Could anyone tell me why is it allowed to glorify traitors who cause the most disgusting internal conflict in the United States?
i mean in countries like Russia all the traitors got shot and hanged, and no one glorifies them today
Could anyone tell me why is it allowed to glorify traitors who cause the most disgusting internal conflict in the United States?
i mean in countries like Russia all the traitors got shot and hanged, and no one glorifies them today
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Treason against the south?
Freeing the slaves and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
>in countries like Russia all the traitors got shot and hanged
If that were true, all of the KGB and commie governors would be in siberia
Lincoln wanted to send them back to africa
No,the the americans completely neglected afro-american communities and left them to degenerate into the absolute cultural garbage they are today.
slaves destroyed greece
slaves destroyed rome
slaves destroyed any arab nation
so why did Americans think it is wise to import some from Africa
it was just banter
russians love to glorify the imperial regime are you kidding
How did they destroy arab nations?
By making them brown, unlike a certain red-haired man with white belly and arms who founded their religion.
see what happened with the guys who cooperated with nazis
everything about your post is wrong but the last part
>slaves destroyed every arab nation
actually i remember watching a video and some boomers from the south lived in a plantation style house and defended the flag saying it was their heritage, well i dont see german boomers flying the nazi flag
they do russia has a very big neonazi movement
but what fucking heritage though
yeah where are the statues of their commanders, their flags, the bullshit of defending MUH HERITAGE and russian taxpay money maintaning all that
Almost no one actually cares about glorifying the Confederate States. But Lost Causer historians famously dominated much of the narrative surrounding the Civil War for decades and we still haven't fully rid the national consciousness of their lies yet.
Trump should start doing it after he gets re elected, and tell the boomers how the confederates were democrats who hate america just like Pelosi and chuck schummer
I just like the confederate flag because it makes yankees seethe.
But I don't associate with it.
How is enslaving negroes a evil and not a glory?
Btw.
You are completely ignoring the fact that US macro-regions have always had rivalries. And the most famous will always be North(east) vs. South(east)
Because Southerners are arrogant without anything to show for it.
Prideful for the sake of pride.
They don't see the Confederacy for what it did or actually represented, just that it's their heritage and ebil libruls are trying to stop them from being proud of it.
Lincoln was much too lenient on them.
He ought to have shipped every Negro back to Africa and publicly hanged every Confederate soldier.
It's just another way people want to feel special and/or part of a group, but also stand against the increasing homogenization of the US and what they see as a "dilution" of southern culture. I seriously doubt any of them have some deep opinions on the economics of cotton and slavery. It's all very surface level.
lmao we already have that.
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Geography, culture, and really good timing, and a bit of what this guy said After the war, the traitors were let back into the union, because after all, they were still Americans with the same history. There was a major push to reintegrate them into American society, "we are all brothers", calling the war "a war between brothers", almost to the point of completely forgiving their entire rebellion.
This evolved into something called the "Lost Cause" pseudo-historical analysis. That the confederates were bravely trying to defend their way of life. Which pretty much every southerner held by the 1900s.
The Civil War is the most studied even in American history. And there are certainly many Confederate victories, for most of the war actually, and many great Confederate commanders, like Lee or Stonewall. Even academics in American agree that confederates "fought the good fight" so to speak, and were worthy, albeit wrong, opponents
Then, the Civil War soldiers started dying of old age around the start of WW1, when America was emerging a world power, and becoming super patriotic during WW1. So many sons and grandsons of the confederate soldiers wanted to honor their memory by making statues and monuments
Then around the 1960s and 1970s, the Confederate Flag became a symbol for general rebellion and edginess, not necessarily tied to the Civil war
Combine all 5 and you basically get what it is today
why do you want to give them free shit
>Lincoln was much too lenient on them.
>He ought to have shipped every Negro back to Africa and publicly hanged every Confederate soldier.
This
Trump is been saying on his last rallies that the republican party is the party of Lincoln, and also praised grant for kocking the hell out of the confederacy
>No,the the americans completely neglected afro-american communities and left them to degenerate into the absolute cultural garbage they are today.
You mean the southerners who went out of their way to fuck up any attempt for blacks not to be sub-humans whether it was from the feds or blacks themselves.
>You mean the southerners who went out of their way to fuck up any attempt for blacks not to be sub-humans
Niggers deserve worse
>Prideful for the sake of pride.
At least we aren't afraid to be proud
>Lincoln was much too lenient on them.
>He ought to have shipped every Negro back to Africa and publicly hanged every Confederate soldier.
Your great great granddaddy's buried in my backyard LMAO!
Red Pill: In hindsight, Lincoln's imperialistic policy of Westerward Expansion for white farmers was much more beneficial to white southerners than the institution of slavery
>Trump is been saying on his last rallies
Drop the proxy lmao
Reminder northerner Invaders in the south despised the negro and committed many massacres of southern negroes and dreaded them leaving their rural plantations.
i hoinestly find that people should be so pigheaded as to unironically embrace it today to be a disgusting fact, but it is aesthetic
Southerners dreaded them as well, one of the reasons to keep them enslaved
>Reminder northerner Invaders in the south despised the negro and committed many massacres of southern negroes
imagine believing this is a bad thing
It was more than neglect, it was active suppression from the political, communal, and financial spheres of American life through policy, social pressures, and violence, both state and mob.
I don't envy that shit.
Reminder that the CSA managed to hurt the U.S. military more than any of you pussy-assed foreigners ever have done.
Maybe rich southerners shouldnt have been trying to collect them if they are so bad. Seems like it would have been easy to leave them on their continent.
Literally the whole affair could have been avoided if we just had a worthy foreign opponent, since none existed we had to go to war with ourselves, our most worthy opponent
The based Vietcong beat both of your combined might.
Beating someone to a stumpy pulp and inflicting permanent damage, then saying fuck it and leaving is NOT losing
Americans just think about short-term profit. Long-term consequences just aren't thought about ever in our culture
That's what the union did to the confederacy not the USA to the Vietcong
Southerner here. I've heard that a lot for different reasons from different age groups. The younger generation mainly just picked up on the commercialization of the flag as "the rebel flag" so they were raised that it just means they're a rebel, not a city slicker, drives a truck and goes muddin, likes to have a good time, and only fears God. Then they get defensive when less rural areas bring up their non-Southern rural history of it and what it means to people, and they feel those SJW libruls are just trying to take their culture and Southern pride, without consciously understanding what that symbol and "pride" were built on and basically just think history is as old as them.
The older groups have a more matured sense of "the natural order of things" after being raised during or right after segregation and were probably raised in households with a lot more explicit anger by parents during the civil rights era. An anger of perceived loss of power and respect in society, which is relatively true. They cling to the flag, sure as a race thing to some degree, but a lot as saying they rebel against a changing America and remember what the South is about and won't be told to change their traditions and sense of heritage (which a lot of urban and suburban white Americans struggle with themselves) because some upity negro in the White House tells him it's time too or those upper class homosexuals from the city want to get married and want his okay on it. He's not going to admit he's ashamed for being white and raised in the South, cause he's not, he's proud of his experience.
Unfortunately, they usually come off as asses about it, deny uncomfortable histories and traditions that arise from that, and generally try to double down and project and cement their lifestyle in policy, even nationwide. Just my two cents on it.
whats so good about larping as a rebel
The Confederate States of America were the closest thing we've ever had to a libertarian state and its right to secede was legitimate.
All the evil mexicans have suffered has been plotted by Yanks and to this day no southener has ever called me a beaner.
Go fuck yourself OP faggot.
me alegra que hayan ganado los yankis y que con eso se fusilara al maricon francés ese de hasburgo
>and to this day no southener has ever called me a beaner.
Implying they don't have the thought in their minds lmao, deluded mexican schizo
Bump for justice
Because it's a symbol of rebellion, and the rebel spirit has always been the American ideal. The US rebelled against England in the first place. The south rebelled against the north, but no sane person holds it against the south - they had their reasons, and they fought well enough.
More specifically, the US wanted southerners to fight America's imperial wars. Confederate flags started appearing in US military units by the time of the Spanish-American war (late-1890's), and by World War I, southerners were actually encouraged to join the US military, fly their flags openly, etc. That was the agreement.
made me laugh
Slave revolts took over the arab world.
>Confederate flags started appearing in US military units by the time of the Spanish-American war (late-1890's), and by World War I, southerners were actually encouraged to join the US military, fly their flags openly, etc. That was the agreement.
this is interesting
Underrated post
hes talking about the White Guard, numbskull
People who rebel are by definition exercising their personal freedom, I guess? Freedom=America
Sand nibbers just replaced the slave trade with oil
More oil. more stability and structure just like slavery
>The Confederate States of America were the closest thing we've ever had to a libertarian state
Because nothing is more libertarian than owning slaves, right?
Because the side that won supported free speech
In fact the amount of small and midsized farms in the South had been steadily shrinking as more and more land fell under the control of giant plantations. The war had a major leveling effect that allowed poorer Southern whites to own land which was not possible for them 15 years earlier.
There's no actual legislation that legitimately bans it other than from flying it on public property in most states
Blacks and half blacks are the only ones who really bitch about it