Why is the Catalan independent movement so fucking cringy? Literally commie faggots believing they are 'superior' to the rest of Spain when in reality they depend of gibs from Madrid
At least the Basques bombed the shit out of the rest of Spain and they really are hardworking and productive BVLLS
No wonder why the Spanish central gov. doesn't fuck with the Basques but laughs of c*talonian commies
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why is communism so popular in catalonia?
Catalonia is reddit: the autonomous region
Why did they copy the Puetro Rican flag?
Catalan secessionists copied the Cuban/PR flag; Basques, the Union Jack.
I think Catalonia had a short lived communist/anarchist party for a while
Those Basques were turbo communist you brain dead moron
Catalans are a bunch of insecure faggots with an ugly language. I hope they never become independent. In fact I hope madrid bulldozes over barcelona and takes full control.
They're pretending to be the spanish france, but the french hate them. They also pretend their stupid fucking language means anything. In reality its a retarded version of spanish if french took a shit all over it.
Plus they like to pretend they live hard lives and are being opressed in the same way women are opressed when a movie has a male protagonist. They are probably the most stupid people i've ever met.
January 15, 1976: ETA activists kidnap José Luis Arrasate, son of a Basque industrialist, from his home in Berriz. The family is unable to pay the ransom, and amid condemnation from various Basque groups, Arrasate is released unharmed on February 15.[30]
Spain has always been cuckholds and weak without a strong hand to guide and lead them who let everyone walk all over them.
April 1976: ETA claims responsibility for the killings of two Spanish policemen in Southern France. Later in the month, the group electrocutes guardia civil Miguel Gordo Garcia when he attempts to remove a booby-trapped Basque flag in Barakaldo.[29][31] In the same month, ETA kidnaps and kills Angel Berazadi, a Basque industrialist.[
>1976
This is right after the dictatorship though so it makes sense for Spain to be in Cuckmode.
big balls men would declare martial law in the basque country and manually place police monitoring every single citizens and crucify all who disobey and disrespect the nation as well as support for terrorism and treason.
declaring a war on terrorism well not martial law in basque country but definitely funding large amounts of spies and informants.
It's the home of syndicalism.
>30,000 arrested
Well that was victory for spain I suppose and nothing other than regular policing as well as intelligence agency was required to snuff out terrorist cells.
Pero si el partido más representado desde siempre ha sido Convergència y ahora Junts Per Catalunya. Partidos de centro derecha, el primero más conservador y el segundo más liberar. Deja de difamar y soltar mierda si no tienes ni idea. Visca Catalunya Lliure.
>Visca Catalunya Lliure.
Why do you not desire to part of Spain?
senpaiélico?
Incivilizado. Ya te gustaría tener la mitad de cultura que un catalán sintecho. Los sudamericanos colonialistas sois unos impúnicos deficientes mentales. No solo os han dejado un país hambriento y tercermundista a la mayoría sino que encima defendéis a los putos perros madrileños, que los únicos avances que han logrado y por lo único que son reconocidos a nivel internacional son por los hitos y esfuerzos del pueblo catalán, el último bastión de vida inteligente y buen gusto de la península. España está programada para autodestruirse. Catalunya y Euskadi lo conseguirán.
¿Balcanización de España? ¿No llevamos ya como 80 años hablando de lo mismo?
>España está programada para autodestruirse. Catalunya y Euskadi lo conseguirán.
Why do you feel that you aren't Spanish and are incompatible to be part of the same nation of Castillians and Aragonese?
Why do you reject Castilian when Castillians view you as their brother?
What makes you hate being part of Spain and having Spaniards protecting you and your freedoms?
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¿Y qué tendrá que ver Francia aquí? Si Francia es jacobina y centralista. Prefiero que Catalunya pertenezca a España que a Francia a día de hoy. Catalunya no quiere llevarse ningún territorio de Francia hacia su independencia, ni Valencia, ni las Baleares ni ninguna región insular italiana. Eso es propaganda española para meter en la ecuación a franceses e italianos y que reafirmen su posición con España. Es una lástima que no lo hayamos conseguido sin muertes en estos últimos cinco años. Es lo que tiene intentar dialogar con un país que ha delegado parte de su poder a la consanguinidad borbónica. Odian la democracia.
First, I hate nobody till they give me reasons to. I could vomit here an history speech but it would be long, boring and not accurate enough and I also just woke up. The thing is that we only want to have a proper referendum, just like the Scottish or the Quebecs. Why is that hard? We have our own cultural heritage and language, just like any other nation that called for a referendum. That's the thing we have been demanding. Nothing else. Let us vote. As you know we tried to 3 years ago, time flies, but they are against any kind of democracy matter that they can't control.
>We have our own cultural heritage and language
And you still have it within Spain, cultures change and are influenced by other cultures over time as they develop and interact more, Catalan culture is enriched by castillian culture.
>but they are against any kind of democracy matter that they can't control.
Catalans make up and are represented in the Senate and Cortes, as they are equal citizens in Spain with rights to live in all of Spain and influence regions with their Catalan culture, what's the problem with catalonia being part of a larger nation where their culture, language and such is protected?
If the capital of Spain was moved to Barcelona how would that make you feel?
What culture is it that you hold important of catalonia to preserve?
If Catalan was an official language 9f Spain and was taught in the entire country would that ease your worry of Catalan culture as you describe it of Catalan language being eradicated by castillian language be alleviated?
No one cares about your language only your loyalty and membership in the nation as equal citizens.
In my eyes Catalan is as Spanish as castillian and if Spaniards in Catalonia decide that Catalan is important for them then Catalan should be a national language in Spain same with Basque country and galicia, if these Spaniards view these languages as important for them then they should be national languages taught in all of the schools in Spain which shouldn't be a problem as most of them are dialects of Latin.
No soy independentista pero subrayo parte de lo que dices, España es una nación culturalmente autodestructiva. Es la nación más felizmente depresiva de la historia de la humanidad.
are the balearic islands catalan?
>No soy independentista pero subrayo parte de lo que dices, España es una nación culturalmente autodestructiva. Es la nación más felizmente depresiva de la historia de la humanidad.
Explica?
Todo de la cultura Catalan yo queria exportalo a Las provincias de españa con el lenguaje Catalan que catalans piensan que tienen valor y Las comidas/actividades catalanes.
Official documents should be written in Basque, Galician, Catalan, and Castillian as well as all signs and government posts.
Language you like to speak shouldn't let you feel as your language is not part of your nation, the home of people from.catalonia is all of Spain.
I would love to discuss all that with you in a cafeteria in l'Eixample but my day starts right now. Yeah, a Sunday, many Spaniards won't relate xD Joking apart... Many of those questions are not representative for me. I'm a pro-independence before a Catalan nationalist. I don't think that my cultural heritage is superior to others.
I like how you got so much butthurt you even forgot to speak english
and what is your native language friend?
I don't tolerate laziness and unindustrialness/indiscipline, every region should be as educated and economically productive as Basque country and catalonia.
Every city in Spain should be responsible for their development with the central state assisting in those who pay taxes to it for increased spending.
? No one has bad opinion of Catalonia and catalans
Catalonia should act like a role model and teacher to the less developed provinces teaching them how to run their economies efficiently as well as export their companies there.
What the Spanish should do, is kill, mutilate or sexually assault anyone who agitates for Catalan independence