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It's nearly a 1000 years since William conquered England
Logan Wilson
Carson Powell
Taillefer (Latin: Incisor ferri, meaning "hewer of iron") was the surname of a Norman jongleur (minstrel),[1] whose exact name and place of birth are unknown (sometimes his first name is given as "Ivo"). He travelled to England during the Norman conquest of England of 1066, in the train of William the Conqueror. At the Battle of Hastings, Taillefer sang the Chanson de Roland at the English troops while juggling with his sword. An English soldier ran out to challenge him and was killed by Taillefer, who then charged the English lines and was engulfed.
Thomas Roberts
medieval "art" was so shit
Grayson Hall
Pity they didn’t have the balls to invade in the summer
Christopher Scott
It's an embroidery not a drawing. France is going to loan it to England in 2022 but tbqh I don't want to, I don't trust the English they'll probably destroy it
Lincoln Hughes
Unless you’re from Normandy or Brittany why would you care
Gavin Sanders
It's a national treasure and an irreplaceable piece of history so I would care even if I weren't from Normandy.
Fun fact: it was made by English monks after a commission by Odo of Bayeux. Is there anything more humiliating than having to record one's own defeat for the future generations?
David Young
just comapre medieval art in general to roman times, i think a lot of knowledge was lost through the years and only later was revived during the renaissance
Jaxon Bailey
Its not even in the Gallery of Battles either. Nothing is more humiliating than giving up our ancestral religion for the desert cult therefore any ethno nationalist feeling is mute. How about surrendering your entire country to Germans without a fight
Kevin Cooper
>>Its not even in the Gallery of Battles either
Well it's already in Bayeux and there's only one Bayeux Tapestry, no?
Easton Taylor
So its a regional treasure then
David Gomez
>William
Guillaume
Dominic Phillips
It's a national treasure, just as the Mont Saint-Michel and Rouen Cathedral, Fontenay Abbey and Pont du Gard. France isn't just Paris.
Nathan Wilson
Why isn’t it in the Gallery then, yorktown is there
Tyler Jones
Based Guillaume
Jace Sullivan
kill yourself
Julian Perry
Why shouldn't it stay in the city where it was commissioned? It's not like the gallery is fully comprehensive too, the most famous painting of the Battle of the Pyramids is in Versailles
Jeremiah Nelson
If a jew artist drew that in 1919 you would be calling him a genius.
Parker Murphy
tyrone
zhang
Mason Martin
lmao didnt even know it wasnt in england.
Caleb Young
This !
Still believing our conquest of England was made by normands and bretons only ? lol
James Baker
REMINDER THAT WILLIAM WAS OF NORWEGIAN ANCESTRY
1066 was a contest between Norwegians and spiritual Norwegians on who got to control England
>pic related held the entire anglo-saxon army at Stamford Bridge until some cunt in a barrel speared him in the dick from underneath
Alexander Butler
Why isn’t there a painting in the Gallery
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And your right sorry there were Flemish
Jonathan Moore
You had +10 for paganism and couldn’t beat a bunch of christcucks absolutely pathetic
Christopher Edwards
Stop coping, you subhuman *Ngloid
>The Norman conquest of England (in Britain, often called the Norman Conquest or the Conquest) was the 11th-century invasion and occupation of England by an army of Norman, Breton, Flemish, and French soldiers led by the Duke of Normandy, later styled William the Conqueror.
>The Normans (Norman: Normaunds; French: Normands; Latin: Nortmanni/Normanni; Old Norse: Norðmaðr) are an ethnic group that arose from contact between Norse Viking settlers of a region in France, named Normandy after them, and indigenous Franks and Gallo-Romans.[1][2][3]
Yes, you were conquered by the French. The Normans were a subgroup of French people, and even if they weren't, their army still had a considerable number of actual French people. Is that so hard to accept?
Jayden Cooper
They were French because you say so. Ok thanks for the input. You both got conquered by Belgians
Nathaniel Baker
Probably because the famous painting by François Debon (a Parisian, mind you), was lost in a fire, and realistically it's the only painting that was worth displaying in the gallery
Jackson Ross
They were Christian at the time
Juan Thomas
He was french with a random danish ancestor, that's all
Yes, "our" as I'm french and part normand by the way. And our german friend said it all
Henry Sanchez
The painting in question
Thomas Fisher
Harald Hardrada was a major Byzantineboo though so he probably only had christcucks with him
Joseph Richardson
Theres a painting of a no name Scottish noble. Why isnt there a painting?
Hudson Garcia
These Belgians did well didn’t they
Ethan Reed
There are plenty of paintings, the real question is why did a Parisian bother painting the battle if it's considered a mere regional achievement
Benjamin Torres
meant for No, not just some random ancestor (and not Danish lmao), Rollo and the other Norwegian chieftains under him shared Normandy in 911 and the Norse spirit endured for many years
Gavin Wright
Rollo was Danish though, although his army contained Norwegians.
Jackson Evans
Why would a national gallery leave out its greatest battle. Is it possible this lost art of painting can be rediscovered perhaps?
James Roberts
He was never baptized
Adam Scott
>Is it possible this lost art of painting can be rediscovered perhaps?
No, it burnt to ashes
Sebastian Flores
A shame then that such antiqutated techniques are lost forever
Mason Perry
I don't think there's a consensus among historians regarding the exact origins of Rollo, I fear the truth will forever be lost to us
Christian Richardson
>modern art
We can't even rebuild the Notre-Dame cathedral
Landon Hernandez
He was danish. And you really believe that a bunch of vikings settling in the most populated region (at the time) of France could make the population of the region viking ?
There were DNA studies not so long ago in Normandie and they clearly show that the vikings didn't leave anything beside some rules and names of villages
Leo Johnson
>Rollo was Danish
Nope, that has been debunked hundreds of years ago, friend. Unless you unironically believe Dudo, in which case you haven't read Dudo
Normandie itself sent us pic related and one to America as well for good measure
Ian Bell
My ancestor...
Luis Kelly
Elijah Cruz
Why are you so adamant that he was Danish?
Anyway, point is the relevant cheiftains under Rollo's command were the ancestors of the lords under William. The lord of Saint-Clair also happens to be my ancestor :)
Brayden White
My granduncle :^)
My brother...
Nolan Garcia
>Guillaume
Willelm
Isaac Adams
Norman means norwegian
Bentley Thomas
Frank use to mean western european
Lincoln Anderson
Why would we do that
Joshua Foster
In the context of early medieval Europe, Northmen (Nortmanni) as a term was exclusively used to denote Norwegians. The Anglo-Saxons did this too. Danes had their own ethnonym, namely Danes, and nothing else. It's only because of shit historians like Dudo and certain later historians that fuck ups were made so as to give all of Scandinavia this Norwegian ethnonym. Especially Danes, who to this day can boast about achievements of both the Northmen/Norsemen AND of the Danes. Hence this argument we're having about the ethnicity of Rollo. It's honestly infuriating, ngl.
Norsemen/Northmen = Norwegians and descendants of Norwegians (Icelanders, Faroese, Greenlanders, etc)
Kevin Reed
literally the only reason the normans were ever rrferred to as french in an english context was because the moniker 'norman' was already applied to scandinavian peoples
that and the fact it was perceived as an insult, england being a kingdom and normandy a duchy beholden to the french king (i.e. you're mere frenchmen because you're not totally free of the king of france)
also I don't know why people think the english care about hastings or whether or not they were 'french', we accept that they are our ancestors and that they contributed greatly to our culture (not least bestowing on us the quality of rampant francophobia)
Oliver Thompson
edward the confessor was a descendant of rollo
maybe the anglo-saxons were actually french...
Joseph Jones
I grew up in Normandy and I'm half English half Norman.
The Bayeux tapestry shouldn't go to the UK, you already have copies of it there.
The french didn't invade England, the Normans did, they were their own people in a time where "french" only really meant the people living in the region around Paris (royal demesne).
Their culture and language was certainly very close to the french one however.
Isaac James
You are somewhat redeemable because of your ANGLO blood, but the fr*Nchness is unforgivable
Jonathan Phillips
The funny thing is that on DNA tests I always get 75% British, the rest being broadly northwestern European.
Given that my mom is 100% norman (tree goes back 300-400 years back and they're all from the same region) that must mean that Normans are so similar to the Brits that they are considered to be 50% british!
Aiden Wright
I've always heard that the vikings coming to France were danish but maybe he was not
only the dark purple parts of Normandy on the map were populated by viking people.
Cameron Rodriguez
once in a while, at my pleb job, I ring up a total that says $10.66. Then I let the customer know that was the year the Battle of Hastings occurred.
It's a game I amuse myself with with totals under $20.20: try to think of a notable historical event which is acceptable to mention in casual conversation while on the job.
Brody Fisher
Even English settled in Normandy I remember reading
Cameron Barnes
>The french didn't invade England, the Normans did
A single region invading a whole country ? Don't be stupid. The leader of the invasion was normand (which means french), his army was composed of french people from various regions of France and so were the warlords (who became english nobility). The language of the english royal court and nobility became french, not normand.