Now that the dust has settled, was this film quadrilogy kino? Or did it jump the shark after the first film?

Fake bullshit. The real Ip Man never got into fights. He was just a little Chinese man.

real chinese martial artists basically got btfo by europeans with guns

the same way Americans glorify themselves in war films, every country does this propaganda shit in films. What's your point?

Everything after the first sucks. Donnie Yen is getting old and he was very clearly less physically involved as they went on. Because of this the action never peaks beyond the first one on top of the writing getting worse as they go on. The bad guy's motivation is hilariously terrible in the last one too. They literally get into a fight over a high school bullying incident. Plus the bad guys are racist towards everyone except the Japanese.

This isn't a matter of glorifying. It's a matter of straight up lying. The little Chinese man never got into fights. The entire series is completely made up bullshit.

Are you trying to tell me that the real Ip Man didn't fight off like 50 cleaver-wielding guys in a fish market?
I don't believe you.

He didn't even have one-on-one fights. He wasn't a fighter, just a kung fu teacher.

3 is the only decent watch in terms series. Everything else can just be viewed fight scene by fight scene.
Draw with Tyson, Wing Chun vs Wing Chun climax. No cringy CHINA STRONG plot steering everything.

3 also happens to be the only one the features Wing Chun as well. Entry level at that.

reminder the chinese government ruined this man life for exposing this fake crap.

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This! I used to do wing tsun myself and listened to all the " we can't fight in competitions because we could kill someone" bullshit.

Having taken up boxing since last year, I feel I have learned more in my 1 year time span, even from a combat context than many of these wing chun practitioners.

>stance
>foot movement
>how to actually throw a punch
>block/parrying
>spacing

It's crazy how simple but practical boxing is by comparison.

Whats happening to him is bullshit but I'm not going to pretend this guy himself isn't a bit of a piece of shit himself.

>throws challenges at guy who are in their fifties, trains in advance personally and gives them a day or two before the fight.

I don't give a fuck how good you are, if I challenged an ex boxer who hasn't fought or exercised in 30 years to a fist fight tomorrow, meanwhile I'm training daily, I'll win hands down. He did it to himself to promote his gym, and it bit him on the ass because china doesn't like his attitude, and the 'woowoo' story around him being made over here is nauseating to say the least.

yeah, the story is a bit biased. I mean, if you're a reasonably fit guy who's been training, you could probably challenge old masters pretty easily considering they're well past their prime. I don't see him challenging anyone near his age.

Never thought of the story like that. Interesting view, refreshing even.

Why is Chinese martial arts such utter shit when their neighbours created some of the most efficent ones that exists? Muay thai, judo, jiu jitsu. Wtf is the deal with china specifically? Were there really no contact between them and other asian martial artist?

You're right. Most chinese martial arts have devolved over time desu. Jeet Kune Do is the only modernized Chinese martial art.

Good fight scenes but story wise, they turned wing chun into some kind of gary stu martial arts where its all humble and shit but could destroy ANYONE and never loses, and the only moment that they had to put Wing chun at a bad light, they made it so that its another practitioner, not Ip man who uses wing chun for bad things

>Jeet Kune Do is the only modernized Chinese martial art.

and its because they copy other arts and smack JEET KUN DO on it

Tell me about your experience in martial arts.

Tbqh it was probably way more focused on efficiency back in the days before it was outlawed by Mao. What we see today is mostly nationalist larp by the chinese in the "muh ancient arts" way. Hong Kong were the only ones who kept on practising styles like kung fu

I did 4 years of boxing and went 26 fights. I trained muay thai for a bit but nothing serious. Kung fu is a dogshit karate tier fighting style

NOOOOOOOOO NOT MY CHINKKINO BRATTUU PRISUUUUU

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So you literally know nothing. Also
>boxing
>martial art
Kek

Tell me what is a martial art then?

Cope. Muay thai, boxing, and jui-jitsu is without a doubt the most efficent fighting styles that exists that you can actually compete within

You DO know that 4 of the gracies were utterly BTFOD by a pro wrestler right?

Furthermore, have you wver heard of the Oyama/Lumpinee challenge?

Yes, that's why all mma fighters train karate and not boxing and bbj right? Fucking cope, you weeb. Your tai-chi classes were a waste of time and money and you would get demolished by any half decent boxer or judo practiser

Gracie hunter trained in judo, muay thai, and wrestling. It is shown that pure brazilian jiu jutsu can lose to someone training multiple fighting styles at once.

The movie suffered the same issue that John Wick did. Both were great action movie with pretty simple, straightforward but heartfelt story. Both got carried by great action choreography. Both should have been one off standalone movie with a completed story. However, the sequel added on make the story even more convoluted and bloated. The fight scenes, trying to one up the previous fight, get more and more ridiculous and overboard but with the same “style” so it get old eventually.

This is why I hate you guys, you're essentially the fedoras of combat sports except with tapout shirts instead of hats.

The first UFC was essentially an infomercial for gracies jiu-jistu and then dana white basically sold you shoot boxing/pancrese as a new thing except branded it with "effectiveness" and other bullshit buzzwords. Kickboxing had been mixing moves and techniques from muai thai, taekowndo, karate and boxing since the 60s when guys like Joe Lewis and Co introduced it to the public. Everything they've been yammering about for the last fifteen years has been known since Gene Lebell beat a boxer on live TV in 1963.

How many things have been said to be useless in a fight by mma experts by now? I remember it being said that kicks were useless in a fight. Kicks proved useful so the narrative changed. Now only high kicks are useless in a fight. Uh oh, head kicks start knocking people out so the narrative is changed again, only spinning kicks are useless in a fight then, low and behold, those were also proved to be useful, what do we say now!? Do you remember when Judo was laughed at as a useful form of combat? I sure do. Do you remember Randy couture was knock out by a crane kick of all thing? Are you realizing you might have drunk some cool-aid given to you by Joe Rogan now? Most likely not.

No he didn't. He trained at a PRO WRESTLING DOJO, he calls himself a PRO WRESTLER. He took catch wrestling in high school but thats circular since the foundations in learning how to do pro wrestling is in catch wrestling. You can even read his bloody wikipedia page, its that easy. He didn't travel to thailand to learn how to kick down banana trees.

Do you know that the entire faux concept (gaudy tattoos and everything) or mma and its image is completely alien to non anglo nations? Its bullshit marketing by a company owned by the mafia.

>a Kung fu master never fought anyone
Reminds me of the Futurama episode where someone says to become a chess grandmaster you must play at least one game of chess

I hear a lot of projection but no substance, what are you even rambling about? That there annoying stans larping as martial art geniouses in mma? Yeah there is but atleast it's a sport susceptible to progress unlike fucking wing-chun or whatever. Fyi i'm not even into mma, i watch boxing. But i will still accept that the sport that allows nearly all fighting styles to compete with eachother will with all probability be the most efficent one. Simmer down, weeb

there was a news long ago that it was confirmed that jackie would be on it?
what happened?

>I hear a lot of projection but no substance, what are you even rambling about?

MMA is bullshit nigga. Its a marketing trick from fraudsters selling people a much less effective form of fighting then if they went to the real deal. Its why the only real Mixed martial artist to be a champion in UFC was George St.Pierre.

>That there annoying stans larping as martial art geniouses in mma?

The problem is the guys selling the product are saying the exact same thing as the plebs pretending to know what they're talking about. If someone tells you headkicks are ineffective on a fight it should ring warning bells in your head.

>Yeah there is but atleast it's a sport susceptible to progress unlike fucking wing-chun or whatever.

If I remember correctly, wing chun (or tai chi, I can't remember which) is an integral part in training fighters in sanda. How does that do in competition?

>Fyi i'm not even into mma,
Then why are you talking about this faggot?

>i watch boxing.
Do you box? Have you boxed against a guy whos done """mma""" boxing? Trust me, its like watching a kid who thinks he can break dance try and break dance.

>But i will still accept that the sport that allows nearly all fighting styles to compete with eachother will with all probability be the most efficent one.

There is no most "effective one" and this retarded idea that no ones ever cross trained is completely asinine. I guess I need to reiterate that people, coaches and trainers, would say how ineffective judo was in a fight.

>Simmer down, weeb
Nigga please, i don't need you pretending your small dick becomes big dick on Ethiopian fly catching forum.

let's face it the kinds of people who want to step in a ring and get their brains mulched to feel big aren't the brightest bunch. Ignorance is on both sides, and so is ineffective training regimes which are business models rather than combat training.

This is the pure essence of cope.
>boxing is not martial art
Yeah I am sure that sending waves of chi on someone standing 15 feet away is the only real martial arts.

yeah it would probably be fairer to face a younger student who has time to train, though kung fu trainers do claim to be very able fighters even at an older age because of qigong exercises which is meant to promote health. I think the main issue is what the masters expect, they don't go in thinking they are going to fight a boxer and so give him a lot of space. Even at 50 they could be very good grapplers, I've known some old dudes who can throw you around quite easily with push hands and grapples.

>Should have mentioned his drug addiction.
Or him being a Kuomintang officer persecuted by the Chinese communist party

Haven't seen the last one yet so not sure. The first one is by far the best though.

Watched the first movie, hated it because the mary sue MC literally never gets hit. Never watched the sequels though I usually love martial arts flicks.

>do i box?
Yeah i went 26 fights, won 19. I also did the obligatory army training that my country has and was trained in hand to hand. Boxing is an extremely efficent part of it. You just hit with your palms instead of your fists
>why are you talking about mma then?
Because you become a pissy little bitch when someone calls out your bullshit weeb wing-chun style and compares it to an efficent sport like muay thai or boxing
>mma is full of bullshit marketers
Yeah, so are all new and popular sports. Same thing with judo and karate in the 70s. Normies will pay good money for bullshit and bullshiters take profit
>there is no effective one
This is the definition of cope wtf did you even mean by this?

get fucked chink

Sanda?

Looked it up. I admit i had never heard of this one. Wtf is the chinese gov doing shilling bullshit like kung fu instead of this? They could actually compete internationally with this

best martial arts quintology btfo youtu.be/RkIcmr8NxRg

I love martial arts movies.

Or how he sent away his wife and children to China where they had to stay forever until she died all alone, while he was enjoying his life and fucking his mistress in Hong kong

>Yeah i went 26 fights, won 19.
I honestly really doubt it, I'm pretty sure you'd start crying the first time you ended up loosing. When you say shit like
>Because you become a pissy little bitch
It sound like something that comes out of a insecure adult victim of child molestation. Stop it, get some help.
>when someone calls out your bullshit weeb wing-chun style
Wasn't even talking necessarily about wing chun, I was talking about mma is just the market brand of shoot and pancrease.
>and compares it to an efficent sport like muay thai or boxing
God theres so much retard in this statement
> Same thing with judo and karate in the 70s.
And look what happened to american karate.
>This is the definition of cope wtf did you even mean by this?
Okay, so lets take you. You know when your getting your supplemental manhood (tattoo, stupid haircut, whatever) and you think that it will get a boyfriend free girl who will love you like your uncle used to in the gas station bathroom, while the guy next to you gets a similar yet different haircut?
Alright, so you two go up to a girl and she goes to him rather then you. You think your haircut is much better because its more manly and cooler then his. The fact is that its probably not, you built it up in your mind and the other guy was just a much better person then you.

Thats what I mean: different styles (haircuts) don't equel success but the different person using it.

>If I remember correctly, wing chun (or tai chi, I can't remember which) is an integral part in training fighters in sanda. How does that do in competition?
Sanda is cool. But I've trained wing chun and honestly, it wasn't that good. Maybe that's why we have yet to see big chinese champions emerge in kickboxing and mma leagues, because they waste time with wing chun when they could spend it training something better

>y-y-you're just a dudebro manbaby! You prolly have tatoos and an ugly haircut!
Fucking hard fedora tip, my supreme gentleman
>when you say things like pissy little bitch
You are a pissy little bitch. I read every one if your coping novel sized posts in the voice of Chris Colfer. Pic related is my medals
>there's no such thing as efficent martial arts! It's different for everybody!
Yeah and some people can beat men with swords with a butter knife. That's just semantics. Cut the shit and tell us what tai-chi bullshit sport you think would be the most efficent so we can shit on that instead

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>Thats what I mean: different styles (haircuts) don't equel success but the different person using it.
I don't get what you're trying to defend. Certain styles have proved to be good for full contact fighting and others proved to be worse. A style isn't just a set of techniques, it's also a way to train and put the technique to a test.

Dude, Muay Thai and Judo are top tier, even more so compared to things like Kung Fu.