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Spoonfeed me a method of learning kanji. The anki decks just show a kanji and tells me the reading. Would i just continue guessing until i memorize it? Which part do i look at?
Carson Rogers
On another note, when I finally understand how to correctly do this shit should I just learn all the 220 jouyou kanji before even starting other stuff? I'm completely fine with that.
Caleb Nguyen
kanji are build from "building blocks" called radicals. you can pay attention to the radicals to distinguish kanji
or just learn the kanji along with vocabulary, thats what people usually do. isolated studying usually is not recommended
Charles Bailey
You need to first learn radicals and then you need to find a mnemonic to remember the reading/meaning. Like a story with the radicals.
on another note, spoonfeeding is generally not welcome here
Ryder Evans
I've read a bit about it but I think it's hard to grasp the concept currently. Which readings am I supposed to learn? and you know what. Do you have a good resource to understand kanji? like everything there is to know. I'm a bit stupid it seems.
Anthony King
For like 90% of the kanji you need to learn On'yomi and kun'yomi and learn when one is used. Standalone kanji = kun'yomi, jukugo word = On'yomi. For other kanji its either just one or more of them. Probably the deck will have all relevant readings listed. Also when you learn words you need to remember how a word is read so this is done a per word basis which sometimes has weird readings and exceptions.
Kayden Garcia
honestly there are quite a lot of resources out there on this topic
So currently I know kana and about 150 words right and I have a guide I like generally from itazuraneko. Here's a pic of my problem, there's just too many readings. Are the big ones the only necessary?
if you are curious about percentages i think there is a anki deck out there that actually has all the readings of a kanji with their respective ratios
but you should only learn the readings along with vocabulary, it doesnt make sense to learn them isolated
David Evans
I think you have bad deck. It doesn't say which are kun'yomi and on'yomi and it has all the possible inflections which is totally unreasonable to learn as standalone word. The readings you should learn is イチ,イツ and ひと which are the on'yomi and kun'yomi. For example reading いっ its really easy to learn when you know the reading イチ. This reading is used when putting 一 to another kanji and the つ is kinda shortened. For example in word 一回 readings いつ+かい are transformed to いっかい which kinda makes sense.
Justin Sullivan
You see, I might actually be fucking retarded and I realize that just now. Now I'm super confused, How would I learn along with vocabulary? find word, then learn the kanji for it?
I will look for a new deck. That does make complete sense, what seems very difficult though is when the 一 is put somewhere inside of another kanji but I assume it's just like learning a new one then. Are most kanjis when put together like the example いつ+かい? That would make things a little less scary at the very least. (i'm sure its not though:
Levi Ramirez
you basically just learn vocabulary with the corresponding reading. you then automatically connect the pronunciation to the respective kanjis in your brain. you will notice that sometimes the kanji has a different pronunciation and remember it as well. that way you will learn the readings that you ACTUALLY need on the way rather than learning unnecessary ones isolated, see?
Gavin Phillips
Mostly it's the same reading. Sometimes it differs a bit but you learn this when you learn a word. You should definitely also learn vocabulary alongside kanji as sometimes two kanji put together mean something completely different. The word bento which is boxed lunch as you probably already know if you watch anime is written 弁当. The first kanji means "dialect" and second means "correct" which if you don't know the word and just know the kanji it wouldn't make any sense. But a lot of times the words make sense. For example 一夫多妻 means polygamy, and the kanji in order mean "one", "husband","many","wife".
Sorry I'm an idiot. I understand that I should learn vocabulary with the same reading as the kanji I'm learning but I didn't really understand the rest. How can I match up the kanji and word though?
Yes thank you. When you get to the word bento in your vocabulary study do you then also look up the corresponding kanji? The polygamy example is good because I assume you can kind of guess the meaning if you know each kanji,but that would never work for bento so yea, is that why you learn a word and then its kanji?
I started out doing Wanikani which a lot of people here despise. They make you memorize a single on or kun reading for a Kanji up front, but then teach you a bunch of words for each where the readings might differ. It works for me so I stuck with it. On top of that I did the core 6k deck to completion, just memorizing vocabulary. Between those two resources combined I got an okay foundation for Kanji. The rest is all practice. Some people really care about ramping up their Kanji counters for their dickwaving contests however and I'm not one of them. So I don't really make an effort to memorize every single Kanji I might ever come across. There's time enough to spaz out with Kanji knowledge when you're competent in the language.
