Association between those twos existed and they were never in conflicts...

Association between those twos existed and they were never in conflicts. Why everyones is constantly ignoring their strange relationship?

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Because they're not retarded, like you France. Thanks for the gold, you fucker.

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the only relationship between Spain and Germany are drunken german tourists on Mallorca and spanish students working in some hipster bar in Berlin.

It's none of your business, now please delete this thread.

I guess they fought in the lowlands a few times? Right? Or was that someone else...

If only Spain could have a kaisereich instead of retard king.

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Rural Spain would have to have been educated as well as urban in maths and sciences and have a meritocratic system

We‘ve always been BFFs. Who can forget when Franco told Hitler to bomb his own country?

Because they have France as a buffer nation and the Pyrenees as a natural border? Like it it pretty hard to get into a turf war with Spain even for Germany.

The title of the monarch doesn't really matter.
It's like there was something between them that made them frens.

Why was Germany successful but Hungary not?

Based bros, no more european brother wars

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You forgot about the Hasburgs and the Holy Roman Empire? Charles Quint ruled you all.

That was great. Fuck Guernika.

Because Hungary was Turked and had to take the Austrians as overlords to stay Christian. Austrians are very bad overlords.
Habsburgs are your friendly Swiss noble family that knows how to play the game.

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Weren't Hasburgs Austrians? Anyway Germany and Spain were once ruled by Spanish-Austrians mutts overlords who hated protestants.

Why was France relatively successful but Italy not?

>Spain
>Southern Italy
>Lombardy
>Austria and Germany
>The netherlands
Honestly one of the weirdest empires ever

No, they originate from Switzerland and are 100% Gsibergers. They just happened to become archdukes of Austria and a couple other things, then they got kicked out of Switzerland.

France has a centralist approach since 1214 and the battle of Bouvines, Italy has been divided between a federalized and urbanized North and a highly feudal South that was depending on being the bread basket of the world, they united just at the moment as the industrial revolution kicked in and American and Russian wheat flooded the markets, turning the North into a powerhouse and the South into a poverty zone.

Spain should have copied the Prussian or french system in the 1800s instead it remained mideval.

shut up the world must not know

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>You forgot about the Hasburgs and the Holy Roman Empire?
Nobody has forgotten about the Roman Holy Empire!

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Poland and all eastern europe should be there too

basado

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Hungary is in a very shit geographical position. The whole Carpathian basin was a giant swamp before the 19th century. Also the Carpathians basically blocks any northward or eastward expansion. Our river system also sucks. Literally every stream or river flows into the Danube then into the Black Sea. That basically ruins our trading capabilities. Also Hungary doesn't really had rich coal or iron deposits. Also Hungarian society developed in a way that made the central power really weak. Also Ottomans.

The retarded ignorant low iq peasant won bringing dark ages to Spain instead of technological and educational progress.

Afrancesado (Spanish: [afɾanθeˈsaðo], Portuguese: [ɐfɾɐ̃sɨˈzaðu]; "Francophiles" or "turned-French", lit. "Frenchified" or "French-alike") refers to the Spanish and Portuguese partisan of Enlightenment ideas, Liberalism or the French Revolution.[citation needed]

In principle, Afrancesados were upper-and-middle class supporters of the French occupation of Iberia (Portugal and Spain), either as a way improving different aspects of life —preferring the reforms that the "enlightened despots", Napoleon and, in Spain, his brother Joseph, could impose— or, as a lesser evil, to avoid the consequences of outright war with the greatest military power in Europe.[1]

They were still not industrialized. Britain was the first one and they were doing that for a very long time.

Spain is a farm animal prevented from industrialization by lowly educated conservatives and Germany and Austria are well oiled industrial power machines.

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Portugal is just an owl

Because spaniards are brown, dumb and ugly. I'm CHI and I'm whiter than 99% of these moors living in the iberian peninsula

Nah, Spain didn't stay "medieval". The liberal revolution (that started in 1808) was pretty important there and its influence shapped other countries' constitutions in Europe and America. The country was simply devastated by the Napoleonic war, much more than others.

Yes you are correct. The first Emperor to rule HRE and all of the Spains, Charles(number varies by kingdom) had a 100% spanish mother, daughter of Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castille, who completed the reconquista. His father was a Habsburg Duke of Burgundy.

So Charlie Miller-Hernandez the muttgod, ruled over all the europoors

Liberals were planning to faggotize and mongrelize Spain, so traditional catholic Carlists taught three wars to to prevent it.

Bruh Hungary was under gommunism for half a century

our interests rarely collided

Liberalization was concerned with revoking priviliges of nobility as well as strengthening the country not with homosex.

It's weird and can't explain why but you felt like they are real brother nations with strangely similar history, culture and way of thinking

Wat

Add to the postwar devastation the worst king this country and maybe all of europe ever had to endure

come home, real brother

what was so bad about him?

This is what I felt too, they seems more closer than what most people believe.

We have nothing in common

Exceot vandals suebis Visigoths allemanis Frank's etc..

We're saudi arabia's brothers too then

>our interests rarely collided
putting italy under the boot and making sure that france wont ruin europe

This, we have more arabic words than germanic ones

And Habsburg also lowlanders belonged to Spain for centuries and settled in Spain

We are friends with catholic southern germans (Austria) protestant nord germans get the rope

Andalusia comes from land of the vandals.

All surnames ending in ez is of germanic
origin, Guerra is of germanic origin, hermano is Germanic, Carlos is a Germanic name, fernando is Germanic.

Of the 5 most common surnames top is Basque the other 3 are Germanic 1 is Latin

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Voz patrimonial del latín germanus ‘carnal’, elisión de (frater) germanus ‘hermano de padre y madre’, en el que germanus tiene el sentido de ‘verdadero, auténtico’, ‘carnal’. Germanus con el nuevo significado de ‘hermano’ sustituye al latín frater ‘hermano’, que no pervive en español. V. fraterno
Hermano comes from Latin. Your name has become the retarded of this board by now

When napoleon invaded instead of putting himself at the front of the revolution he was fine with being imprisoned in a french palace. When Spain won its freedom back all by itself, he returned and claimed the victory for himself, then eliminated the just created spanish constitution to go back to absolutism. This leaded to democratic revolts that were supressed with lots of carnages and by asking for foreign aid against his own people- He didn't give a shit about his subjects and would send them all to noose without trouble, even the capable members of the government. Multiple famines he didn't care to send help for, and forbade the nobles from helping them. Remade the inquisition, supressed all individual rights. Lost all of latin america. Only cared about religion and party.

I could go on but you can get yourself an idea.

I got that mixed up with something else mybad

You both were decentralized af and has a lot of regional identities and differences to this day

You both were trying to remove Jews at some period of time, both were ruled by Habsburgs,both had wars about centralization of your countries, both were main places of fights between leftists and rightists with ultimate victory latter side. And now you're both liberal af and have some kind of guilt from the past

You both tends to be autistic and chose autistic ideologies like Inquisition and Catholic fundamentalism, francoism, anarchism in your country and Lutheranism, nazism, Communism (it was German invention after all) in Germany

FUCK germany

based