These are the ideal borders of France

Very cool! Thank you

belgian posters have told me several times that i am not frankish, so i reiterate. you are not allowed to larp as me

Well if you're one of ours of course you are frankish, just that, you know, 3/4th of french aren't

>one of ours
i am not belgian and you are not burgundian, simple as

Awful meme, the border on the Rhine makes no sense whatsoever.

But it does. Northeast France is the only region of France that isn't protected by a natural frontier, like a mountain chain, the sea, or a river.

>Doesn't know about Pré Carré

lmaoing @ u

Well i!f you want to go there, the original Burgundians were Danish, yet you larp as them

france is such an easy-mode country

natural defences in the form of mountains on its spanish and italian borders, sea separating it from anything to the west or north, its only real adversary has to worry about being attacked from all sides and wasn't even a unified country for much of its history

how did france end up with such cucked borders?

Oh look, it's that one Italian sucker of germshit dicks again.

>france is such an easy-mode country
Says the fucking islander, that's what brexit does to brexitboys brains

>made up country talks about identity
mkay

island is good for defence but has the downside of making expansion difficult

you had an easy expansion route into a fragmented central europe and a lot of the benefits of an island nation thanks to your geographic position

>wanting to share your country with millions of Germans
Think again

Italy should have Corsica and exxtend to the Rhone
Netherlands should have Belgium
Germany should have Alsace-Lorraine
Britain should have Brittany, Normandy, Calais

lol no

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Based

cringe

bruh
look at these dudes

yikes

Honestly, no.
I like to think of myself as quite patriotic and proud of my country, but I still think any expansion to the east or North would be kind of forcing it. The people there aren't ethnically French, traditionally ahve spoken other languages, and we don't want those areas anyways.

This is based France

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Elsass-lothringen and rheilnand are German

Even the french arent etnicaly french dude. Belgians are more etnicaly french than french people. You should be ashamed.

France is rightful belgian clay

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um hello
cringe department?

orange are frances rightful borders, nothing more.

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>not giving benelux and northern france to germany
cringe

pretty based, ngl

i came
but one thing
>ireland
wtf?

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>Elsass-lothringen and rheilnand are German

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I think Paris would dominate Belgium and it would be more like a tiny France. Trading away all the shit parts in exchange for Belgium isn't even that bad.

>I think Paris would dominate Belgium and it would be more like a tiny France
This is right

>Trading away all the shit parts in exchange for Belgium isn't even that bad.
This is nonsense. It retains the poorest parts (Hautes de France) and loses some Bordeaux, which is not only a major wine region but also a big producer of airplane parts, as well as a lot of other important cities and ports.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>small chin man bad

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based

I just guessed about the shit parts because I figured the stuff closest to Paris would be most important

Wait, you want more french people in the country?

france has no claim at all to it

I like a French implosion as much as the next guy but those borders are cringe and doesn't make geographic sense at all

Sure it is where France is born, basically France is us.
You are thinking of Gaul here but it is baseed as hell. I hope someday we revive Gaul

umm sweetie, the Netherlands exists because we defeated England, France, Germany, Spain and all the other losers.

So they have no say here.

We never really tried to invade you, only time was when you joined a All of Europe against France type of coalition.
You have always been a pathetic country unable to defend itself anyway. even during your golden century you performed poorly on land.

>umm sweetie, the Netherlands exists because we defeated England, France, Germany, Spain and all the other losers.
Wait, so that's why Belgium exists. :^)

Even your tradthot join the French

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7 days

t. country that keeps on shrinking after every war

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t. country that keeps on shrinking after every tide

People here have been the same for the last 2500 years. And we are readily distinguished from our neighbours, pic related.

Anyway what I love most here is the toponymy, which goes back a long time. For example, every place that is called Zele or ends is -zele (from lower frankish/old dutch -saala) are settlements created by the Salian Franks aka the Merovingians.

But there is stuff going way beyond. Kortrijk comes from Cortoriacum, Wervik from Virovicum, all Roman. And there is stuff from before the Romans, Wenduine comes from Venedunum, a trading outpost of the Armorican Venedi.

And my favorite, which proves the continuity between the ancient Belgae and the post-Roman Flemish and Romance peoples here: Bononium was a coastal settlement of the Morini, the "sea people" of Belgic extraction. Romans came and changed the name in Gesoriacum, it became the most important port for conquest of and trade with Britain. This lasted for 4 centuries, then the name in Flemish became Bonen. This lated until the 18th century until the French decided to change it into "Boulogne-sur-mer".

Toponymy is cool and often says alot about history that you won't find in the books.

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magnifique

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Burgundian days were our finest hour. During those times the stock market was even invented here, house Van der Beurse, pic related (hence: bourse). All over Belgium we still remember those days with parades and street festivities going back in one straight line to those glorious days.

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reminder

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this is a belgian world, and we are living in it