Will they age well like the prequels?

Will they age well like the prequels?

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Only TLJ will be remembered fondly

No. Say what you want about the prequel, but at least they didnt kill off Luke.

I don't know about fondly but people will eventually realise that it was Abrams that ruined everything, not Rian.

>a fucking GALAXY
>every event revolves around 5 people
NOOOOOO THE HECKIN LUKERINO

That's really odd to imagine but definitely true. Even now there's a real fanatical love surrounding it that I can't understand but accept.

Unless somewhere down the line we get some RLM-styled video essay going through the movie point by point that details how it raped people's childhoods that catches like wildfire.

Blame Disney. I was all down with leaving the original cast alone or giving them small roles, but instead Disney wanted to kill them all to prop their terrible characters up.

There were video essays by the dozen before 24 hours of it's premier that shit all over it. There's never going to be another Plinkett phenomena because too many rip-offs already exist.

>>a fucking GALAXY
Star Wars is literally just about Anakin/Luke. There was never meant to be an expanded universe.

Fpbp

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this, it isn't star trek

based

it won't be. When BTS docs show everyone questioning Rians choices you know it's gonna be looked as the turd it is for all eternity. It's just like the prequels, it's repeating itself, like poetry.

>It's just like the prequels
Did you actually watch the BTS docs for the prequels? Or did you just watch the parts cherrypicked by RLM?

The problem is that there was a defense force for TLJ right from the start, so I don't think it'll be considered underrated until maybe 20 or so years. It'll probably be better regarded than JJ Abrams' films.

I watched them all before I even knew of RLM. I don't need them to point out the obvious.

No, the prequels offered a new side of the universe ripe with designs for spinoffs and toys and a story that was at the very least complete and planned. The sequels feature a meandering non-existent story with barely any new designs and only a small handful of what could be considered cool characters. The era is just a worse galactic civil war that is ultimately hollow and adds almost nothing to the universe. Spinoff media is practically nonexistent. Most importantly while the prequels dominated children’s pop culture with little competition, the sequels are completely overshadowed by marvel.

Being from the same franchise doesn’t just mean history will repeat itself. The conditions surrounding the trilogies is extremely different.

Fuck no

>age well like prequels
Lmao, shut the fuck up millenial

>Even now there's a real fanatical love surrounding it that I can't understand but accept.
It’s more like a cult. These “fans” latched onto it because nerdiness is trending and the biggest franchise in he world getting progressive was very important to their agendas. While some were perhaps fooled into thinking it was a good movie by the flashy visuals and brisk pacing keeping them from questioning it, ultimately the big factor is that a lot of “fans” turned it into a political battle. They made it an issue of morality and sunk themselves so deep into it that now they can never admit it was bad for risk of being a bad person. Notice how their defense of its quality always hinges on some vague themes that magically make the movie good just for supposedly being included.

>ITT: It's 2032

APOLOGIZE

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No.
Because unlike the prequel it didn't add anything to the universe. People forget but the way we think about the Jedi and their fighting style largely comes form the prequels. Maul vs Obi-Wan and Qui Gon Jinn being the first fight of full powered force users.

None of these movies will be remembered fondly. Pseuds will continue to say TLJ is kino because "muh Rian Johnson", but in reality the only really good thing about all three movies is Kylo Ren's character and Adam Driver's performance, which makes up 90% of the character.

I'm a millennial and I saw the prequels in theaters.

This. The movies themselves will be forgotten, Kylo Ren lives forever.

>Will they age well like the prequels?
no they have no story to tell and retroactively ruined all of star wars with their bullshit

>Only TLJ will be remembered fondly
i could see this because of the collective drama surrounding it the movie itself however is just trash. it will be a example for bad writing for decades to come though

>Prequels - A flawed trilogy with bad acting and dialogue, but full of soul from the direct vision of the original creator of Star Wars that establishes canon which is widely accepted as true
>Sequels - A soulless cash grab trilogy desperately trying to validate its own existence that has hilariously inconsistent plot, pacing issues for days, bad characters, and is only "liked" by shippers and man children
You tell me

TLJ is bad, but it's bad in the same way the prequels were. Just kind of baffling and frustrating. The JJ movies are nothing. They have absolutely nothing to offer, nothing that will be worth discussing or arguing about 10 years from now. I'd be surprised if anyone will talk about the sequel trilogy at all, but if they do, it'll probably be about TLJ. Whether fondly or with vitriol will probably depend on how bad the franchise gets in the coming years.

>Will they age well like the prequels?
The prequels didn't age well, and you know that.

This, pretty much. TFA was nonsense and RoS was just a horrible mess. TLJ just got lots of hate from JJ Abrams fanboys who thought that mystery boxes are great storytelling.

>obvious troll thread

Yeah, normies and kids love Kylo Ren. I see normies all the time say that despite the movies getting hate, the one thing everyone can agree on is liking Kylo Ren.

It's because of shitposts like yours that rational people see through all that manufactured outrage. 20 years from now, you and Mauler will be the laughing stock of anyone who studies the history of film, and the prime example for why audience rating sites are regarded as a failed experiment.

>The prequels didn't age well
They started looking better the day TLJ was released.

Ah, so you're unable to criticise films on their own. Really doesn't make any of your opinions seem worthwhile, you know ...

The Prequels were terrible. They only clarified that Lucas was not the brains behind what made the original trilogy great.

He was too focused on subverting expectations than telling a good story. It is obvious that Rian has zero interest in any Star Wars character. He thinks people who like Star Wars are only little kids.

Nah critics shilled that movie until the last man, the movie would need to actually be good to become a cult classic if it had so much support and as we all know TLJ is a piece of shit. BvS is a better candidate

nice bait, yo. Take your (you) and fuck off

The prequels actually had something to say.

The Franchise has been bad ever since Episode 1 came out. The problem is that Stat Wars fans are desperate for good Star Wars to the point of praising the comic books or cartoons.

>He was too focused on subverting expectations than telling a good story.
No, he was too focused on telling a good story to cater to your fanboy expectations. You got the film you begged for with episode 9.

Graphic wise? Yes.
On everything else? Fuck, that's a loaded question.

> good story
> TLJ

Pick one and only one

what was the story?
>Rey can do everything!

Rey was shown to be misarable at practically everything in TLJ. Don't copy-paste your shitty TFA criticism, and actually watch the film. Luke outs her as absolutely naive about anything concerning Jedi or the Force. And when she runs of to "save" Kylo, guess what, she fails spectacularly. From a character standpoint, there's not one single thing she succeeds at in TLJ.

the prequels were bad, not terrible. The sequels are terrible. The prequels had at least a bit of soul and creativity, despite being bad. The sequels are bad AND a soulless cash grab, which makes them terrible.

STAR WARS DIED IN 1983

The prequels will always be bad, the first 2 sequels were ok and TROS is as bad as the prequels. I will never understand the vitriolic hatred of episodes 7 and 8.

The truth is that Rey is a Mary Sue in TLJ, but Rey in TROS is so much fucking worse that it makes people think she was fallible in TLJ.

>that it makes people think she was fallible in TLJ.
She WAS fallible in TLJ. What didn't she fail in? Name one thing that isn't just "she managed to not die in a swordfight" or "she managed to lift a few rocks". No, user, name one thing that she had on her personal agenda during the film that she didn't utterly fail at.
Becoming a Jedi? Nope.
Bringing back Luke from his exile? Nope.
Turning Kylo to the light? Definitely nope.
She fails at every single thing she sets out to do. She's shown to be stupporn and naive, and to know nothing about what she thinks she talks about. Granted, she does learn a few things, but much more than that, she makes mistakes and blunders.

Yet did she suffer for any of those?
Luke got his hand cut off because he tought he was good enough and he didn't save everyone.
Fuck, she got captured in episode 7 and as a result she learned how to use the fucking force without training.

Her "failures" don't in TLJ don't count, because they are never addressed and she is never punished for them.

>Luke doesn't want to train her and is mean to her
>story says he's just a mean old man and was wrong to ever doubt her, ends up putting all his faith in her in the end even though she sucks

>fails to turn Kylo
>it's all Kylo's fault for not listening to Rey, she even shuts the door in his face, not ever acknowledging her own fuckup and all the blame is put on Kylo. it's his fault he didn't turn, not Rey's.

Her "failures" are made out to be everyone else's failings in the end. She is never portrayed as being wrong in the end.

The only good thing about TLJ is that Kylo Ren absolutely mogged her in every aspect, and he was more of a protagonist than she could ever be. TROS is just pretending Kylo doesn't exist and Rey being more of blackhole than ever.

No.

It is inarguably the worst trilogy in modern film history.

Rise of Skywalker is shockingly bad. Bordering on unwatchable. TLJ is well made, but ruins the series with bad story decisions.

TFA is nothing.

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based

Based micks.

>there are still people that think TLJ is a bad movie

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>Yet did she suffer for any of those?
Certainly. She got tortured by Snoke and had to deal with massive psychological trauma.
>Luke got his hand cut off because he tought he was good enough and he didn't save everyone.
That's not "suffering". It's a wound. And a setup for RotJ's finale.

>Her "failures" don't in TLJ don't count, because they are never addressed and she is never punished for them.
They are addressed just as much as Luke's failures in TESB are addressed. Because she fails, Kylo Ren becomes even more convicted in his endeavours. You can't blame TLJ that Abrams is unable to follow up on that (like Trevorrow would have).

>Her "failures" are made out to be everyone else's failings in the end.
That's bullshit. Luke is not wrong for doubting her: She proves all his doubts correct. And, no, it's not Kylo's fault that she thought that she could turn him. That's hers.

I still have absolutely no idea how people can love TLJ and Rey's """character development""" in that movie, but unfortunately it seems apparent that those are the only parts of the sequels that normies will get nostalgic about.
God the whole trilogy was such a garbage state of affairs. TFA was an empty flashy nostalgia affair, TroS said "fuck it" and didnt even bother with plot or lore and was basically just a Michael Bay movie, and TLJ only stands out because of every single scene being such a mess that it's baffling instead of simply bad.

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Incredibly poorly? Yes.

>TLJ is well made, but ruins the series with bad story decisions.
Those are some excellent story decissions. You just need someone following up on them in a meaningful way. Yes, it's out of place between two of Abrams' fan-pandering mystery box collages. But what was Johnson to do? Abandon everything he knew about storytelling and cater to the "fandom"?

Nobody likes Rey.

She’s a nonentity with no character arc and no flaws. She’s nothing

Normies do, mostly because they've been told to
You are right though. Her defining features are that she's the best at everything ever and there's nothing the evil space nazis can do to stop her.

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