Standard Croatian = Serbian?

It all depends on what we use as a standard dialect since we're all part of the South Slavic dialect continuum.
Say we used some form of Kajkavian as Croatian, then a large part of eastern Slovene dialects would be closer to standard Croatian than to other Slovene dialects.

Based

That's cool bro but then why all of the autism about the right of minorities to learn/use Croatian in Serbia and Serbian in Croatia?

It just seems so stupid if they're practically the same anyway. For an example, the Samostalna demokratska srpska stranka in Croatia is campaigning for
"cultural and educational autonomy of Serbs in Croatia, through use of Serbian language".

Which is fucking retarded since you can't even tell if someone is talking Croatian or Serbian.

Because

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>dialect vs language

Yeah but you can't even tell if someone is speaking Croatian or Serbian, most of the time they're identical. So they're not even different dialects.

Incredibly fucking based

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When all the boomers have died, is there a chance that we could see yugoslavia 3.0?

>Yeah but you can't
You can if you are a native

No because its not the boomers fault they were idiots
When the west dies then we will have a chance for new Yugoslavia

i can easily, i think vast majority of people can

>You can if you are a native
Ok so if I go to some random town like Slunj or Ilok right now and talk to a random person on the street, how do I know if that person is speaking Serbian or Croatian to me?

unironically never heard anyone here use satnik or Evropa
maybe it's just my region
I can tell the difference between Sthokavian from west and east Slavonia very easily but I couldn't tell the difference between the dialect they speak in Vukovar and Serbian from Vojvodina.
Many people can also tell the difference between Sthokavian in Rijeka, Zagreb etc
Most other cases are Chakavian and Kajkavian hybrid dialects and people talking with heavy accents from those groups so it's easy.

those aren't really good examples, people there mixed with serbs and their dialects are very similar to croatian serbs
but yes, i can still tell apart from their accents and serbian accents, easily

>i can tell apart from their accents and serbian accents, easily
If it's so easy, then I'm sure you could describe some differences?

pronunciation and some words, the differences aren't big but still noticeable if u're native

Is this sentence in Serbian or Croatian?
"Možete razgovarati sa mnom na engleskom"

not enough to say, i need to hear the pronunciation, on paper it can be both languages

>pronunciation and some words, the differences aren't big but still noticeable if u're native
Name on difference in pronounciation then. Not something dialectal, but something that is always true for all Serbian speakers but different for all Croatian speakers.

tonality makes a difference. on paper it's all the same.

But if it's only pronounciation that differs then it's not even different dialects, it's just different accents?

Would also add that they have a lot of other words we never use

č ć pronunciation, different words(croatians have less turcisms and more italianisms and germanisms), e/ije/i, differences
serbo croatian is the same language with tons of different dialects, yes

there are different dialects but that particular sentence is the same across the board. Serbo-Croatian doesn't use tonemes in written text, but there are a lot of uses in spoken language which makes learning the language hard for foreigners. Like said local words for certain items are different as Croatian went through the process of "slavicization" some 100 to 200 years ago. They have more latin, italian and german loanwords, while we have greek, turkish and german for the most part. Underlying language structure and grammar is the same.

>č ć pronunciation
Isn't this supposed to be the same as in Serbian in Standard Croatian?

Yes but is this really true for the basic vocabulary? See the link below

en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Serbo-Croatian_Swadesh_list

>Isn't this supposed to be the same as in Serbian in Standard Croatian?
yes but it isn't because croatians who speak ikavian and ekavian don't have a differences between č and ć while serbians do
>Yes but is this really true for the basic vocabulary? See the link below
yes