Does anyone else find it strange when the English claim that England existed before the Normans?

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t. Pajeet

>The Germans never claim they existed before the 19th century
hahahahahahaha

Modern Germans really don't and that is historically wrong. Germans were the Kurds of Europe for more than a 1000 years.

German identity has existed for hundreds of years. No German will claim that Germany and the idea of being German magically started in the 1800s.

>No German will claim that Germany and the idea of being German magically started in the 1800s.

I went to a lecturer at my uni who was obviously very left wing and she had a book literally with that title on her shelf.

The German myth: How Germans were invented in the 19th century

Something like that. Pretty sure I could find a couple of anti-German sociology or history papers in the same vein easily.

No...? They had an understanding of themselves as a distinct people (and so did the Germans for that matter). The English/German nations are seperate to the state/political entities of Britain and 19th century Germany.

I think one of the steps to be crowned Holy Roman Emperor was to be declared King of Germans, but I may be wrong

>The German myth: How Germans were invented in the 19th century

You europeans disgust me

A nation is not the state it currently resides in.