/balt/ + /ausnz/

u keep losing it?

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Based

Why are balts so based?
Usually i need to quide peoples but balts are completely different

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Had something saying you're smelling your own chair but forgot the punchline

We have the privilege of dealing with both the gay shit from the West and dumb shit from the East so people get blackpilled

i've had it with you racist pricks
from now on, no more racism allowed on /balt/
those breaking the rule will be severely punished

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fuck off litvinist

Cringe

We are no much different then

>>Lithuania is named after Lithuanian tribes that conquered it's neighbors. Rulers from the start and succeeding dynasties all had their roots in gediminids, which were proven to be of baltic stock. Disproportionate amount of nobility compared to population were from Lithuanian/ Samogitian stock.
>>"...proven..."
By whom? Gudavičius' theorems? KEK ANY source to said proof or simply evidence of that being the case, please.

>>Also, in letters between Jogaila and Vytautas it is said that Ruthenian are foreign to them and it is proven that they could speak Lithuanian.

No, faggot. Said letters have one reminding the other about a time in a gathering "when we communicated in a language which no one else there understood"

>>"...said that Ruthenian are foreign to them...it is proven that they could speak Lithuanian..." ANY PRIMARY SAUCE PLS. ANY WILL DO FOR EITHER STATEMENT. ANY... any....

Also, not litvinist. Do not support Yermalovich's theorems. But neither do I support mouth breather pan-Baltic statements like "Lithuanian empire? Totally the achievement of Baltic Lithuanians! Well if you want we can say Samogitians too."(simply attributing all implied glory to today's Lithuanians without any factual historical basis to make such a strong "IT WAS US" connection)

based

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lol I actually laughed

Rare Kranklis

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Me too, btw iv needed to reset my internet connection so many times due that picture.

Im glad someone made some sue of it

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There have been several attempts to associate Lietuva with Celtic toponyms, and with Latin or Italian words, but these attempts all lack strong linguistic support. According to a widespread popular belief, the word Lietuva (Lithuania) originated from the Lithuanian words lyti (to rain) and lietus (rain).[7][8] However, there is no serious scientific support for this theory. Since the word Lietuva has a suffix (-uva), the original word should have no suffix. A likely candidate is Lietā. Because many Baltic ethnonyms originated from hydronyms, linguists have searched for its origin among local hydronyms. Usually such names evolved through the following process: hydronym toponym ethnonym.[9]

A small river not far from Kernavė, the core area of the early Lithuanian state and a possible first capital of the would-be Grand Duchy of Lithuania, is usually credited as the source of the name. This river's original name is Lietava.[9] As time passed, the suffix -ava could have changed into -uva, as the two are from the same suffix branch. The river flows in the lowlands and easily spills over its banks, therefore the traditional Lithuanian form liet- could be directly translated as lietis (to spill), of the root derived from the Proto-Indo-European *leyǝ-.[10] However, the river is very small and some find it improbable that such a small and local object could have lent its name to an entire nation. On the other hand, such a fact is not unprecedented in world history.[4]

While the word's etymology continues to be debated, scientists agree that the primary origins of the ethnonym were the Lithuanian forms *Lētuvā/Lietuva, which were then used by different languages, including Slavic. It is very unlikely for the name to have derived from a Slavic language, since the Slavic -i- (и) could never be transliterated into the Lithuanian diphthong -ie-.[4]

Here, faggot
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Lithuania

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>t. žydnegris

>bible
>le epic salute
cringe

trust test
#YOLO

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Who Estonia,Latvia, Lithuania?

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it's a girl(male) tho

Est Lit lat

whenever we watching it with my friends, i was the gray one

dont post tranny shit

lit est lat

>No, faggot. Said letters have one reminding the other about a time in a gathering "when we communicated in a language which no one else there understood"
so during the expansion and the peak of GDL, the ruling class spoke lithuanian and was of baltic descent? damn, now it totally makes sense why people say that Lithuanian empire is an an achievement of baltic lithuanians, thanks for clearing things up dude

>motorcycle mice from mars
mein neger

that's a boy

>>Links page with info about looking for origins of Baltic word "Lietuva" with an attached statement by Zinkevičius, who in his quoted article starts with "Lietuva" and starts building from there, saying "slavs transformed ie to i", etc. Even though oldest recorded use of "ie" in the name happened a looot later. But it's okay, he still starts with essentially "SOO HOW DID LIE TURN TO LI" KEK... kind of like a guy saying "So, if God made the universe, how could some things today contradict the bible. Let's discuss theories."

Autistic or trolling? Again, not a shred of evidence they spoke what is called Lithuanian today or some form of it.

LMAO, so now you're backpedaling into "well y-yeah, they spoke lithuanian, BUT what if the lithuanian that they spoke was different from modern lithuanian??"
stop being a wewuzzing retard

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Anime is THE epitome of artistry

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>Yes because it makes more sense that slavs expanded into pagan lands and adopted their name, made locals unproportionally into majority nobility, while underrepresenting themselves, made capitals in said pagan lands and even ruler learned some farmers languages.
You are either brainlet, putin shill or litvinist. Go neck yourself.

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Off yourself, faggot. What part of
>>...not a shred of evidence they spoke what is called Lithuanian today or some form of it.
didn't you understand? Do you have a hart time with English, or just reading in general?
Literally said there's not any shred of evidence they spoke ANYTHING even similar to the language.
Provide ANY evidence if you're stating that they did, you autist.
Re-read what I wrote if it takes you that long to sink in.

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>Literally said there's not any shred of evidence they spoke ANYTHING even similar to the language.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catechism_of_Martynas_Mažvydas
Even today you can sorta understand it.
Retard.

About that, post your worst dubbings from 90's
We have this fucking terrible masterpiece sounds like pub rose singing karaoke.

youtube.com/watch?v=kQpaT9rhiog
This ended my childhood

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literally just open a wikipedia
>It is known that Vytautas himself knew and spoke in the Lithuanian language with Władysław II Jagiełło.[4][5]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vytautas#cite_note-4
please keep on going, your wewuzzing is starting to get hilarious

meant for

What a fucking retard. Again returns to declarative statements for which he has no evidence for.
>>adopted their name
>>locals disproportional majority nobility
>>underrepresenting themselves
Not a single one of your statements has ONE SHRED OF HISTORICAL EVIDENCE. IN ANY SOURCE. NOTHING FACTUAL.
Again, I'm not a Yermalovich shill, but neither am I a Gudavičius shill. Modern day nationalist shills of either of the two trying to attribute it to what they are can suck a big fat loaf of shit.

But your retarded circular reasoning with 0 evidence and then STILL returning to it yet again is high on-par with any kind of Belarusian nationalists. Same tier for sure, if not even more.

>worst dubbings from 90's
Oh, sweet!
In 90's ALL foreign shit in Latvia was in Russian.
Why? Because there was no monetary reason for dubing

>Tai, kad Vytautas Didysis ir Jogaila tarpusavy iki pat mirties kalbėjo lietuviškai, rodo vienas 1429 metų Vytauto laiškas Jogailai, kuriame Lietuvos valdovas primena Jogailai vieną situaciją Lucko suvažiavime rašydamas: prisimeni, kai mes tuo metu kalbėjome kalba, kurios niekas nesuprato? >Lucko suvažiavime dalyvavęs Šv. Romos imperatorius Zigmantas Liuksemburgas mokėjo vokiečių, lenkų ir rusėnų kalbas, vadinasi, mūsų valdovai tam, kad jų nesuprastų, tarpusavy galėjo kalbėtis tik lietuviškai.

i wonder what mental gymnastics will you use now

i love how you try to paint yourself as some sort of rational thinker yet you deliberately ignore all the evidence that that the ruling class spoke lithuanian
neck yourself incel

>Lithuanian tribes
The territory of the Balts, including modern Lithuania, was once inhabited by several Baltic tribal entities (Aukštaitians, Sudovians, Old Lithuanians, Curonians, Semigallians, Selonians, Samogitians, Skalvians, Old Prussians (Nadruvians)), as attested by ancient sources and dating from prehistoric times. Over the centuries, and especially under the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, some of these tribes consolidated into the Lithuanian nation, mainly as a defence against the marauding Teutonic Order and Eastern Slavs. The last Pagan peoples in Europe, they were eventually converted to Christianity in 1387.
>>locals disproportional majority nobility
>>underrepresenting themselves
Just count up how many nobles had baltic origins and how many had ruthenian ones. Now consider that balts were like 10% of gdl population.

Your mental gymnastics are funny.

I'm done arguing with this retard. Have fun convincing him through his down syndrome.

I feel sorry for you cant feel same time dostaltic yet laugh same time for poor dubs.
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Don't even know what these 2 argue about

>Not a single one of your statements has ONE SHRED OF HISTORICAL EVIDENCE. IN ANY SOURCE. NOTHING FACTUAL.
lt.litviny.net/lietuvos-didikai.html
read up faggot, all the evidence with sources is provided

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LOOK AT THE SOURCE FOR SAID STATEMENT, YOU AUTISTIC FAGGOT. Just because a Lithuanian nationalist punched out a theoretical article on his personal website, having no historical sources whatsoever to back his theorems up does not make his statements a true fact.
Your quoted statement is just the same shit I answered in the previous thread. It's all based on that letter which doesn't mention or imply Lithuanian in ANY kind of way.

Why IN THE FUCK are you attributing that book to any ruler of Lithuania? AT ALL? Specially Vytautas/Jogaila(using names used in our country today).

Absolute retarded ultra-nationalists. Again, 0 evidence and makes declarative statement "ruling class spoke lithuanian" ... Brilliant. It's like talking to a Jesus freak. "Such is the word of God, how can you be so stupid?!"

soo, you think that this statement
>Lucko suvažiavime dalyvavęs Šv. Romos imperatorius Zigmantas Liuksemburgas mokėjo vokiečių, lenkų ir rusėnų kalbas, vadinasi, mūsų valdovai tam, kad jų nesuprastų, tarpusavy galėjo kalbėtis tik lietuviškai.
is wrong?

ok, im off to get more beer, fuck niggers and fuck corona

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Good dubz

In 2000s we got dubs, but I can't find any posted on YouTube

youtube.com/watch?v=bqicAtsQbmk

had a good shit until it came to wiping, so much tp to wipe it off, now I understand tp hoarders

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some dude tries to be le epic individualistic centrist thinker, outs himself as a retard that talks about things he has no knowledge and understanding of

reminds of these kids in uni that wear all black and are contrarian for the sake of standing out since they have no skills or talents

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miss vargs youtube channel so much

I crave speķi

based varg
he has a bitchute

>bitchute
but he doesn't post there