I've noticed a lot of Dutch people here posting anti-EU and especially anti-Southern threads...

Would make sense, diaspora is fucked in the head

Probably the moroccan

Based

Let's not resort to racism. Racism is vile.

Have you guys read about this?
ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/qanda_20_572
To me it looks like a good compromise, an enlarged version of SURE could work for both sides (no moral hazard due to a shared governance and guarantees and extra liquidity)

he's not bad actually better than the last 20

Trump is actually a good thing for the EU. It made Europe realise how risky it is to rely so much on the US (same with covid-19 and China, I guess)

He's clearly demented, dude. But if you prefer your presidents as vegetables, then go ahead.

I think the hatred against Southern Europeans is retarded but pro-EU people like OP are traitorous fucks that deserve what will come to them.

Except most people is seeing China positively because they sent us a few boxes of useless stuff but with pretty flags an inspirational quotes.

Why on Earth would wealthy countries agree to sharing their wealth? Greatest scam in history.

Shut up tax haven

Eurobonds aren't about wealth sharing, it's more about risk sharing

this. Fuck OP and fuck medhits

People can change their minds very quickly. I'm more talking about governments

Don't know if it'll be a migration crisis, but the amount of conflicts is going to be insane. Can the continent even sustain that many people?

Traitorous? Have some fucking sex, bro. Being pro-European doesn't make me traitorous. I care more about a Spanish Eurofederalist than a Dutch FvD-slutm

you seem upset hope your country manages to stay functional

africa is big

Ok. I feel better now that a bunch of anons in a cambodian basket weaving cavern express the stand of their cunt in this regard.

Also, Heil Hitler.

I can guarantee I pull more girls than you (not that it matters since you're very likely a homosexual anyway) you D66 voting twink faggot lmao.

Pull them into an alley and rape them, perhaps

Whatever you say chomo

wtf are you talking about? the Dutch poll consistently among the most anti-eu nations
which is good, don't get me wrong
the eu must disband

fuck off kelly

Why do you think that? Are you actually Greek?

Hou je bek timmerfrans

how do you know who kelly is?
because picrel and yes

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your welcome france

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No you took all the money via EU. Also seeing his face I'm not sure you should have saved him.

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The euro is a French invention

ungrateful cuck, we have wasted 200 beds for you guys

>"The results of the study do not show that it would be better for a euro country to exit the euro. Rather, the euro countries that have so far not benefited from the euro must implement reforms, in particular to increase competitiveness, in order to benefit from the euro. This was pointed out several times in the study. In addition, an exit from the euro would be associated with uncontrollable risks and would therefore not lead to an improvement in prosperity compared to the status quo for any country. There is no way around reforms."
t. Cep

Classic german propaganda, first time they do something for us in 200 years and now we should suck their cock baka
True, one of our biggest fail

Yeah let's create a currency to destroy us lol.

It's banter you moron, we are grateful.

You're the pro EU italian? I see you often on the board.

>You're the pro EU italian? I see you often on the board.
There are like 2-3 I think, I mostly post in the weekends

>True, one of our biggest fail
It's a meme, we didn't create it.

Lol, 10 more years in the Eurozone and Italy becomes a third world country like Greece

>Yeah let's create a currency to destroy us lol.

Pretty much. The Euro and a unified monetary policy (rather the abolition of the Deutschmark and the loss of German monetary sovereignty) was a German concession to France's yes to the reunification. Not our problem it ended up owning you guys because Germany managed to unexpectedly and successfully restructure its economy after the initial blow from the reunification.

Not an argument

>increase competitiveness, in order to benefit from the euro
which means austerity
if the economy of said country becomes more competitive then who is it going to compete against? Germany obviously
the study's conclusion states the obvious but it clearly shows that the euro is a net loss and useless in the end

Pure ideology

>which means austerity
Not necessarily. Reducing bureaucracy, making the public administration more efficient, making it easier for people to start a business can be done without reducing expenditure
>then who is it going to compete against? Germany obviously
As if we traded only with Germany
I'm just quoting the guys who made the study

The reason why we are doing so well right now is because we implemented austerity in 2002.

Maastricht would have never happened without Delors and Mitterrand

Mitterand? The guy that literally started to sell our nationalized industries? It's almost as if there's no real French leaders post Degaulle.

Not having a Giant Boulder attached to your legs as a currency could help too, without power to control your currency all you can do is internal devaluation, or increasing efficiency as yours said, which means doing more with less. Meanwhile your people get poorer and poorer and the economy can’t possibly restart because it’s harder to export your overpriced products

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DeGaulle was the last who had France’s interest in mind for sure. The one who followed either betrayed the people or just don’t care anymore

Devaluation is just like a tax that makes your people poorer and poorer too, you can't generate value out of thin air
>because it’s harder to export your overpriced products
And a weak currency would make our imports (which we use to make exports, since we don't really have a lot of natural resources) more expensive, together with foreign investments and interest rates on our existing debt

There is no easy solution

those too but the main issue here is reducing labor cost
yes

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>reducing labor cost
Which can be done with all of that

>As if we traded only with Germany
you think Germany isn't one of your main opponents in trade?

not at a great extent. Slashing wages, reducing union rights, slashing benefits and making the labor market more "flexible" are the tools to do this

When will dumb fucks realize that invidual european countries on their own cant survive in this world

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