Why do action movies suck these days compared to the past?

Overpaid old actors who can't move and young actors with zero charisma/acting ability. All these problems would be fixed if there were still actual directors but big movies are edited by the same AI these days.

Could films like True Lies even be made today?

>Why do action movies suck these days compared to the past?

Chop her fucking head off.

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How much longer can this go on until someone tells them they are asking for more than equality?

do they?

Well I think the 00s and 10s had lots of good action. What has the 20s given us so far?

Sonic the Hedgehog

The Expendables and John Wick movies are good , also The Raid you can add the fast and the furious too maybe. that's all I think. Fuck Capeshit.

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Judge Dredd.

How much of a fucking boomer do you have to be to think in terms of the 70s? That was 50 years ago.

>00s and 10s had lots of good action
care to name them?

Are you fucking kidding me? Most of the fighting in John Wick is little pew pew headshots.

Expendabes is a parody of 80's action movies
FF is capeshit

>Expendabes is a parody
Action movies are just like that, you can add most of the Jason Statham movies too

I can also think in term of 50s and 30s, retard, because my tastes aren't limited to what's current.
I can also think in term of 1800s without being the fucking Highlander, because I've read many books from that era
How much of a zoomer normie cattle you have to be to post that?

Action movies were good when you had to actually blow shit up and do everything in real life you wanted to show off in the movie.
CGI unironically killed action movies.

Kill Bill, Casino Royal, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, The Dark Knight, The Bourne Identity, XXX, The Transporter, District 13, every Mission Impossible after the first, Gladiator, X-men 1 and 2, Minority Report, 300.

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just like that NOW, maybe
Can't have anything not-ironic these days, I suppose

No it isn't.

They suck because you aren't allowed to be unashamedly masculine anymore. The slightest hint of manliness has to be followed up immediately with an apology for being so toxic, usually in the form of a fourth-wall painting quip.

Maybe if the Muslim terrorist scenes were replaced with a blonde hair blue eyed guy

>liking shit

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Die Hard did that, except it was better than any possible remake of True Lies because the bad guys were designed as suave white Europeans from the outset.

If that's what you call the low point, then Wick is pretty good overall.

Did anyone see Atomic Blonde? Was it bullshit?

Hans Gruber was amazing. There's something a lot of directors seem to forget, the actor playing your Hero might sell the film, but it's the villain that really defines it. Die Hard without Hans Gruber is a shit movie, Alan Rickman is integral to why it's good. Likewise Simon Gruber makes Die Hard 3 good.
Vigo in John Wick helps make it such a good film, and in contrast the bad guy in John Wick 2 (what the fuck even was his name?) completely lets it down.
Hell, an even better example: Predator.

Your villain is just as, if not more important than your hero. and everyone seems to forget that nowadays.

A strong hero without an equally strong and interesting villain is worthless. It's what feminist action movies get wrong. Making the villains incompetent fools will not make the girls look better.

Fair enough.

No love in the art
Discovered the other day the backstage footage of lord of the rings were they were rehearsing camera tricks
Not like testing the equipment, but actually spending time, money and film recording stuff that is never going to be on the movie, but that it would help the movie

1. People dont know how to make action films these days, it's an lost art.
2. They arent filming action as much as making it seem like they have. (Shaky cam, snap zoom, fast paced cuts, close ups.)
3. Lack of competent action actors.
4. Money, insurance, liability. Studios just wont let people take any sort of risks in their productions these days.
5. Reliance on CGI (CGI explosions, gun shots, blood, impacts, fire, car crashes etc)

Mad Max Fury Road was the last proper action movie in recent time, and it wasnt even a great film, it was just the last proper display of an actual action film director and crew exhibiting their craft.
People still hold a thumb on John Wick but it's just as bogged down with the same problems as the rest of the action genre as the rest of them.
The recent Mission Impossible and Tom Cruises dedication to the craft is the death throes.

Even asian cinema, which used to be the last haven for pure action movies are copying Hollywoods worst habits now.

The action genre is dead.

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It was ok. It shines mostly in comparison with the shitty rest

The expendables fucking sucks. CGI blood? fucking amatuer hour shit. John Wick is fine but the only amazing action film of the last decade was Mad Max Fury Road

Oh and
6. Sound. Seems like nobody doing post vfx in hollywood these days have ever actually shot a gun in their life. A gun shot should ALWAYS be the loudest thing in the scene. The only exception is if there is an explosion.

>The action genre is dead.
same as sci-fi

You clearly didn't see John Wick 2 in the cinema.

globalism
gotta appeal to those lowIQ shitskin fucktards or you get no money
in a parallel universe where white people nuked all the non-whites right after discovering nukes, I am currently enjoying the kinoest kinos you could dream of, while sipping on the nectar of the gods as my spaceship zooms around the moon

MMFR has great action, but it's a one trick pony and has no interesting dialogues or characters (Furiosa is interesting until half movie)
In the end it felt flat and somewhat boring

I don't think we watched the same film. The thing is a non stop action ride with actual practical effects and real stunts. It totally shat on every other action film for the last 15 years but sadly failed to do well enough at the box office for the execs to sit up and take notice

It's a matter of dynamics.
Compare
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01:45

To this.
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The fact that John Wick can fire a gun at a concert and nobody in the audience besides those in his imediate surroundings notice untill the bodies stack up tells me that the script writers and sound editors dont know what the fuck they're doing.

It isn't a concert, it's a rave, and it's completely believable because raves regularly blast music at well over 120db.

holy shit stop coping

Sure thing Reverse-MovieBlob

Only the first John wick was any good. And there is far more terrible action in capeshit than there is good

Las 15 years ofaction fims were.... unfortuate
Wht I have seen is the same action scene for two hours, led by unmemorabe characters.
It was like if T2 was 2 hours of Arnie shooting with the minigun from that window for 2 hours and nothing else. Cool for 15 min at best, then boring

Hold on a sec, you're trying to talk about in-universe hearing levels of people. You were talking about the loudness of the gunshots that we hear as the audience before. If you want to take about how people in movies should be affected by gunshots like in real life, then the main characters should always be deaf by the end of the movie.

Watching JW2 on the big screen damn near gave me hearing damage, for what that's worth. They made the gunshots as loud as cinema speakers can go. JW3 actually brought it down a notch (either that or i actually was just deafer).

>It isn't a concert, it's a rave, and it's completely believable because raves regularly blast music at well over 120db.
Nigga, a handgun produces noise upwards to 140 decibel and the decibel curve is exponential meaning 140db is X amounts times louder than 120db.

A gunshot cuts straight through the sound of a PA system full blast. No contest.

And no club or venue would play music louder than 115 decibel. At most you would experience 110 decibels which is fucking loud, that's you have to yell to talk to anyone right next to you loud.

it's a non stop 2 hour car chase of course but i really think you need to watch it again. Theres no way it gets stale. It just keeps ramping up until the finale

Is that your security blanket phrase? The fact you're clutching it says all it needs to say.

i agree with this guy desu. John Wick is slick but pretty dumb and unbelievable in its action scenes

>Nigga

Opinion invalidated because you're trying to sound black to give yourself street cred.

That's because the current trend in sound design when it comes to gunshots is making them sharper, not punchier.

They stack alot of metallic sounds and hard transients on top of regular gun shot sounds to.. make them sound more tacticool I guess.

>Get BTFO
>Immediately start cope-posting
Yas Forums is that you?

You need to be 18 or older to post here, kid.