Land of the free

Lincoln did nothing wrong, he freed the slaves.

>X is bad therefore Y isn't bad, because it goes against X

yes
beautiful capitalism in its purest form
hang yourself commie

>WHADDYA MEAN WE CANT OWN THE HECKING NIGGERINOS AND CHANGE THE RACIAL MAKEUP OF THE U.S N000000000 MUH HECKING STATES RIGHTERINOS

>What is Sweden doing for Italy right now? What did Germany do for Greece during economic crisis?
if you don't consider the answer to these questions to be completely self-evident you're a full-on retard. I'm disregarding the rest of your (completely dumb-ass) post to make a point of how fucking wrong you are on this specific point

>And the fact you can just leave a Union means its not a Union at all. Union should mean something. All for one and one for all.

Lmao, coping cuck.

>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST FORBID ME FROM HAVING SLAVES

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>If you secede from this government that seceded from a government they viewed as unjust we will start the largest war in north america and kill thousands of americans
>oh we used slavery to industrialize and now we want to ban it time to start a huge war even though in the south slavery would eventually be abolished anyway if they gave it time and people in the south are afraid of a slave revolt after what happened in haiti
Just think millions if americans died because some bearded fag wanted to have his face on the penny.

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>O' I'm good ol' rebel, and that's just what I am
>And for this Yankee nation I do nly give damn

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exact same mentality used to justify invading the Middle East

Unions are gay. Why should someone have to stay if they don't want to? Fuck Union.

Those were literal LOANS the opposite of real help. Germany FUCKED them when they needed help the most. Are you joking me?

I don't see them evident at all. No.

>Durrr own shitskins for labor even though tractors exist huhuhu

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>Rebel Yell

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Well you live in a Union. So too bad.

>Implying Abe would do something for just glory

Begone Leaf

>Well you live in a Union. So too bad.

Shit you sound like a fucking boomer

Who cares. Have fun living in a Union.

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Unifying the states was the biggest mistake in this cunts existent
Now my tax dollars go to fat southern swine that blame others for being fat and poor
Rather my tax dollars go to illegals. At least they work and are better educated.

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Ok boomer cuck

t. not even in a real union

I didn't mention slaves once mentally ill kiwi fag

You want me to be sad that my country hasn't cucked away it's own sovereignity?

Won't happen.

god if you pushed this woman down she wouldn't be able to get back up. i would like to see that happen.

I don't want you to be sad. Of course not.
But I would like to see EU pull out all the stops to save Italy and Spain.

>But I would like to see EU pull out all the stops to save Italy and Spain.
Won't happen. We'll be just as fucked in a week anyway. It's only a matter of time.

Lincoln freeing the slaves isn't what most people are upset about in regards to the Civil War. It's that the war set a precedent for the cost of secession and quite literally killed the notion of it and the identity of the individual state. The United States should be more aptly named The United Territories because the "States" exercise hardly any real sovereignty. The "states" are just more like big counties.

The difference being that the Civil War actually resulted in the freeing of slaves whereas Iraq was just a slaughter.

Oh, are we doing America Is Horrible storytime again? I got one!

>Be Hawaii
>Racial equality enshrined in constitution
>Bicameral gov't based off British system
>S'all good
>Be 'Murka
>Have "revolutionaries" who happen to be American businessmen
>overthrow the monarchy backed by troops from the USS Boston
>Import segregation
>Demographically replace natives
>Hold a "democratic" vote for statehood once they're gone
>Finally offer a begrudged apology over a century later
>Bunch of senators buttmad; condemn apology because
>it admits U.S. culpability

Land of the free! Woo!

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>Future Dictator of Mississippi

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>>land of the free
>wants to continue to own people
Can't be 'free to leave' if you're leaving to keep people not free.

Not to forget Puerto Rico, the Phillipines, Native Americans.

The US has always fought to surpress freedom. Ican't believe anyone actually bought the "muh freedom" meme

Good. Federalism was the right choice and we can see why watching Europe fall the fuck apart again. States-rights losers need to give up the ghost, we've had this argument for 300 years and every time state-huggers have lost to big Fed.

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Remember that american "freedom" was always intended to be only for causasian anglo-saxon germanic protestants only, the rest of people were seen as unworthy of freedom as recently as 40 years ago. This is the satanic state americans defend and love so much

>unironically defending slavers

Northerners were the ones who supplied the rest of the continent with slaves. Regardless of the civil war, I support the balkanization of the US.

Tolstoy admired Lincoln for a reason. Go away retard Leaf, your entire nation would be part of the USA if it wasnt for the UK protecting you during the 1800s

I wish slavery was illegal in the colonies from the start so niggers would've never been brought here

t. Jose Carlos

The native replacement had been ongoing for decades and started during the reign of Kamehameha III

Even though the South fired first?

thats retarded the south started it. It's not like we waged war immediately after the succession.

don't want to defend the murrilards
but the left are countries
while the right are just the administrative divisions

fag

States have a fair amount of sovereignity
>tobacco laws
>age of consent
>capital punishment
>alcohol laws
>taxes

Please have sex or read books. It is not at all common for people to get killed for leaving Islam in many parts, if not the majority, of the Islamic world. That type of thing is relegated to only some schools of Islamic thought

States can’t set tobacco laws anymore and the federal government withholds funds if they set laws against federal guidelines on alcohol so they effectively can’t set those either.

ok fair but my other three stand

The Constitution does pretty clearly define what powers are delegated to the states and the Federal government. What did happen was that the South for a very long time (until the 1960s) openly flouted the Bill of Rights and got away with it, particularly in how Southern Congressmen using their voting power to prevent Federal anti-lynching legislation from being passed even though lynchings obviously violated the 4th and 5th and 6th and 8th Amendments.

>States can’t set tobacco laws anymore
They certainly can unless there's a Constitutional amendment stating otherwise. The Federal government has exclusive authority to regulate interstate or international commerce, but whatever stays within a state stays within a state. That was for example why Prohibition was written as an amendment to the Constitution, so that states were thence required to obey it.

>attack fort sumter
>wtf you can't wage war on us i thought this was a free country we're trying to secede from

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what powers are delegated to the states?

The surprising thing is that until the 1930s or so, most Americans didn't really give a shit about the Bill of Rights except insofar as it conferred freedom to call any public figure you didn't like an asshole. In addition, until Gitlow vs New York (1925) it was generally maintained that the BOR applied to the Federal government only and states were under no obligation to follow it.