Birthplace of western civilization

Beautiful Greece

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Well made houses desu, shame about the aesthetics, its like they forgot what's an architect.

It makes sense Athens looks like a shithole, when Greece gained independence Athens was just a small village, don't know why they picked Athens (a small village) instead of Thessaloniki (an actual city)

DELETE THIS

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what happened bros?

It got TURKED

Thessaloniki was liberated in 1912

>western civilization
never understood this
is it western culture because snow coons we wuz it?
Greece was middle eastern
it only became western when it was forcefully taken by Britain
they had all their trade with middle east
they wrote about middle east
they had middle eastern costumes
Herodotus was writing about Egypt,,north africa, Persia, Mesopotamia, and Arabia, he wasn't writing aout england and germany and sweden

This, I am Western Asian and not a eur*fag

Your kind was a minority there. It's rightful Turkish clay. We'll take it back one day

>mad cuz it was his gay president's birthplace
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forgot pic

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based and alpha

>don't know why they picked Athens (a small village) instead of Thessaloniki (an actual city)

this

they unironically werent designed by architects but by urban planner frauds acting like ones

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Athens peaked 2 times already give her a rest

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Weren't Greeks the ones who pretty much invented Europe tho?

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they invented the name, for the land mass
"Europe" was invented by americans after ww2

redpilled

The birthplace of western civilization is Iraq though

Nope.

>At its most basic, the Greek concept of the continents was a rough division of the known world into 3 equal parts. The border between Europa and Asia was at the Hellespont. The border between Europa and Libya (which we call Africa) was the Mediterranean.

>In this view, everything roughly north and/or west of what is now the Bosporus and Dardanelles was Europe. This included the lands of the Celts in Iberia and the regions north of it.

>There was also a cultural dimension to the division of the world into continents. We first see this in Aischylos' account (Persians 181-199) of a dream that Xerxes' mother Atossa supposedly had, in which Xerxes tried to yoke two women to his chariot; the women were personifications of Europe and Asia (both names are conveniently feminine in the Greek), and the dream was a metaphor for Xerxes' attempt to add Europe to his Empire. The woman representing Asia quietly accepted the yoke, but the one representing Europe, tall, fair and defiant, refused it.

>This is one of the early pieces of evidence we have for what we now call Orientalism - the tendency of European cultures to stereotype those of Asia as more docile, prone to subservience and cowardice, and ruled by cruel and perverted despots. This negative stereotype is of course intended to be contrasted with a Europe that is proudly independent, freedom-loving and ambitious.

>Already the Classical Greeks indulged to a great extent in such generalisations, characterising Asia (including the areas settled by Greeks) as mostly a "soft" land, producing weak peoples destined to be ruled by others. Europe, to their mind, was a tougher mistress, and therefore bred men destined to rule.

>Modern scholars recognise that a lot of these stereotypes were born at the time of the Persian Wars, when the Greeks first began to see themselves as a single people with a culture quite distinct from those of their Eastern neighbours.

>middle eastern
you should well be aware that Mediterranean is a far more relevant cultural category when sorting Ancient Greece, same way Iraq and the rest of the fertile crescent also have a different context in that era as well

I'd say for a rather long time, Mediterranean/Northern Euro was a far greater divide than Euro/Near Eastern, so you still have a point IMO

Greece philosophical tradition got appropriated by rome and than spread to the rest of europe, ancient Greece also had colonies in France btw. It's the foundation of western thought while the middle east completely abandoned their ties when Islam took over. Maybe you can tell me some mena philosophers to prove me wrong but the way I see it theres not much intellectual depth in the middle east

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Based fuck transalpine barbarians t b h

Not according to the Greeks.

>>In this view, everything roughly north and/or west of what is now the Bosporus and Dardanelles was Europe. This included the lands of the Celts in Iberia and the regions north of it.

Greeks were ravaged by wars for centuries

propagandizing drivel by western barbrarians

Yes. After the fall of the Empire it was not the same thing again even tho that eventually led to America