Brits, are you ok?
Brits, are you ok?
The Scottish legal system is cucked as fuck. Thanks, SNP.
well, it's kind of hard to say it was self-defense when you stab a dude 17 times in the back. but i think i'd have to see what a medical expert had to say about that before i say it was excessive or not.
>well, it's kind of hard to say it was self-defense when you stab a dude 17 times in the back.
this, in the US they'd gloss over it and slam it down as self defense mumble mumble castle doctrine, but that dude was probably not in remotely capable of fighting after the first, i dunno, 10 stabs?
>"arrghhh muh material possession you = die now"
He broke into his house fucking armed my dude, he has every right to kill him in whatever fashion he sees fits
what was it again that people said Varg couldn't have possibly done in self defence, and how many times? Nazarenes btfo.
>>"arrghhh muh material possession you = die now"
Unironically yes, if you break into my home I will fill you with buckshot and kill you without even thinking about it
>Scotland
lol
>YOU CAN'T JUST STAB THE PERSON THREATENING TO END YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS FOR THE REST OF ETERNITY 17 TIMES, THAT'S IMMORAL AND INHUMANE, YOU SHOULD JUST LET HIM KILL YOU!!!!!
>Unironically yes
oh don't worry user i say that but i know how the world works, if i see some dude in my house dropping my $300 TV to stab me, it's not that hes worth $300, hes in my fucking house and i don't have time to assess the situation.
>maybe he will let me and my partner live, Ill just hope for the best
what the fuck...
this
>>maybe he will let me and my partner live, Ill just hope for the best
vs
>>Well I think that's enough, I have him restrained now that I'm in control of the weapon, thankfully I only had to stab him a couple times and restrain him
vs
>>ARGGHHHHHHHH *fumbling of dishes* *turns knife* *butter knife motions into belly til dead* I HAD NO CHOICE I HAD THE KNIFE
i get it, you don't have time to react sometimes, he stabbed him 17 times though, i approve of castle doctrine, i approve of blowing some nigger's brain out, but you do realize that burglars aren't machines that don't stop attacking til they turn off, right?
If they’re drugged up they very well may act that way
of course it was excessive, but it was justified. Have you ever been in a life or death situation? When the adrenaline rushes into your brain and your reptile brain takes over and you loose any control. I think there was a newspaper article about some guy who was stabbed in his lung and kidneys and despite bleeding like a pig and having a collapsed lung he overwhelmed the two people attacking him and managed to disarm and beat them unconscious
>ye shannae kill
t. god
so fair enough.
>If they’re drugged up they very well may act that way
yeah i can see that happening, especially for someone whose in the mindset to break and enter
one thing is for sure, 5 fucking years? only in britbong
should have invited him over for tea innit
bloody criminal
You're not vikangz anymore, Sven.
Think it's time for a new flag.
Yes, but still. If someone breaks into your house armed, you have every right to kill him
>Implying it's not all the UK
There was a story on how a farmer was told to remove his barbed wire fence because trespassers could get hurt.
There is a difference between justified and excessive self defence. After the other person is no longer a threat, you can't just proceed to commit "mob justice" because you feel so. It's true that bewildered people lose control easily, but if that was reason enough to drop charges, half of the murderers and nearly all manslaughter cases would walk free.
Its 2020 my man.
Thats a nono. If someone stabs you in your right cheek, turn your other cheek to him as well.
Sounds fake to me, farmers stick barbed wire fences wherever they want
t. countryside user
Yepp this is based and i can now see that i was wrong
Well, in legal sense that is not the case and I believe if even significant minority felt that way the law would be different. In reality most people seem the agree that killing someone is justified without a doubt when the person in question is about to kill someone himself and there are no other options. Just because the killing is most convinient in short term isn't reason enough.
>bewildered people lose control easily
The context is what matters here, being compelled to confront a violent act with violence changes the rules significantly
people get emotional in fights to the death
You're kinda wrong though. People don't react the same way to stabbing. It's not like video games.
Fuck, some people shrug off several shots and are still capable of assaulting someone.
This is idiocy. It's not intrusion on property or something like that, he was armed.
insect
what you guys are misunderstanding is this, being emotional does not justify murder, you simply spend less time in jail if you kill someone out of emotion. you are still culpable.
>A spokesman for Bromsgrove District Council responded: "With regard to the barbed wire, when this is identified on site, we are obliged to request its removal or remove it on health and safety grounds to the general public, as this is a liability issue. This is a requirement enforced by our health and safety department."
UK is the most cucked part of Europe. Even in the Netherlands you can kill thieves and not get charged.
dude has no fucking guilt of being put in a situation where he has to fight to his death
that dude is not going to harm anyone who doesn't try to fucking kill him and should be walking free on the streets because he is a decent human being
and pumped full of adrenaline
i get it, people take time to bleed, and with adrenaline pumping and everything going on it's difficult to tell what's happening to your body, do you understand the damage and shock built up that quickly? the intruder was definitely disabled quickly. even with adrenaline you're not gonna be getting up for a 17-torso stab methinks. Chances are the dude was collapsing near the end of this shit and was doomed anyways, it's still excessive no matter how you push the narrative.
Being emotional doesn't justify murder but someone bursting into your home armed certainly justifies defending yourself, and even murdering someone, as long as your intention wasn't murder from the outset.
I mean, he should take this bullshit to the logical extreme and sue the state because a cop didn't appear there to protect him.
I'm disgusted by American idiocy in general but this isn't like that at all. Someone armed threatens you, you should be pretty much allowed to do anything that's not outright murder with full intent. You can't really assess so easily if someone is incapacitated or not in a few seconds.
Stabbing someone means nothing. I saw with my own eyes a guy being stabbed twice and he still knocked down the attacker before others rushed in. He was still standing, leaning on the wall when ambulance came.
>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST KILL THE ROBBER HE HAD A FAMILY TOO
Baboon.
well dudes, you are entitled to your opinion, but the law of the land says there is a fine line between self-defense and murder. and the line drawn is stabbing a guy 17 times with most of the wounds from the back.
BASED
the law in the land of anglo cucks where you take down barbed wire to not hurt thiefs and get your butterknife taken by the gov
well now you're just going off tangents.
This happens in other countries all the time. It is case by case
I agree with you in principle but you place too much emphasis on ''17 times''. You can do that in 10-15 seconds, if you get my point. And as I told you, stabbing someone once, unless you're a trained killer, probably won't do much. You need to know where to stab in order to use knife effectively.
He was channeling his inner Varg
>the cultural background of the country does not reflect which laws will pass
>NOOOOOOOOOO YOU GOTTA LET ME TORTURE THIS PERSON AND GIVE HIM A PAINFUL DEATH BECAUSE HE SET FOOT IN MY HOUSE NOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE HECKING PRIVATE PROPERTERINO
he clearly entrapped the burglar with the express purpose of committing murder. Hope he gets the book thrown
Your country sentences people all the time for it though
Yeah
What do you want me to do about it? I hate how little value human life has. Muh material possessions.
Entering someone's house armed and setting foot in someone's house isn't the same thing.
>And set a plan into motion: moving his truck to appear as if he weren't home, activating an audio recorder in his basement, loading his guns and settling into a basement reading chair with water, snacks and a novel.
autism
Five years is a bit much. Strict castle doctrine, I don't know about that, though. If a fight breaks out in my home and you end up dead, who's to say you didn't start it? It's not like you can plead your case.
well im sure the medical examiner went over that with the court, distinguishing how many wounds were located in the back, how deep they were and what kind of force and how long it would take to inflict those wounds. to us that's not available.
NO JUDGE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND HE HAD A KNIFE!!11!!!1!! I HAVE THE RIGHT TO BOIL HIM ALIVE FOR THAT
He died on your property so you're liable
You're right.