Are you generally pro-EU or anti-EU? Do you think there should be more, less...

Are you generally pro-EU or anti-EU? Do you think there should be more, less, or the current amount of European integration?

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Pro EU. EU should integrate further but close its outer borders from immigrants.

I think there should be more EU funds for the disadvantaged and disenfranchised nations in the east of the EU.

Good post. Poland has not finished developing and needs €20 billion worth of EU funds in 2020 alone.

The virus will hit our economy so these funds are badly needed. I hope rich western nations will understand it.

why does Poland want EU funding but refuses to share the burden of refugees that come to Italy and Greece? Do you think European solidarity is a one way street?

Anti

pro EU

pro
but but like thise

Pro economic EU
Anti current EU

pro EU

I'm pro-EU but anti-Western which is a bit of a paradox I suppose

I think a better question is why any country accepts being subjected to this and then attempts to force the same on poland and hungary and so on. Just send them back.

if you are against sand nigger immigration then you are against the EU

Anti government EU that tries to make decisions for countries

Don't massively swing either way but not a fan of them regulating stuff like the internet (not that the UK government won't do, they already tried to ban squirting porn)

completely false, the West started mass importing sandniggers decades before the EU was a thing and the EU in principle encourages internal migration, not external

Anti EU, pro European market.

I think that the EU should be far more centralised

The EU can never be successful in its current form because it is crumbling under the weight of its own bureaucracy and the Euro is too strong for most member countries, making them uncompetitive globally

IMO you guys need to give up this childish obsession with "national sovereignty" and just embrace federalism already. the time for half assing it is over, a united Europe is needed to stand up against China. Europe is the biggest economy and technological power in the world and yet it is playing third fiddle on the world stage?

This.
You're not entitled to go live a good life in the first world just because you exist.
Thirdies should go fuck themselves especially if they're brown.

forgot to say that I'm not interested in the opinion of non Europeans

I have an Irish passport so I am an EU citizen

>The EU can never be successful in its current form because it is crumbling under the weight of its own bureaucracy

The entire European bureaucracy is smaller than that of the Sydney municipal government.

google says the budget for sydney council is $1.6b AUD. the budget for the EU is 158b euros = $285b AUD

Don't worry, the EU has already blatantly shown it isn't committed to preserving Western values.

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You're not interested in the opinion of anyone who disagrees with your liberal bs Hans.
Go to Reddit if you want an echo chamber.

Pro eu but not in favor of its current state

Based and benefit-scrounging-bloodsucking-leech-pilled.

Like, for example?

Pro EU

And? A large bureaucracy is primarily defined by the number of its employees and if you told me that the biggest trading bloc in the world is regulated by a smaller bureaucracy than some random municipal government then I'd say that this bureaucracy is small as fuck.

Apparently Western values these days means ditching liberal democracy and becoming some Singapore-on-Thames shithole.

So you are just counting number of staff? The difference is that every person in the EU is a bureaucrat. Most of the people employed by the Sydney municipal government will be truck drivers and gardeners and shit, only a handful of actual bureaucrats

dilate

I'd be pro EU if you fuckers didn't consider us subhumans

Anti-EU. I think leaving the EU is the only option of the Netherlands, because I don't expect the EU to reform in a positive manner.

Pro EU, but is should be more ambitious and finally federalise

I mean Brits with their nostalgia for empire are already cringe but this is before I got to now that this applies to some Dutch people as well.

Perhaps the most obvious example is mass-importing millions of unskilled subhumans with backwards Islamic values for the sake of multiculturalism which has proven to be an absolute disaster for the EU and Europe, igniting the inevitable rise of national populism which by default is Eurosceptic (and this is all a good thing). I would've thought your inference skills could at least detect that. The EU is the poster child of neoliberal globalism, which doesn't protect cultures of nations.

pro EU. but honestly it's not working out very well.

there is no empathy between member states.
we can't get along.
we don't have a lot in common.
we don't have the same interests.

To add. I'm not necessarily against a smaller or bigger EU. Although it would be easier to manage if you decide to go for a small federal government.
But it needs to put the interests of the people first. Which I don't see happening if there are no european-wide parties that represent all people. And if the EU is run by bureaucrats and national leaders.
Currently it seems like a political project for the elite, that tries to shape society and economies in ways that only work on paper.

>Perhaps the most obvious example is mass-importing millions of unskilled subhumans with backwards Islamic values for the sake of multiculturalism

The EU isn't and has never been in charge of the immigration policy of its member states you politically illiterate goon

Don't give a fuck. THough it's basically impossible to be Pro-EU and Swedish because apparently the entire rest of the EU hates us and wants us to die.

you whine about Western values yet unironically refer to people as subhumans
Yas Forumstards are mentally ill

That's all you, baby. You were in control the whole time.

Without the EU we could just deport migrants who try to cross the border back to Germany.

>the EU is in charge of immigration

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>Although it would be easier to manage if you decide to go for a small federal government
Basically two-speed Europe
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-speed_Europe

careful

The funny thing is that the EU tries to harmonize things that even the United States doesn't harmonize for its states.

Pro Eu market idea.
Anti Eu immigration.

Nations must have a choice in the question of who and when and if to take in immigrants.

This is an interesting idea but will never happen.

If the EU controlled immigration policy then you'd be able to block unilateral actions of member such as the suspension of the Dublin agreement by Germany in 2015, the kind of actions you are unironically supporting by keeping the competence in the hand of member states.

Which is great. Who the fuck needs 50+ standards for driver's licenses?

Wow I think you lack a bit of self-awareness there. Did you or did you not import millions of unskilled paki and Indians in the UK? You're the first and leading example of this yet you're angry at the EU. Are you planning on deporting the pakis??

The EU has rules about migration, due to the common borders. Which means they do affect migration policies.
And on a national level you can change the rules on a whim.
In the EU if you don't block everything before it's introduced, you will be stuck with those rules forever.

Noticing a pattern here

(the fact you're all third world shitholes that would die without the teats of the EU)

Hate EU

Less

Also fuck Germany, I’m glad you are a Turkish colony now

ugh.....
What could be....
EVROPA.....

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>Nations must have a choice in the question of who and when and if to take in immigrants.

They do. That's how we could decide to take in all those refugees and not give a fuck about anyone. You should be cheering on member states exerting their sovereignty whenever they can, no?

And the reason why many countries let those EU rules pass and don't veto them, is because they don't want to be the boogeyman in Brussels. Only to get stuck with rules that are almost impossible to change.

>The EU has rules about migration, due to the common borders. Which means they do affect migration policies.

Non-binding conventions that are constantly ignored, lmao

From Lisbon...
To Vladivostok...
Ugh...

EU is a basket-case at this point and its days are numbered. Its time to crash and burn can't come soon enough.

How come some countries are being targeted for sanctions for not taking in then?.

Because they had signed a voluntary agreement in 2015 and then went back on their word