So you take these countries and make a new Habsburg Empire out of them. Individually they are meme countries...

>Austria doesn't want to join the germans
You already are Germans anyway

no

Yeah I know, that's why it ought to join with Hungarians and Slavs again, restore the Habsburgs, and become relevant and connected to the ocean again.

>Canada/USA flag talking about what Old Word countries should be and who is or is not a meme country

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they are literally connected to the sea by being part of the EU economic bloc you mouthbreathing retard
and nobody wants a shitty monarch

Yes

Hungary just became a dictatorship

Please no

German

no

Germna

Get your imbread coat of arms off my country

no

German
Gib es zu, Bruder

by all means you are
austrian identity is a larp made up in the 60s, it is thereby comparable to feminism

They already tried and it collapsed

Why don't you europeans gang up and start a embargo agains't the anglos?

because real politics isn't made by edgy Yas Forums kids

unified german identity is a larp made up in the (18)60s

nah it already existed since the medievals

the HRE was not Germany

quite based but its missing siebenbürgen, bukowina, galizien, südtirol, vojvodina

the entire idea of a nation state is a larp desu.

It's called the First Reich for a reason and the word Deutsch wasn't invented in 1871, you know.

it pretty much was
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Germany
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_monarchs

>the HRE was not Germany
yes, it was the visible universal catholic monarchy.
but that is irrelevant in the question whether there was a german identity since the medieval era, and the fact that you bring up that the HRE was not Germany to prove that already shows how little counterargumentation you have.
read the medieval german humanists, and they will all affirm that a german people exists.

>not catholic
doesn't count

>X shows that Y therefore Z, you, by bringing up A, are now B and therefore C
ease up the autism hans, you type like an asperger, or I guess in your case die Assburger

>X shows that Y therefore Z, you, by bringing up A, are now B and therefore C
that is literally what you did you imbecile, dont blame it on me

>you imbecile
jesus christ you really are a caricature

Catholicism is a infantile mental disorder.

Should be just Austria+Slovenia+Croatia desu, the others have V4

well, go fuck yourself

see, you're finally beginning to master proper informal speech, congrats
yes, but so is being a g*rman

>German identity exists since the medieval
>B-but HRE isn't Germany
you low IQ bitch

>false
>true
and this is supposed to be a counterargument? nice one bro

both are truths which do not contradict each other

how is the former true? Clearly the latter is, though, since I said it earleir.

>In a decree following the 1512 Diet of Cologne, the name was changed to the "Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation" (German: Heiliges Römisches Reich Deutscher Nation, Latin: Sacrum Imperium Romanum Nationis Germanicæ),[24] a form first used in a document in 1474.[22] The new title was adopted partly because the Empire had lost most of its territories in Italy and Burgundy (the Kingdom of Arles) to the south and west by the late 15th century,[25] but also to emphasize the new importance of the German Imperial Estates in ruling the Empire due to the Imperial Reform.[26]

theel English were called "English" pre and post Norman, it doesn't mean that they were the same people with the same identity

but thanks for the wall of wikipedia text, lol.

Dude, ignore him. He knows he has no basis for that and just tries to rustle you.

there was no massive cultural change such as the Romance influence the Normans brought to England after 1066 in Germany

>rustle you
dude, come on, was
>you imbecile
not enough

there was, it was called the last 400 years, you imbecile

no there wasn't, shut the fuck up now.

you're right, 400 years haven't passed since 1600, my mistake, you imbecile

the point wasn't if the 400 years passed but if a massive cultural change like the Romance-Norman invasion of England happened in Germany, and it didn't.

you're right, nothing has changed in the last 400 years, you imbecile

england made the right choice. they listened correctly to Nigel Farrage (may God rest his soul) and left the authoritarian thug "union" the gangster european union and achieved freedom etc.

it's ok, the jerries took the hint and fucked off, the thread can die in peace

if you want to know how germans in the medieval viewed themselves you will have to read latin and read the works by the various humanists that wrote at that time.
then you can see directly from the source without having heard it from anyone else, how germans viewed themselves, how they viewed their neighbors, how they viewed the ancient germanics, they wrote about a variety of topics which many today dont have answers to.. all these sources still exist but they are untranslated from latin

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_European_Defence_Cooperation