Tell me about German regional differences. What are, for example, Bavarians, Swabians and Prussians like...

What about other Germans?

>for some reasons they get hated by nearly everyone, don't even know why
Berliners hate us for being richer than them and increasing housing prices in gentrified hipster areas
northwestern Germans (Lower Saxony, Schleswig-Holstein) are said to be cold and humorless but I think the opposite is the case
NRW is like the rust belt, used to be the industrial and mining/coal center of Germany, still the most populated state with the biggest economy
Rhineland-Palatinate has lots of whinefields and nice nature along the Rhine
Saarland is so small I know very little about it
Saxony and Thuringia have a funny (arguably the ugliest) dialect and the stereotype of being "rednecks" (populist voters), but the nature and regions are beautiful and they're recovering well since the 90s
Brandenburg, Saxony-Anhalt and MeckPomm are rural and relatively thinly settled, but have some nice towns (Magdeburg, Potsam, Wismar) and nature (Mecklenburg lake plateau, Spreewald, Baltic coast) as well

>NRW
former industrial heartland of Germany
being born in NRW must be pure suffering, like being dead while still on life support.

>Prussians don't exist anymore since the expulsions after WW2
Damn. What happened to their culture? I suppose Niederpreußisch is dead but do they have their own cultural associations or anything?

How many were killed post ww2? Do Brandenburger people feel close to Prussia?

why i left

>What happened to their culture?
went away pretty much
>do they have their own cultural associations or anything?
maybe, in the decades after WW2 the expelled Germans had big associations but most of them are dead now and the younger generations have just mixed with the other Germans
>How many were killed post ww2?
I dunno, you can read here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944–1950)
>Do Brandenburger people feel close to Prussia?
dunno, haven't been much to Brandenburg, only to Potsdam once or twice
but Brandenburg with Berlin used to be the actual center of the Prussian state so perhaps?

I am from Ruhr area (Nordrhein-Westfalen). It's known for its industrial areas and coal mines. Pretty much every city had a coal mine back then and being a coal miner is a traditional job here. My father was a coal miner and both my grandpas too. A lot of stereotypes are true.

Stereotypes:
>very straightforward
>constantly yelling
>rude (don't know what "thank you" and "please" is)
>industrial area, abandoned buildings everywhere
>everything is grey, skies are red like mordor
>coal mines, coal power plants everywhere and everyone is a coal miner
>a lot of big cities which are kinda connected so Ruhr area seems like one big megacity
>football as a religion (iconic clubs like Borussia Dortmund, Schalke 04 and VfB Bochum are from Ruhr area)
>a lot of low class people in wife beater shirts, track suits with a beer in their hand, but also a lot of bling bling
>only cuisine is currywurst and fries
>a lot of criminals
>everyone is depressed and aggressive

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you moved from NRW to NL?

There is even a term for like the typical ruhr area landscape - Ruhrpottromantik

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only opportunity i had, main difference it's a bit greener here

So 2.25 million dead according to the red cross, and up to 14 million people deported. That's really depressing numbers. Without a doubt the largest ethnic cleansing in human history.
Sad to hear that their culture is extinct too.

>but Brandenburg with Berlin used to be the actual center of the Prussian state so perhaps?
Any Branderburger in here who can confirm what they feel about Prussia?

spd has pretty much fucked up the ruhr, they lived mostly from coal and steel without anything. i really hope were will be something for the ruhr in the future.

For all the people saying Prussia is dead, while this is true, the prussian virtues are very much alive. Efficiency, austerity and discipline.

Greece has to suffer under the yoke of Prussian virtues

Imagine someone saying this about the Armenian Genocide. Ffs Hans, people died.

silly zoomer prussians dont exist anymore

NRW can be very nice sometimes. Growing up there toughens you up and prepares you for life. I study at uni in Hessen now and as soon as have a dispute with someone and I or someone else mention(s) that I am from the Ruhrgebiet, the dispute is over and everyone respects me and treats me perfectly because they think I would pull a gun otherwise.

Yes, that's true. Well, as far as I know a lot of cities in Ruhr area focus a lot on IT and media stuff now.

Hessen are nice people who like Ebbelwoi and their humour typically consists of offending each other.

>as far as I know a lot of cities in Ruhr area focus a lot on IT and media stuff now.
IT is definitely a good idea, this has at least a future.

I still can't get over the fact that millions of people were killed after the war was already over.

Do you guys commemorate their lives in any way?

Armenians didn't start the biggest war in human history or cunducted industrialized genocide before
it was a massive tragedy and I wish it didn't happen but Germany brought it onto itself

>Prussia doesn't exist anymore
I just need one train station to arrive Prussia

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>Without a doubt the largest ethnic cleansing in human history.
Nah

It kind of reminds me of the typical stereotypes we have against Southern Italy, with the difference being they are generally happy/cheerful (maybe the wheater is a factor in this) but with very low job opportunities

>Armenians didn't start the biggest war in human history or cunducted industrialized genocide before
>it was a massive tragedy and I wish it didn't happen but Germany brought it onto itself
This is true and I don't dispute any of this. Doesn't make it right tho.

>Nah
Tell me another ethnic cleansing that was larger then?

Depends how you stretch the definition. All the ethnicities of the entire Western Hemisphere’s were displaced and cleansed by foreign invaders. Australia included

yes it was
>With at least[277] 12 million[96][278][279] Germans directly involved, possibly 14 million[259][280] or more,[281] it was the largest movement or transfer of any single ethnic population in European history[279][282][283] and the largest among the post-war expulsions in Central and Eastern Europe (which displaced 20 to 31 million people in total).[278]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944–1950)#Legacy_of_the_expulsions
I didn't say it was right, I'm saying it's understandable
Germans had brought unspeakable suffering over Eastern Europe and it had consequences

>Any Branderburger in here who can confirm what they feel about Prussia?
Prussia was a composite state to begin with, Brandenburg had a long history before it. Prussia is just part of that history. A nice part, to be sure.

>Germans had brought unspeakable suffering over Eastern Europe and it had consequences
While thats true, it'd be naive to pretend that was the reason for the ethnic cleansings. Losing the war was the reason, it didn't really matter what we did beforehand. They wouldn't have spared us if we had been nice either.

Western parts of NRW and Niedersachsen seem pretty similar to what we have desu.

Are there big differences in regions? For example north and south bayern?

Inform me about Niedersachsen and Hamburg.

>They wouldn't have spared us if we had been nice either.

Stalin couldn't annex all the Ostgebiete so easily. I mean, the western Allies would oppose it more, while after death camps were discovered western allies didn't want to bother defending German interests.

Yes, North Bayern is "Franken", they feel like they should be their own state,

north Bavaria isn't actually Bavarian, it's Franconian
south Bavaria is proper Bavaria

>Depends how you stretch the definition. All the ethnicities of the entire Western Hemisphere’s were displaced and cleansed by foreign invaders. Australia included
Ok, it's the largest ethnic cleansing in modern European history.

>I didn't say it was right, I'm saying it's understandable
>Germans had brought unspeakable suffering over Eastern Europe and it had consequences
Understandable? Yes, without a doubt. What the Germans did was even worse, since their actions created the war to begin with, ans they also treated many European nations very cruelly, even including genocides.

What happened post ww2 still cannot be defended or justified. Two wrongs don't make one right. Just because germans did worse crimes against humanity, doesn't mean we should accept this one either.

Feel sad for Thuringen, no one remembers about them

Way more relevant than Sachsen-Anhalt, Brandenburg or Saarland.

>Saarland
French colony

what can you tell about
bremen
sachsen-anhalt
mecklenburg-vorpommern
saarland
I never see them being talked about

What's the ugliest German dialect/accent?

Sachsen-Anhalt and Saarland for sure, but definitely not more than Brandenburg.

>What happened post ww2 still cannot be defended or justified. Two wrongs don't make one right.
yeah I agree that it was injustice too since many civilians were collectively targeted and they didn't necessarily make themselves guilty, but it does pale in comparison to the German crimes and that's why Germany usually doesn't make a big fuss about it and instead remembers it internally

>Bavaria
traditional, catholic, farmers and rednecks, competent, arrogant
>Swabia
the stereotypical Germans, hard working, resourceful and inventive, but also autism to the max, obsessed with order and cleanliness
>Hesse
fake state created after WW2
>South-West Germany
mostly known for getting invaded and burned down by the French every couple of years before the unification
>Eastern Germany
patriotic, don't like foreigners, unfriendly, victim complex
>da Norf
stoic, taciturn, like to keep to themselves. The Hanseatic cities are liberal and open, Hamburg is rich and "diverse" (means no Germans left) while Bremen is poor as fuck and ruled by Lebanese clans.
>Ruhr
basically this
>Rhineland
used to be heavily catholic, people are known to be joyful, friendly and kind of stupid and lacking discipline
>Prussia
RIP
>Berlin
leftist gender studies students hipster homosexual asscancer globohomo techno orgies and Muslim sharia patrols in eternal graffiti commie blocks

fug, I forgot about schleswig-holstein

>What's the ugliest German dialect/accent?
All of them.

>while after death camps were discovered western allies didn't want to bother defending German interests
Absolute nonsense. Even before that they had originally planned to partition germany into smaller rump-states and divide most of its territory among our neighbours.
The realities of the post-war economy are the only reason that didn't happen.

The ethnic cleansing was already long since over by the time actual knowledge about the death camps became public knowledge.

>>Hesse
>fake state created after WW2
t. retard
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Duchy_of_Hesse
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesse-Nassau

They wish

There is literally nothing apart from Potsdam in Brandenburg and thats basically a suburb of Berlin. If they get the Tesla factor they will get more relevant tho.

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>schleswig
It's called Slesvig and it's Danish.

just a tiny speck of modern hessen

Danes are literally Northern Germans so it makes no difference.

>There is literally nothing apart from Potsdam in Brandenburg
Normally I would agree, but not when comparing it to Thüringen which is just a slightly smaller stretch of absolutely nothing. It doesn't even have a Potsdam.
Erfurt is pretty irrelevant.

Germans will say saxon, I wont because I grew up with this dialect.

If we count swiss as dialact, it would be swiss.

those two states make up pretty exactly what's now the federal state of Hesse.

>Germans will say saxon
I doubt it, unless those people have never had the misfortune of hearing someone berlinern.

>Hesse
>fake state created after WW2

You obviously mean Nordrhein-Westfalen

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People in Schleswig are Danes who voluntarily Germanized themselves because it was the culture and language of the elite. Danish kings were Germans and most of them couldn't or didn't speak German. Holstein to the south was always German as well so that double influence lead to the Germanization of Schleswig.

That was only a plan by a few people, not everyone

Germans are Industrious and quality people every city in their country is equivelant in development and advancement, there is no lazy or lagging behind cities.

Yes I am HRE and germanboo yes I hate lazy slackers and people whose cities are undeveloped.

Every city progresses itself.

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Hessen dates back to the 13th century Landgrafschaft of Hessen. If it's a fake state, then so is every single other state because non of them originally encompassed as much land as they do now

All plans are made by a few people.

>most of them couldn't or didn't speak *German
*Danish of course

>Danes are literally Northern Germans so it makes no difference.
Scandis are not germans.

There is still a Danish minority in Slesvig.

>That was only a plan by a few people, not everyone
Yes, but so was the holocaust.
Ultimately it only matters who gets their plan pushed past the point where retrating on it would be too much effort. Morgenthau plan would have gotten there if the post-war economy in europe wouldn't have been obviously completly unsalvagable without us.

>What happened post ww2 still cannot be defended or justified.

How would you solve that question then? Germany had to be punished and annexation of land was the only thing that could have been a real compensation that time, not to mention this land was always a battleground and passed between different countries over the course of history, land exchange/annexation was something very common and shouldn't be perceived as morally wrong per se.

So while we have already explained that problem, the next one is what to do with the remaining German population. Let's ask one question first - did they really WANT to stay in Poland/USSR? I'm pretty sure the vast majority of them did not. Let's not pretend how they loved their heimat so much so they would choose living in a Slavic, inherently anti-German state with much lower living standards only to be able to visit their parents graves once a year. Almost all of them would have chosen emigration even if it hadn't been forced. And since it was forced, at least they could get better treatment in Germany, where they weren't seen as annoying immigrants but as poor, oppressed expelled brothers.

So the expulsion was actually the only logical solution and couldn't and shouldn't be prevented.

I know a girl with the last name Sigafoos. I looked it up and that is hessian. She is a fucking goddess. Superior to all others in intellect and compassion

hesse isn't fake
it's one of the most authentic german states, and it was only divided previously due to dynastic divison
if you want to look at fake states, look at any of the double name ones

Thüringer Rostbratwürste alone makes Thüringen more relevant than Brandenburg will ever be. Also a shitload of historic and cultural sites. Also Harz, people actually travel to Thüringen to make holidays. Who would do that in Brandenburg?

Its not even close

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>The ethnic cleansing was already long since over by the time actual knowledge about the death camps became public knowledge.

This is total bullshit. Allied forced liberated a lot of camps during the war and knew what happened there.

>there is no lazy or lagging behind cities.
welll... thanks to communisim there is
but even that is getting tilged

The Westerners didnt genocide you though. Why are you whining about what they considered doing? Judge them by their actions instead, and by that rule they're much better than you were.

I think the resettlement of German language islands was justified, but not the expulsion of entire German-speaking provinces like Silesia, Pomerania and East Prussia

Almost all Germans knew the holocaust was happening in one way or another tho. You didn’t come around until 1990s anyway, west Germany isn’t all of Germany

What happens in Saarland?

Not sure exactly what you’re trying to say? That West Germany didn’t genocide America?

>Morgenthau plan would have gotten there if the post-war economy in europe wouldn't have been obviously completly unsalvagable without us.

Bullshit again, this partitioning plan could be only applied in 1945, while in 1945 Germany was shit poor, totally destroyed and no one would even expect that German economy would be needed for anyone, it was totally worthless and the few remaining factories could be just packed and moved to other countries, together with German specialists (like the USSR did in eastern Germany). German wirschaftswunder surprised everyone in Europe but it was only in the 1950s when it was already too late to divide anything.

nothing, it just exists to spite the french

Nobody knows. Probably incest.

>Allied forced liberated a lot of camps during the war
The russians did, and they didn't talk about it until after they had already ethnic cleansed most of the region during their advance.
Nor did the people who did that even know about the camps when they were doing it.

You also didn't know about a holocaust going to happen in 30 years when you gunned down civilians for voting the wrong way after WW1, so thats doubly bullshit as an excuse for ethnic cleansing.
It had literally nothing to do with the holocaust, thats just an excuse after the fact.

not the one you're replying to but West Germany and current Germany are one and the same state.

>Scandis are not germans.
And Danes are not Scandis

There is the stereotype of them practising incest.