I would like to learn Scots
Where can I start?
I would like to learn Scots
Just get drunk when you're typing English and you're set.
Scots (or "Lallans", a poetic spellins for lawlands, Scots Gaelic: Beurla Ghallta/Albais) is a Wast Germanic leid o the Anglic varietie that's spaken on the Lawlands an Northren Isles o Scotland an en tha stewartrie o Ulster en Ireland (whaur it's kent as "Ulster-Scots", "Scotch", or "Ullans"). En maist airts, it's spaken anent tha Scots Gaelic an Inglis leids.
Up til tha 15t yeirhunder Scottis (modren furm Scots) wis the name o "Gaelic", the Celtic leid o th' aunshint Scots. Thaim that bruikit Scots cried tha Gaelic Erse (meinin Irish). Tha Gaelic o Scotland is nou maistlì cried Scots Gaelic an is yit spaken bi sum en tha wastren Scots Hielands an ilands. Fer tha maist pairt, Scots cums fae tha Northumbrian kyn o Anglo-Saxon (Auld Inglis), tho wi a litil influenss fae th' Auld Norse bi waa o tha Vikings, tha Dutch an Laich Saxon throoch troke wi (an incummers fae) tha laich kintras, an tha Romance bi waa o kirk an legal Laitin, Anglo-Norman an syn Pairisian French cause o th' Auld Alliance.
Anglian spikkers wer weil staiblisht in sooth-eist Scotland bi tha 7t yeirhunder. In tha 13t yeirhunder Norman launainers an thair reteiners, speakin Northumbrian Middil Inglis, were bade tae cum an sattil bi tha Keeng. Scots kyth'd fer tha first tym en scrieved form en tha mids o tha 14t yeirhunder an didnae differ mukkil fae ither northren Inglis byleids. Th' Anglian leid o Scotland gra an its ain sinsyn. Bi tha lat 15t yeirhunder tha sicht fowk haed o tha differs wi tha leid spaken faurder sooth cam til tha fore an Scots-spikkin Scots begoud tae crie thair leid "Scots". Scots haes lend-wirds fae tha fak thit tha Scots fowk haed contak wi Gaelic spikkers. Thair lend-wirds is fer ordinair anerlì fer geographical an cultural hings, sik as clan an loch. Lyk onì leivin leid, Scots haes chynged ae bittie ower tha yeirs, tho it haes arguablì stey'd naurer til its Anglo-Saxon springheid than Inglis.
i almost understand
Hungary.
Despite the Eternal Anglo's attempt to hide it, Scots is infact the Westernmost Turanian Language.
it's just english spoke with a scottish accent but written phonetically
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>I would like to learn Scots
No you don't
>Where can I start?
You can't
I understand 100% of that. Spicy dialect bro.
Just buy some books in it and learn.
What the fuck is that?
That isn't Scots. That is some weird literally none of that has any basis on the literary tradition.
AUTISM
Literally just fucking English with a funny accent, ONE fucking haggis-fucking autist on here is spamming shit trying to convince people that it's a legitimate fucking language but it's not and even claiming that that's a language devalues the category of real languages.
>ONE fucking haggis-fucking autist on here is spamming shit
>ONE
This is the worst fucking part. The guy is prob. mentally ill and definitely has no life. It's säd.
Almost as sad as how lowland Scots LARP as highlanders by wearing tartans etc.
>What do you mean people like Elizabeth the first and the Kings of France are recorded learning it? That isn't evidence.
>has no life
So you have cameras at my house or something but if you did you know that would not be true.
>Beurla Ghallta/Albais
>literally meaning "Scottish English"
Say it with me
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I cannae understan a werd ye sae
I don't need any books, I just watch outlander on netflix and I get my daily dose of scottish.
Even a bairn would ken what he saes. I'm a marit man I know of bairns ye hear?
That is the same with every lanaguge...
Dutch, Portuguese, Swedish, Breton and so on were all considered parts of one other language until roughly around the 15th-16th century.
And for Gaelic that is just a name.
The Gaelic people call it that meaning a separate language for if they didn't it would just be English.
>So you have cameras at my house or something but if you did you know that would not be true.
You're on here 24/7 sperging about something that NOBODY else cares about.
I dinnae speke your lede. What call ye a baird?
Don't linguists themselves squabble about what separates a dialect from a language.
I'm not sure if I'd call broad Scots a dialect, I'm from Northumberland and it's still incomprehensible to me.
I really doubt that.
Never watched it and don't want to but I doubt it has any.
Hahhaa! What is that meant to be! Not Scots that I can see.
My fate? I never talked about that.
Linguistics don't use the term language.
>Hahhaa! What is that meant to be! Not Scots that I can see.
words they use in the tv show outlander. They seem to just use regular English, and replace some words. Like Bairn = baby, ken = understand, some other shit they use I'm not sure if the captions are just spelling it wrong or if they're actual words. Anyhow, the show has one scottish main character, but they've left scotland since season 3 started.
I'm 99% sure its essentially just a women's TV show, but its pretty interesting so I watch it with the wife every now and then.
>Beurla Ghallta/Albais
>Scottish English
That's not really what ghallta means. Ghallta means alien/foreigner/stranger and it's the same term Gaels used for Normans, Norse, Anglo-Saxons etc. etc. Beurla Ghallta literally just means Foreigner English. Because Ghallta (or foreigner) is literally the word Gaels used for Lowlanders
Who were not, and are not, Scottish. Regardless of what they fucking call themselves and LARP as.
Sad reality of Scotland is it's just cut off northern Englishmen LARPing as Scottish and so insecure about their (lack of) an identity that they decided to attack the actual Scottish, forcibly assimilate/ethnocide them and then pretend the resulting abomination was a distinct ethnic group.
Besides nobody in modern Scotland even speaks 'Scots' whether it's a dialect or not, so it's irrelevant. And the few remaining who do speak overwhelmingly don't consider it a separate language according to polls.
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>Even a bairn would ken what he saes. I'm a marit man I know of bairns ye hear?
Should be
"Even, a bairn wald ken quhat he says. I'm a mairieit man I men o bairns ye heir(as the ea is to be avoided)?"
Not very different but much better to the Scottish eye.
80% of people who speak Scots do consider it a language.
It would be a bit hard for them to be English since they entered Scotland before england was a nation and it really doesn't make sense for them not to be Scottish since people like William Wallace were not Gaelic and Scottish never meant Gaelic after Scotland formed it just meant someone that lived in Scotland.
And the burghs that were built were never majority anything all of them were diverse with the use of English as a common language.
>It would be a bit hard for them to be English since they entered Scotland before england was a nation and it really doesn't make sense for them not to be Scottish since people like William Wallace were not Gaelic and Scottish never meant Gaelic after Scotland formed it just meant someone that lived in Scotland.
A political identity isn't a fucking ethnicity you stupid, braindead fucking moron. English people were still English before the Kingdom of England was formed. I know this is hard for you to understand, since the 'Scottish' identity is literally just an artificial political one and completely worthless, like Belgian, but an ethnic group isn't a political identity. Although political identities often are based around ethnic groups.
>after Scotland formed it just meant someone that lived in Scotland.
So it's a regional descriptor and a completely worthless and nothing term then.
>And the burghs that were built were never majority anything all of them were diverse with the use of English as a common language.
If their common language was English, they were English. If they all had English names, they were English. If everyone outside of the Lowlands referred to the people there as English or 'the lands of the English in the Kingdom of the Scots' and the actual Scottish (Gaels) referred to you as English, foreigners, strangers, aliens, Saxons etc. and you even fucking referred to yourselves continually as English and advocated union with England for hundreds of years before it actually happened...
THEN YOU WERE FUCKING ENGLISH, BUCKO. Now fucking neck yourself, and stop shitting up this site with your fucking drooling retardation for once in your fucking pathetic life.
Good day.
Based. Germanic unity above all.
English people never existed before the Normans so it is a bit hard for them to exist in Scotland before the normans.
They never had "English" name anyway since most names were derived from occupation.
>'the lands of the English in the Kingdom of the Scots'
that quote is written by an English man who lived in the Scottish borders. that is what I was talking about. the burghs when he was alive had no main ethnicity at all but then if you want, since I know you are racist you will deny this, London is 100% English because they all speak it as a lingua franca. none of the people in that city were considered English by any one.
the English aren't Germanic. they are French in origin.
They literally called their language Inglis. It's just a variant of Old English.
and the dutch called their language german but no one says dutch doesn't exist. other than a few people that cannot get sex.
See the map here You are Germanic.
God bless you, brother. I'm from Glasgow, we're not all braindead retards. But there simply needs to be a cleansing, a purge.
That was mainly brought by Norsemen from Norway and genetics has nothing to do with culture.
>God bless you, brother. I'm from Glasgow, we're not all braindead retards. But there simply needs to be a cleansing, a purge.
This is what a based Scotsman looks like.
>tfw English but not Germanic
he is in Glasgow so likely irish in origin.
Impossibru. Where are you from?
>no one says dutch doesn't exist.
Yes they do. It's constantly the butt of jokes about the Netherlands and Dutch people. That they're just discount Germans or drunk Germans etc. etc.
>and the dutch called their language german
The Dutch still basically call their language and themselves German and consider themselves at the very least Germanic and incredibly similar to Germans. Any 'rivalry' between them is jocular and contained to football.
Besides, the Netherlands is actually a separate political entity. You're not and haven't been for over 300 years. If 'Nederland' had just been the 17th state of the Federal Republic of Germany for as long as it had existed, NOBODY would consider the Dutch a separate people.
What the fuck is actually wrong with you? Are you mentally retarded or something? Have you ever been tested?
If that was the case then he wouldn't be proud of his Germanic blood ya bloody moron.
anywhere in west England.
the irish blood does corrupt your head...
that is my point. languages are completely political. they do not exist in the scientific world.
for if Scotland somehow forced England into a union now English would be a dialect of scots.
Lolwut, define "Western England"
>that is my point. languages are completely political. they do not exist in the scientific world.
Dialect continuums are very real though.
>the English aren't Germanic. they are French in origin.
imagine actually believing that shit lol English literally comes from Anglo-saxon you massive tard
>English
>not Germanic
Well, you already have a Germanic native tongue. Do you have a Germanic last name? If not, change your name to a Germanic one, and as long as you're white, you pass in my book.
That's basically just what Germanic meant historically. Same as Celtic or Slavic.
a rough line.
that is why language is not a scientific term.
Oh right, so a Cumbrian (North Northern Welshman). Have you actually tested your DNA?
Germanic, celtic, and sslav are not ethnitcites.
subhuman. really I cant wait till the Indians., poles and such exterminate the English by out breeding them
The real divide in England isn't North/South it's East/West. East of the Pennines you never find Celtic placenames, other than a few spurious ones like Kent or London.
That said rural Cumbria is very English to this day so it's a wash.
Look at this map Most of those areas are majority germanic.
wtf is you talking about dna for? no one cares about that.
>that is why language is not a scientific term.
Dialect continuum = "language"
Cuz he said he wasn't Germanic lol. So if he is Germanic by toungue then, how could he be anything except Germanic? Unless if you're going by blood.
not according to any modern linguist.
but a racist virgin from Sweden knows more than them :)
it's a good question/ I guess You can find textbooks in the internet/
I also wonder is it hard for Russian and Belorussian speaking person to learn Polish. and what shall I start from
I actually had Davidsky plot my genes on PCAs and my closest match with ancient peoples was Medieval Swedish Vikings from Sigtuna.
But you know the interesting thing those PCA plotters revealed to me? We're basically all genetically identical in northwestern Europe. There's practically no genetical distance between the populations of the British Isles, Scandinavia and northern Germany and the Netherlands. I believe Germanic languages and culture to be a purer form of the language and culture we once all shared in northwest Europe. I believe Celtic languages and culture was brought to the British Isles through invasion, conquest and assimilation much like the later Norman conquest changed English drastically.
White people are Germanic. And I believe Hitler was genuinely onto something with his idea of Germanizing all Nordic looking people in the lands he conquered.
The more advanced genetics gets as a field. The more we're beginning to see the ideas of the Nazis actually had some vague basis and grounding. The genetic spread of Germanic genes almost matches their visions for Großgermanisches Reich perfectly.
Things have changed since the 500s, mate. Germanic people didn't just remain confined to the areas they initially spread to. They spread all throughout the western parts too. Even the Pale and Ulster in Ireland are around 30% Germanic descended.
good evening, sir. How can I date a cute Germanic gf?
not trying to be fassious but please go and talk to someone in real life. I know you see your collegues or whatever once a week but talk to someone else and maybe even get a girlfriend.
it will cure this disease in your head.
I feel like half these posters are Razib Khan-tier Pakis trying to LARP as muhh Anglo-Saxon vs. Celtic heritage
>desperately wishes for his "language" to be recognized
>doesnt believe in languages
Ok.
>Germanic, celtic, and sslav are not ethnitcites.
Established ethnolinguistic groups based on shared language, shared names and shared phenotype are all bullshit nothing terms.
But my bullshit nothing term of Scottish meaning being from some arbitrary area of land regardless of your language, regardless of your genes, regardless of your name, regardless of your phenotype is totally more legitimate.
Please continue, mate. Comedy fucking gold.
if you're pro-white you're all right
yeah I'm a anglo-celt mutt
nah I'm a CELTIC BVLL