? i like James Stewart.
ded thred
what kind of editing? it's been a while since I watched either
James Stewart
Marcello Mastroianni
Rudolf Hrušínský
Tatsuya Nakadai
Anatoliy Solonitsyn
Max Von Sydow
Burt Lancaster
Dirk Bogarde
Jean-Louis Trintignant
Jean Gabin
Lee Kang-Sheng
Tony Leung
Humphrey Bogart
Robert Mitchum
trying to get into proper movies lads, what are some directors that i should give a good look? so far I've seen
>tarkovsky
>kubrick
>bergman
In no particular order
Philip Seymour Hoffman
Joaquin Phoenix
Daniel Day Lewis
Jack Nicholson
Bruno Ganz
Willem Dafoe
Emily Watson
Ralph Fiennes
Sam Neill
Gene Hackman
Fellini, Jean Renoir, Mizoguchi, Luchino Visconti, Bresson, Jacques Tati, etc
Just search directors on TSPDT that's a good starting list
1985 might be classic but its not really arthouse just soviet
Arthouse has such a vague definition that it might be that.
Luv the photographs in the woods
Luv glasha
Luv the bog
'Ate the third act
'Ate the razing
'Ate baby Hitler
Ok
Dreyer bad
Dreyer is theatrical with Vampyr being his only film instead of filmed theater. But yes Dreyer bad, correct.
Redpill me on filmed theater
Theatre came first therefore all film must be impossible as theatre but filmable theatre is okay.
>Parasite
>Midsommar
>Joker
Pick one
What kind of a retard does one have to be to think Passion of Joan of Arc is filmed theatre?
What are some other theatrical filmmakers to avoid?
I'm mostly talking about post Vampyr films. Joan is alright, Rivette and Bresson did a better job with it though.
none, just watch them and form your own opinion instead of taking everything you read on the internet as the absolute truth.
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Shit, I never thought of it like that
Well, the only Dreyer films I've seen are Joan and Vampyr, so I can't speak about his other films
Kino thread
Akira Kurosawa, Paul Thomas Anderson, David Lynch, Terrence Malick and Michael Haneke are some of my favourites you haven't mentioned.
what's his best?
>this dimwit in every thread that calls Dreyer bad
filtered
This dimwit that can't distinguish between calling somebody bad and theatrical unworthy of using cinematic canvas.
you're still wrong dimwit, Gertrud is his best film
someone give me a list of mallicks films with both ordinal and cardinal ratings.
Why?
I've seen few silent films, my list consists only of
>The Phantom Carriage
>Battleship Potemkin
>La Passion de Jeanne d'Arc
>Man with a movie camera
I have Napoleon and I will watch it next week, what else do you suggest me? I know about The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari and City Girl, what others are essential? I think Chaplin is cringe so avoid suggesting him.
not really. film/cinema is a mixed media with visuals, audio, and anything that will enhance the narrative (as film/cinema is primarily a narrative distribution tool) is a-okay.
there is no best. quit that way of limited thinking. there's preference. I prefer the blue, white, red, trilogy more the Dekalog.
among other reasons, because of the camera movement, which is at its best in Gertrud and which you can't do in theater.
I personally think that Sunrise is even better than City Girl, but both are essentials by Murnau. I also recommend Greed by Stroheim, Metropolis, and The Crowd by King Vidor.
Medievil masterpiece. Watch Valley of the Bees after.
You just posted it
How does one appreciate silent films when any of their innovations are widely used in other cinema and they are generally limited technologically? Makes them boring.
I dont know but somehow I appreciate you more when you're silent
I will watch both Sunrise and City Girl next week. I remember watching a "horror" film years ago about some sort of scientist who would drink something and different situations happened. It wasn't Dr Jekyll but I might be wrong because there are like 9 silent Dr Jekyll films
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Stop looking at them just for their innovations, appreciate it as art.
>Don't be mentally ill
>Don't be a mental midget
>Have a 3 digit IQ
>Don't be a capeshitter
>Don't be American
>Makes them boring.
nope. they aren't boring. you are bored by them. bit of a difference. I'd say find a way to appreciate their intrinsic value without focusing on the aspects that bore you. or break through the wall that keeps you from appreciating them. similar to how we all appreciate the Mona Lisa even thought there have been strides in painting since.
Name 4 essential Lynch film
who are you quoting?
>Any attempt to simplify patterns of behavior into prescriptive forms ends up with people forcing those patterns to support those forms post hoc
>implying you don't do this constantly already ie what is language
they are all essential, except maybe Dune.
how bout none of em
>who are you quoting?
wdhmbt?
>Narrative in general is evil.
that is not an argument. that's a silly ass moralistic equivocation.
I'm not going to read a whole thread so I can reply to a nigger
What camera movements lmao. There are no impressive visuals in the whole film.
best as in what touched you the most, they are pretty personal films after all
nope. straightforward question by that user to gain some context you are not providing by cherry-picking quotes from someone who is apparently far superior intellectually than you are even though he's in the wrong.
4 best?
I'd recommend Birth of a Nation and Intolerance
>I think Chaplin is cringe so avoid suggesting him
Could you say what you've seen of his that you thought was cringe? Also, if you're gonna watch City Girl, you should definitely check watch Nosferatu, Faust, and Sunrise (I personally think Sunrise is overrated as fuck, but you should still watch it to see what you think of it)
dune is essential
You need to get your eyes checked. Screenshots don't do it justice, same with Vampyr.
is it really? I'd say The Elephant Man is more essential from his pair of hired projects, the other being Dune. they are not personal projects as they do not stem from original ideas (or written by his then wife like The Straight Story) nor are they extensions of his artistic cosmology. so I wouldn't say they are essential even though I appreciate them.
It helps if you pay attention to what's happening visually. Also not all silent films are good. Quite a few of them are really boring