Reminder that Gandalf was a freeloading bum who just wandered around smoking weed and mooching free food...

Does he really need that much fire?

Fellowship of the pipe

YOU. SHALL NOT. TAX!

Was it ever confirmed that its weed?

Reminder that the most Sauron could be charged with is disturbing the peace and holding a parade without a permit.

he was also the strongest man in the world, so who gives a fcuk

if you were overleved to fuck in a fantasy world youd probably to the same thing just wandering around doing comfy shit and fucking bitches and other gay wizards

It's just tobacco but weed makes for funnier memes.

>He brought free fireworks to Bilbo's party
this.
>Fighting that Balrog
>Fighting Saruman
>Coming from the hill as Gandalf the white
>Fighting the greens screen
My man Gandalf put plenty of work in. He was never a freeloader.
>

Hackson evidently had some fun implying that it was weed, but to Tolkien it was implicitly tobacco.

those digits

Also, the ring refers to their smoking circle
>the fellowship of the ring

>Hackson evidently had some fun implying that it was weed
When exactly, they all just smoked normally.

meant explicitly

Yeah like someone tell dis nigga matchboxes exist and for him to fuck off

No, just tobacco. I wish fucking stoners would all just cease to exist. Not on the same level as trannies or niggers, but they are annoying as fuck.

Reminder 2: Gandalf was holding back his power on purpose because if he started believing he could use his immense divine powers for good he would inevitably be seduced by the One Ring and would lead an Orwellian State WORSE than the Theocracy of Sauron.

>your love of the halfling's leaf has clearly slowed your mind
plus merry and pippin act like stoners

he mastered the complex arts of wizardry after studying probably for centuries
what the fuck are you talking about? how is he a lazy bum?

Forgot about constantly dabing on Pippin.

Pippin was young and reckless or borderline retarded . Merry was much more serious when it was required They were fooling around, they werent stoners

According to the movie special features they settled on it making you “a little high” for the movies after trying a few takes off drunk/high etc

Because OP is lonely and wants attention [Spoiler], as we all.

Saruman was just talking about how Gandalf was letting his earthly desires get in the way of his mission, while actually smoking the same shit in secret because he was jealous of Gandalf

He didn't need to master anything, he was a Maia

I WAS GONNA EAT THAT SECOND BREAKFAST
BUT THEN I GOT HIGH

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Reminder that the most Saruman could be charged with is aiding and abetting a known fugitive and unlawful cloning

The movie was being a little cheeky but I think the giggling and stuff can be canonically excused through heavy nicotine buzz (remember they hadn't smoked in a long time before they hotboxed in isengard) and general hobbity good nature

salted pork O.O

Unlawful cloning wasn't a crime until Aragorn became King and Saruman couldn't be charged for a crime that didn't exist at the time.

The real question is whether Saruman had the land, and felling, rights to Fangorn forest.

I can’t be the only one who onever knew which was merry and which was pippen. I’m pretty bad with faces

Fangorn is within the jurisdiction of the lord of Isengard which Saruman was.

It may have been within his jurisdiction but is there anything (maybe in the Silmarillion) that suggests he ever obtained *felling* rights from the proper authorities.

>be British Boomer with Dwarfism, living comfy life in me Shire
>Stoner in pyjamas and KKK hat shows up at random
>he's accompanied by 12 or something Zionists, also midgets
>these crooked nose gold hoarders with a nasty language tell me we're going to retake their Promised Land from lesser peoples
>these bums vandalize my house and force me to accompany them on this Aliyah
>they end up killing an endangered species of flying lizard, genocide the inhabitants of the promised land and then establish their own ethnostate there
>this little adventure also inadvertently caused a Weapon of mass destruction to get loose and a massive destructive war to occur later
What the fuck was their problem?

He's based on a myth of Odin wandering from place to place. In many Celtic, Gaelic and Scandinavian type places it was considered a matter of morals and honour to give a traveler a roof to sleep under and some food when you have some to spare. To refuse them their shelter would be scandalous. In return the man would repay you however he could before leaving. They went so far as to even house Romans, though they often forgot to pay and tried to fuck their wives. Similarly Gandalf would give those he stayed with something in return for their hospitality.

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I think being an angelic agent of God on earth justifies him a fair bit.

Bilbo later spent the entire rest of his life gloating about his adventure and wishing he were strolling through mountains rather than dealing with shitty relatives. So Gandalf was right to get him to join.

Well when Tolkien wrote the books I don’t think recreational cannabis smoking was a thing

He advised kings, did magic tricks and spells, went on few suicide missions and physically defended castles and shit. The least they could do is to give the man some grub ffs

Obviously British pastoralism is quite evident in Tolkien's depiction of the Shire, but was the characters of Bilbo and Frodo also a comment on how this insular country living cannot be an escape from the wider world?

It was hard for me too, but Eowyn's phrase "courage, Merry, courage for our friends" helped me to memorize. Merry is a more level-headed one, and Pippin is the silly one (he dropped the skeleton in Moria and later looked into the palantír which is why Gandalf took him to Minas Tirith).

I always thought the movies gave the impression that Middle Earth was very empty. Like great expanses of wild territory with no settlements. Was this intentional?

If Eru Ilavatar didn't want us to smoke these herbs, he wouldn't have sung them into existence.
Now light that shit

Why didn’t the allies just drop a bomb on hitler?

Isn't Gandalf's entire job to keep an eye on middle Earth? That's why he was always wandering around and investigating things like Bilbo's ring.

That's how the books are too. The story takes place in an era where the greatness of the past has dwindled down to near extinction.

It is. And it is even more obvious in the books, its essentially a post apocalyptic world on the decline, where the mightiest kingdom and warrior wouldnt hold a candle to their equivalent in the second or first age. Or even the beginning of the third. Prince Imrahil comments on how Aragorn plans to assault the Black gate with a force that is smaller than the vanguard of a Gondorian army would have been in its glory days.
It is implied that the world flourishes and is repopulated under Aragorn and the Reunited Kingdom but without the magic and the mythical glory of the past. Even Aragorn himself knows this and that he is essentially the last true Dunadan king

Bombadil is their dealer

I remember seeing some lit professor do a presentation on Middle Earth on Youtube and the analogy he used was that of coming upon an ancient ruin today.

What exactly fucked up things so much during the third age? There weren't any huge wars against Satan or Satan Jr. going on until the very end.

>Was this intentional?
Yes. Huge swathes of land like Brown Lands, former Arnor, territory between the Greyflood and Misty Mountains are desolate. Many named settlements are just ruins - like Osgiliath or Annuminas, Fornost and Tharbad in Eriador.

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That makes me love him even more.

So was Saruman in a sense right when he claimed that now was the age of industry? The age of magic and elves and shit is gone, so now man and his technology takes the stage.

>holding a parade without a permit.
Explain further.

That's exactly how the movies' art department said they should make Middle Earth look like.

I don't remember the details, but it's more that magic is just slowly leaving the world over the centuries.

He could have been right but Tolkien hates industry so he had him be in the wrong and get his ass kicked by literal trees and then an army of manlet farmers.

>There weren't any huge wars against Satan or Satan Jr. going on until the very end.
There's you're wrong. Third Age saw a lot of invasions by the Easterlings, orcs, Haradrim and later Umbar corsairs; in the middle of the 2nd millennium Gondor suffered from catastrophic civil war; in the 2500s Gondor would be almost destroyed were it not for the coming of the Eotheod (Rohirrim) at the field of Celebrant. That's just to name a few instances. Gondor steadily declined, Osgiliath got deserted in the aftermath of the civil war, Minas Ithil captured by the Nazgûl in 2000s.

Arnor in the north was destroyed at the end of the 2nd millennium at the hands of the Witch-King of Angmar.

Yeah, but that shouldn't have really affected the men realms which were also decaying a lot.

The civil wars of Arnor and later the fight of the successor kingdoms against Angmar devestated the population and major city centers of the norther areas
Gondor fared well for a long time, becoming the most powerful kingdom and was far larger than it currently is in the books. But, constant wars, civil wars, plagues and most importantly hubris took their toll, and by the time they started getting their shit together the Witch King and later Sauron returned and had to constantly focus on them. However they still appear to be far more populated than the North.
Rohan is a pretty young kingdom by Middle Earth standards and after Saurons fall they expanded on once empty lands and "multiplied exceedingly"
Many of the empty lands were kingdoms and cities of the elves who scattered during the wars of the second age and fucked off to the west after Saurons first fall. The ones remaining are pretty much the hardcore autists who dont handle separation and homesickness well.
We dont know much about the eastern and southern kingdoms
Yes but he was a massive dick about it

have sex

The entire middle age lore is conceived as a faux-mythical tradition of the mythological founding days of a culture, like for example the Edda and other sagas. Its not strictly "alternative fiction", but middle earth is supposed to more or less fade into our world in the fourth age, after the magic has disappeared. Like bridging the temporal gap between people telling each other stories about god's and giants, which obviously happened an indeterminate "long time" ago, since nobody has ever seen a god or a giant roaming around outside.

I WAS GONNA EAT YO TOMATO TOO
BUT THEN I GOT HIGH