thank god, swedes are the most annoying scandis anyway
Julian Watson
Real talk: a virus killing 80-90% of swedes would be the best thing that could happen to this country. They need a hard reset.
Logan Davis
Sweden have done 5.9 times fewer tests per capita than Norway so their cases are obviously severely underreported. Their per capita death rate is already 3.4 times higher than ours and they currently have 429 people in intensive care. We have 96 and that number declined by 3 today while Sweden's increased by 9%
they just decided to collectively suicide the boomers
UK tried that too, until Boris found out it's its voting base that would be affected the most
Caleb Parker
Tbqh if you have more than 100 covid deaths, you're not first world country.
Ryder Fisher
Just let the old fucks die.
Evan Watson
>Shutting down everything to save some boomers
Yeah I'm thinking we're pretty based
Gabriel Hughes
I guess you could import more working age muslims instead! Dead boomers also make mea s that racist SD never will be relevant.
Chase Green
70+ years old boomers are just as worthless for the economy as unemployed immigrants.
Jeremiah Smith
It's a bit to early to draw conclusions from this Preben but you wouldn't now since neither you nor your government has any respect for public health agency. There are already estimations where Stockholm has reached herd immunity
Angel Miller
They just want to get it over with quickly, shutdowns do nothing but invite the chance of a second wave of infections for people that didn't catch it the first time like what China is experiencing
Nathaniel Hernandez
The best thing about this pandemic is that we will not open our borders to swedes, arabs or africans for at least 3-5 years.
Bentley Myers
You think that they will suddenly stop immigration after a "reset"? They will only bring in more pensionsavers.
Christopher Hughes
>MUH ECONOMY >muh survival of the fittest What the FUCK is wrong with Swedes? Jesus Christ what happened to being a world power in humanitarianism?
Luis Cox
Don't Denmarks have about the same deaths per capita as we do?
Jayden Bailey
Lol old people vote for socdems not SD. Old people dying is perfect for the right wing in this country, that means socdems only have young immigrants left to vote for them. If the current regime was smart they would do everything in their power to save the oldies, because that's their voterbase. Good riddance socdem voters
Angel Green
>decided irs time to commit collective suicide I mean at this point this corona thing is just an auxiliary measure for them, innit?
Hunter Wilson
Not to mention a quarantine during an eventual second wave will not be nearly as effective because you can't keep people locked inside forever
Parker Butler
>everyone giving the US shit for its bad response >Sweden doesn't even have a response wtf haha
I dont get why people go apeshit over it. If right now 90 % non risk people would get infected the hospitals could handle it. the problem are the other 10 % which need quarantine and Basic income for the time being and their food delivered to them. whats wrong with that strategy??
Jason Johnson
USA is actually a relevant country, Sweden is not.
Jose Cox
they're very relevant, one of them made minecraft after all
Camden Carter
The main goal of quarantining is not to beat the virus but to spread the number of severely ill over a greater period of time to put less stress on the health care system.This will unquestionably save countless of lives, especially in poorly developed and high density areas.
Stockholm is already bursting at the seams and will soon have an acute ICU shortage. Netherlands started out with the herd-immunity route like Sweden and they're getting absolutely fucked right now. 1339 deaths and still rapidly increasing. South Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong and others have already shown that it's possible to severely limit the spread with strong enough measures. With extensive testing and tracking few cases will slip through the cracks. Those in the high-risk groups should still be self-isolating until it's clear the government can track the spread down to an individual level though.
The goal of quarantines is to contain the virus, you separate the sick from the healthy. What we have are "stay at home" orders which are not the same as quarantines. The sick are only separated out if they are so sick they need to go to hospital.
Easton Carter
>The sick are only separated out if they are so sick they need to go to hospital. That's not the case here. Norway and Iceland have started widespread testing of asymptomatic people, these people will be given orders to quarantine if their test is postive. If you're going to contain the virus you need to be testing people with zero symptoms and multiple times. If not it will be impossible to track.
Alexander Ramirez
We have a literal field hospital which hasn't been opened yet. If the situation was as severe as you claimed, quarantine would be enforced
Daniel Russell
Sweden is only 68% white. I don't know why you expected any different. Vid related - daily occurrence in Sweden nowadays
Sweden is probably lower than 68% white since you abolished official statistics, but the last numbers, as proven several times, are 32% foreign population.
Sweden is a hellhole of dystopian shithole. I'd rather live in homicide filled Brazil than feminist tranny Sweden.
Lucas Taylor
Sounds like my life minus twitter. At least I know corona cant get me in here
Angel Jackson
A field hospital has little value when your country is lacking health workers, respirators, ventilators and protective medical equipment to take care of everyone during the peak. I really do hope Sweden is prepared for what's coming and that this approach pays off in the long run. Few signs of that so far though and Anders Tagnell, the state epidemiologist, has already admitted that Sweden's approach failed to protect the elderly. The spread has already reached several nursing homes and hundreds will die in the coming days.
>are 32% foreign population. that includes people with one parent from Denmark it's not mostly Africans
Thomas Myers
As usual non-Swede brainlets do not understand our strategy. You will sit in your quarantines for months and when they'll let you out the plague will spread again. Meanwhile we will be immune and laughing.
Joseph Martin
Sweden always seemed to me a very healthy country. They arent as old as Italy or fat as USA. All their elderly have had BCG vaccination at birth.
They aren't African tier zoomers but if anyone in Europe is going to get away with not locking down its Sweden. But maybe Im wrong.
Looks like the real Corona was in 2017-2018
Benjamin Jenkins
l watched that movie where those Swedish cultists would jump off a cliff when they got old is this similar?
Luis Roberts
Regarding medical equipment, time will tell. Sweden has domestic production of Respirators that manages to keep up. Medical force hasn't been put out either, volunteers and doctors from the private sector are assisting. We've had more volunteers than necessary. You're painting up a picture that is far from the current reality. The growth of ICU cases have been stable so far
Jackson James
you will get a travel ban from other countries when we are done, stupid herder
Adrian Nguyen
>Sweden is twice as big as Denmark and Norway >Sweden has twice the deaths as they do Are you retarded?
Justin Fisher
>Hungary >this buttblasted There is not one rational reason for us to get a travel ban.
They hate us cause they anus.
Ryder White
>be a rich, small country >see the virus spread around the rest of europe before you >have the capacity to implement a massive test-and-trace campaign, South Korea style >can withstand a month or two of quarantine without issue, national debt is not a problem
>do nothing because muh economy, while a recession is going to sweep over the world regardless of what you do
utterly and absolutely based sociopaths
Angel Bailey
if your population gains herb immunity it means that the virus is freely spreading in your population. asymptomatic carriers of the virus can still spread the disease. no country would want to accept Swedish tourists or residents without a 14 day quarantine and extensive testing. there might not be a travel ban to sweden but it's going to be very difficult for swedish people to travel if every other country is using a containment strategy.
Angel Russell
sweden is the only sane country in the world
we were on the right path as well at first but this retarded country so easily gives in to screeching from dumb tabloids
Wow it's almost as if Sweden had double the population. Mind=blown
Parker Gomez
herd immunity is not 100%, call me when your coofing ass is surely not spreading disease
Carter Scott
Pop matters more endgame
Tyler Williams
Do you think the virus can be contained? Lockdown every country for years until there are no more reports?
Wyatt Reed
I heard Romania infected every nurse and and doctor there.
Connor Peterson
i think the virus can be contained within each country if they take the proper steps to test, quarantine and contact investigate. i mean the chances of developing a viable vaccine is there, but it is also a gamble, we might never get one. it won't be easy but it is doable.
Benjamin Thompson
>You're painting up a picture that is far from the current reality. The growth of ICU cases have been stable so far See 19% increase in deaths today (1 more since that was posted), 9% increase in ICU patients. You're at 429 ICU patients. Sources from 2020 say you have anywhere from 480-530 ICU beds. That capacity will be maxed in one day at this rate if that number is correct. Add 450-550 intermediate care beds and this growth needs to be stopped/slowed significantly within 10 days before you have to start turning down severely ill patients.
It could have been China did it. West refused to because "muh economy"
Jacob Ortiz
I hope you Swedes are ready to spend 2-3 weeks in imposed quarantine for the next 2-5 years whenever you are travelling internationally.
Daniel Collins
We can't weld peoples doors shut to contain the virus, and that didn't even work as china always fudged the numbers. The virus will spread until 60% are infected and herd immunity is achieved.
The best we can do is isolate the old and weak, the rest should become immune.
Caleb Howard
herd immunity is only viable when you have a vaccine. you are still subjecting 60% of your population to infection and the resulting hospitalizations and deaths. and that would still allow the infection to move freely within the population. you would have to permanently isolate the weak and old because they would always be under the constant threat of infection. the virus will not cease to exist if 60% of the population has already had it, it would merely slow down the spread to the few who don't have it. there is no certainty that once you become infected you gain permanent immunity.
Cooper Jackson
>Tyskland What does it say about Germ Many?
Zachary Robinson
>We can't weld peoples doors shut to contain the virus, and that didn't even work as china always fudged the numbers. Are you seriously implying China cannot keep people inside? They literally track everyone and basically take them away if they have the virus. Even comparing it with Scandinavian advise-tier prevention to virus is idiotic.
Evan Phillips
>herd immunity is only viable when you have a vaccine. Getting it and recovering works just the same as a vaccine does. Its the vaccine of nature.
Easton Long
The virus will likely spread in even "worse" countries and will keep circulating, making a huge comeback in the autumn.
Ian Perez
>Meanwhile we will be immune and laughing, with great difficulty.
Noah Sullivan
no it does not. your body does not gain permanent immunity a virus. even with vaccines you only have a duration of protection. sars-cov studies have shown that people lose 75% of the antibodies needed to fight off a reinfection after 3 years.
Wyatt Rivera
Welding people inside worked, but not viable anywhere in the world where human life/freedoms are respected.
Josiah Lee
that would be me if i was a billionaire
Hunter Foster
But this virus will not be stopped, even if sweden turns to shit, more than it already is. There will always be circulation of this virus.