Is it true that most americans need to use their car to get to any store or to their job? Obviously not in NYC...

well people also shouldn't be living in places without water

>muh lets take a picture from the sky

then move there and mind your own business. lots of people prefer living in quieter areas.

>terraforming unlivable desert into pristine, comfy living
NOOOOO not the heck inhospitable desert wasteland! Dont you DARE turn it into an attractive, valuable area!

Eurosubhumans in their dingy 1960s apartment complexes would never understand.

Yes, in the rare chance that you live in that house and your friend lives in That other house, you would have to drive a few minutes. Oh the horror!

Within a 10 minute walk of my suburban house is:
>A grocery store
>Target
>Dollar store
>5 banks
>Assorted specialty stores (office supplies, pet supplies)
>Clothing store
>2 convenience stores/gas stations
>At least 15 places to eat
>Bakery
>3 different coffee shops (only 1 is a Starbucks)
>4 bars
>Liquor store
>2 barbershops and 2 salons
>Two medical office parks
Americans are just lazy and want to drive everywhere because it's easier, only far flung suburbs necessitate driving for everything, most places you only really need to drive to work.

Most of the country yes. I live in Chicago and dont have a car. I'm able to walk to work or any store I need.

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i wish I could walk sometimes
check out the roads where I live
also keep in mind that there is a 50% chance that an asian person is behind the wheel of the car behind or ahead of you

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it's like living in a zoo

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This is the closest grocery store. Driving it is like 5 minutes.

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Yeah, but the trade off is you're not cramped in some shitty old commieblock and have your own space and privacy.

This actually doesn't look bad. But I imagine all those houses are in the millions or at the very least over 700k

>living in a zoo
The opposite. The animals in a zoo have no privacy and free space to move. They are constantly being watched.

In the photos that you are posting, the people all have ample room to relax in privacy and usually have decent sized fenced-in yards.

Yes, but it's not considered an inconvenience at all. My commute by car is 10 minutes. My nearest grocery store is 2-3 minutes away by car.
t. Grew up in a Florida burb that looked exactly like that AMA

Yeah that's sandwiched between the Atlantic and a pga tour golf course

Especially, it doesn't look as spacious as others.

It is sadly but I used to have rich friends growing up who lived in Marsh Landing and they had really nice houses and caged pools in their backyard.

the only time i was forced to walk that long was in dublin, you'd feel like home in the dublin outskirts desu, i wonder if they invented the residential areas
My current walking distance in Spain according to google maps
>Supermarket: 4 minutes
>Theater: 2 minutes
>Closest restaurant: 3 minutes
>Bakery: 4 minutes
>Cinema: 6 minutes
you seem to think on extremes, that you either live in california 40 minutes from the city center or in some tiny apartment in new york. there can be a lot of things inbetween, like the minor cities throughout europe

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doesn't those bodies of still water attract mosquitoes?

>fenced-in yards
yeah, it's like a cage. and you have absolutely no privacy in front of the house

>Ponte Vedra
looks very different from our pontevedra
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dude it's florida, you're gonna get mosquitoes anyway lmao

15 minute drive to work and to a store that's more than a gas station. It's about an hour walk one way, and that would suck ass to carry a week's worth of groceries back.

American cities are planned for an efficient and fast use of the automobile, they are very spacious, so much so that they are huge urban spots even with low population.
Walking from a suburb to the center must be tiring.

>15 minute drive
Europeans unironically think this is an excruciating amount of time to spend in a car, not even kidding

Yes, quite a few towns developed in the 1960s and 1970s here in Norway have a very strong American influence and very similar city planning. Pic related.

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Is this Animal Crossing?

land of the free*
*as long as you have a functioning car, money for gas, and have a license

>*as long as you have a functioning car, money for gas, and have a license
The great thing about the Land of the Free is that all of these things are affordable, even to those below the poverty line.

Yes. Store is a 1 hour walk. You could use a bike, but cars are much quicker which is why like half of all American territory is a desert or is a designated parking lot.

No they are criticizing the fact that most people NEED to use a car to conveniently get anywhere. I would much rather a 10 minute walk to get to the store and a 20 minute train ride to work than doing both in a car. The supposed freedom a car offers doesn't really mean much when literally everyone needs them and ultimately has similar commute times, on top of completely losing the option to live in walkable cities since those barely exist in this country thanks to car culture.

So the only real advantage we gain are bigger houses and yards at the cost of horrible suburb/city air and arguably less freedom to choose the way you want to live since not owning a car is too inconvenient to be reasonable for most.

But wouldn't it be better if people could just not need a car? Even if it is affordable?

Oh yeah and it's probably part of the reason we're so fat. 30 minutes to an hour of walking a day do wonders for health and most Americans fail to meet this since they just drive their fat asses everywhere.

Different places have different lifestyles, imagine that. If you can't deal, move to the city. It's a tradeoff between needing a car and having access to cheap yet amble living space. Figure out which you value more and relocate accordingly.

when I lived like that I became depressed. my parents moved to a place where there were no kids of my age and if I needed to buy a fucking chocolate I would need to walk 30 minutes. fucking hell

In dense cities, movement by means of mass transportation is more efficient than by car.
In cities where almost the entire area is a suburb, the car is better.

Probably most Americans DO.

But I don't think most Americans NEED to. Poorfags regularly take the bus, walk, bike etc. Every city and their suburbs have bus lines. Americans prefer cars for the convenience.

When I was too young to drive a car but wanted to get a snack from the local convenience store, I rode my bike. Took less than 10 minutes.

The problem is the balance is completely off here. NYC is the only place it really makes more sense to use public transport than a car.

i mean, then you are forced to either walk or take the bus
what if you didnt need the bus and you actually didnt spread out cities unnecesserally

I didn't mind the walk much. That was the least of my problems to be fair. What really bothered me was nobody around to kick a ball with, play a videogame, hide and seek, tag, whatever, or just talk while sit on the sidewalk and talk crap like the previous place I lived was the true problem. That place really messed up my mind

Sounds shitty man, can't relate. My neighborhood burb was teeming with kids when I was young.

>then you are forced to either walk or take the bus
No shit, in my case I can take a bus, take train, drive, or walk. (Or work from home which is what I am doing now). I guess I could move closer to my job to walk (or leave 4 hrs early). Eventually all people are "forced" into some set of choices.

But very very few American would be forced into driving specifically, unless maybe they live in a rural area without a lot of housing option. They prefer driving for the convenience. As you get closer to the city though, parking becomes more expensive and traffic gets more intense. So more people opt for public transit. For me, the train is the most convenient (I live in Chicago). Back when I lived in Michigan, I still took the bus because it was cheaper and less stressful than driving. So it depends.

>what if you didnt need the bus and you actually didnt spread out cities unnecesserally
Sounds stupid and bullshit.

>Sounds stupid and bullshit.
why would it? it works
pedestrian areas actually increase profit for stores in the area and make walking and strolling easier
youtube.com/watch?v=HGFDejyvIUA

Yup. I live in the suburbs on the outskirts of a medium sized city, about equal distance to downtown and the country. It takes 15 minutes to drive to the nearest store, Walmart. It takes 40 minutes on bike to get to university. It's a 50 minute walk to the nearest bus stop.

If I could get rid of my car for good public transit I would in an instant, but I have to make the occasional 2.5 hour drive from middle Tennessee to east Tennessee to see family. On the otherhand, not being cramped into a petri dish with other lepers is pretty convenient about now.

Try walking everywhere if youre 300kg.

Because the second someone wants to live in a cheap area but go work in a nice area, they will need a bus or train line. Most NYC does not walk to work, they take a train because its way cheaper to live in cheap neighborhood. Its way better for business too when they can draw from talent all over the metro area and not just within a few blocks.

You are restricting your ability to find jobs and your ability to find housing or a neighborhood which suits you. It would suck ass to have to only live in walking distance to your job. There's a lot more places people want to work and need to work than "stores" and "restaurants" (shit tier jobs). Its just a crap idea.

>But very very few American would be forced into driving specifically
You've never lived in a sprawling suburb city like Dallas or Phoenix I take it. Most people's commutes couldn't happen if they didn't have cars. My 15 minute commute is 90 minutes on the bus, and 45 minute commutes by car aren't uncommon so imagine that.

if you value your time and do the math for how much money & time you waste in transport by living in a cheap area... it might not be worth it

Sometime we fly instead

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>destroying the world and blaming other countries for it
the average day in the burger's life

When I was poorer it took me about 45 mins to commute by bus, 15 min by car. I took the bus. This was in Lansing, MI. By definition a bus will almost always take longer than a car.

You are just restating the main point--it is an issue of convenience and quickness. Not an issue of being forced to take a car, but wanting to take a car so you can get to where you are going faster.

Well it's nice that your bus ran better than my city's, but I'd say a 90 minute commute is on the upper ends of what a human can reasonably endure and stay sane.

You keep saying no one is "forced" to take a car but at the same time people can only make decisions based on what they're economically capable of, and for most people that means living far away from the city and commuting 30-45 minutes by car. That's just the way cities are designed to function here. There isn't enough dense housing that's economically viable for enough people to choose otherwise.

>relocated to japan temporarily for work
>convenient store with fresh sandwiches, hot drinks, and basic produces below my apartment
>don quijote (dollar store walmart) is 1 minute away
>grocery store is 3 minute away
>job is 15 minute walk away
>train station is 3 minute away
>restaurants around every block
>streets are lively with people every day

take me back. it's not fair living in the souless suburbs here.

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