S-SAVE... M-M... M

He could've said something like "M-my mother. Save her" or some shit
Who the fuck ever calls their parents by their first name?
It was awkward. They could have had Batman not hear him say that and then he could've been like "Martha you deaf cunt, save my mother Martha"

He could barely get out two words and you want him to say multiple sentences? Then there's the fact that revealing his identity to the man trying to murder him is not really smart. His goal is for the woman to be saved. It doesn't really matter if she's his mother or not in that scenario, in fact it may have even backfired if Batman thought the mother of an alien was a threat. He gave the most amount of information to Batman that he could in that scenario. Save Martha.

>save my mom
>dies
> hmmm Batman doesn’t have a lot to go on here since Superman had a secret identity

Cope.
Stop making excuses for badly executed bad ideas

SAVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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This is how you detractors always respond when it becomes obvious that your complaints are nonsensical.

M-My nigga

Did Clark called Martha in the first movie by her name?

>S-SAVE... M-M-MY... M-M.-MO-MOTHERR......... H-HER... N-NAME... I-IS... M-M-MARTHA
Yeah that was definetly easier

And the argument of you apologist is that you just want it to work so bad. So bad.
Detractors are the reasonable ones, face it and move one.

To this day, I'm so disappointed this fight happened and it happened the way it did when the material it ripped off would've been 1000x better even if it was taken verbatim from the damn comic which has it's flaws and unfilmable comic tier shit.

jesus christ.. they tried to make supes a boy scout anyway.. just do wtf they did in tdkr.. make him encroach on batmans territory at the behest of the US govt. dont pull this dumb shit where all superman has to do is talk to batman for 30 seconds to set the story straight and batman A) has no clue what's going on and B) is in such a dumb, blind rage that he can't control himself and keeps throwing fucking sinks at superman.

snyder is great aesthetically and he casts his films well. his cinematography is also not bad at all. but damn does he completely misunderstand characters and plot.

Detail your reasoning if you're so right. You already tried once and it didn't make sense. Now you're just posting empty insults.

>superman has to do is talk to batman for 30 seconds to set the story straight
Batman never cared about that. Did you even watch the movie? His entire reasoning against Superman is that men are fallible and that even if Superman was good now, the chance that he could be corrupted later was too great a risk to take given his power. Batman was completely jaded after 20 years of fighting crime. It was only after Superman gave his life to protect Earth that Batman realized that there was still good left in man.

>Detail your reasoning if you're so right.
Fuck off already, zealot. It has been years. YEARS.
How meany time do you need to hear things you will just dismiss becuse they don't fit your narrative?

> Batman didn’t even figure out Superman’s currently identity and all of his past fake identities and all the people who are close to Clark by the time he confronts Superman
Wow what an abominable portrayal of Batman

You think "save Martha" narrows it down who he meant?

You already tried once in this thread and it was completely nonsensical. You're just angry and will argue forever because you're an emotional bitch.

Batman knew Luthor is involved and Martha will help him track down the specific kidnapped victim.

>snyder is great aesthetically
not at all, great at aesthetic is more the cool wallpaper material and it also includes understanding of tone
> and he casts his films well.
he's disastrous you mean, at least for his DC flicks
> his cinematography is also not bad at all.
At best he's good for videoclips/videogame cutscenes

Martha?

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I'm not the user you argued with before, brainlet

Based

SAYVE MEEEEE.... LET YOUR WARM HANDS BREAK RIGHT THROUGH ME AND.... SAYVE MEEEEEEE....

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>n-not me, I just argue for him
idgaf, either put up reasoning and get reamed bitch

Based Tom Welling is the 2nd best Kal El after Reeves.

If he would have gone after Luthor it wouldn't make any difference if he knew the name or not. The fact that he had a hostage was enough.

Except Martha gives him more details to work with. What should Superman have said instead, given your reasoning? It needs to be two words or less, because that's all he could barely get out as he was about to be executed.

He said like two full sentences.
They could have suggested he was going to say/thinking mother by simply saying "you're letting him kill my moth-Artha", obviosly it wouldnt sound retarded,but it'd just be a subtle slip that would have made a better impact and saved the scene
Or even changed the fight scene where he spits it out through blows or some shit

>Except Martha gives him more details to work with
It would change nothing except him knowing her name.

god, that's a retarded, convoluted excuse to make them punch each other. and if that's true, he's retarded for letting superman live because he found out clarks adoptive mother shared the same first name as his mother.

the point still stands. TDKR had far superior motivations behind their brawl. Batman wanted to be left alone to do his thing in his city. superman was a boyscout doing what the federal govt wanted him to do. they didn't have a way around their dilemma without going through each other.

also, if what you say is true, then what is the purpose of all the luthor shit with him setting up this elaborate scheme to kill supes' mom and drop lois lane from a building so they fight each other? it's one or the other. either batman just wanted to fight him anyway and that whole plot was superfluous garbage or he didnt and their reason for fighting was incredibly contrived and stupid.

fucking kek

Lana was best with Lex
I would have loved to see Tom as Superman, even their Lex in this too because Jesse Eisenberg was complete and utter shit

>Everyone on internet is one person

i wanna sniff her

Let’s not forget that they throw in fucking Doomdays as “the final big bad guy” so both superman and batman can fight in the end, oh and Wonder Woman fucking jump in to help as well. Doomday being in the batman vs superman was a huge fucking red flag for me before the movie even get released. Flamboyant Lex Luthor was the other red flag

well, clearly batman and superman fighting each other isn't a big enough event for a film. you need doomsday AND lex luthor, weird cameos from the flash in a dream sequence, wonder woman shoehorned in.. jolly rancher product placement.. etc

Thank you, user.

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>you'll never witness Chloe brand her mark on Lana
;_;

>Victor
>Rezzzzz...novvvvvvvvvvvv

Lana and Lex had the most natural, logical relationship on that show (followed by Clark and Lois). Don't change my mind.

>BUCKY'S ALIVE

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M-morphine

SOMEBODY SAAAVE MEEE!

>They could have suggested he was going to say/thinking mother by simply saying "you're letting him kill my moth-Artha", obviosly it wouldnt sound retarded,but it'd just be a subtle slip that would have made a better impact and saved the scene
That sounds more dumb than not stupid.
The scene it's okay in the way it is because it makes Superman saying something like that due to the shock of having a spear in his face.
He said what he said.
If he said something else then the movie could have ended like that because it wouldn't be as realistic as calling your mother by name for a situation like that
>Or even changed the fight scene where he spits it out through blows or some shit
He had a spear in the face

Christ thats an ass.

Or, you know. Don't base the resolution of an already retarde conflict on a piece of meaningless trivia that requires a scene that basically doesn't work.

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brehs.

Based

Yes, he should have said "save my mother" which ends up showing Bruce that Superman is a real human bean just like him.

If you take out Wonder Woman, Doomsday, the justice league set up and have Bruce kill Superman here, you would've had kino.

this
mother is a far more powerful word