Does Spain still have unironic Francoists? Or are they just a dying breed?

No one cares about Franco except for leftists to destroy Spanish morality at all accusations of their political will as being illigitimate and undemocratic.

When their own political desires were on the side of undemocratic communist dictatorship to force their desires

Who wanted to force feminism and destruction of the existence of ethnic groups?
Undemocratic Soviet Union.
If pro ethnic group policy is undemocratic because of fascists then so is anti ethnic group policy due to undemocratic dictatorships founded on equality.

Why do people hate Franco? What did he do wrong exactly?

He was undemocratic and wasn't utopian and opposed communism/anarchism, I wouldn't support Franco as I'm democratic 100%.

>He was undemocratic and wasn't utopian and opposed communism/anarchism
All good things

old people are closeted francoist
ive spoken with old people that talk about how Madrid was super safe during franco and people left their cars unlocked, because if you did something bad you'd get the beating of your life and get thrown in some awful prison.

Then democracy came and police became more lax and you could get robbed at knifepoint in madrid if you had a nice coat or anything like that. Shitloads of gypsies also commited many crimes because they knew they couldnt get sent to jail until they were 18.

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>I wouldn't support Franco as I'm democratic 100%.

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He wrecked Spanish economy and society. He set us back decades with respect to the rest of Europe. Even countries that were bombed into oblivion in WW2 like Germany and Austria went back to normal earlier than us.

I believe in funding many intellectuals to oppose Marxism and communism writing thousands of books and spreading the information in schools etc... Just as they do with their own Marxist thought, and eventually convincing all of our own people otherwise and those whose only mind is on destroying the others ban.

My grandpa is full francoist. He doesn't openly admit it, but I know he is.

>He wrecked Spanish economy and society.
those were the falangist socialist-style reforms that were in place until 1959, wich made government-enforced prices for products causing shortages of food and the rationing and black market our great grandparents know about.

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It's mostly a divorced boomer thing.

You were a shithole long before Franco was even born Paco. My ancestors fled Spain in the 1860's.

>He doesn't openly admit it
>old people are closeted francoist
Why are they so cucked? Why can't they just say it lmao

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a lot of old people have sweet memories of francoism because during late francoism spain experienced a huge economic boom after 2 decades of poverty
you can literally see the point that the spanish economy opened up to the world in 1959 and the spanish miracle happened
if you studied history you would know of the chaos in the 19th century in Spain. it was only with the borbonic restoration (1874 - 1931) that spain finally became stable for a few decades.
spain had a "normal" economy until the civil war happened. civil war literally brought our economy and quality of life back to 19th century levels. then the cunts of france kept thinking that spain was francoist in the 80's and blocked us from joining the EU, and shot at our fishermen. then the french farmers kept attacking our trucks even tho we are in the free trade european union, because french farmers have worse products and worse prices that couldnt compete with the spanish products.

The Counter-Marxism.

Did Franco even have a coherent ideology other than "I should be in power"?

what else did you expect from frogs? it's only natural they are slimy
day of the stork when?

>He wrecked Spanish economy and society.
But I thought the economy improved greatly under Franco after, you know, you basically isolated yourselves from the rest of Europe and the USA after the civil war for awhile. I mean we didn't even include you guys in the Marshall Plan because, despite receiving no economic aid from the Axis after your civil war ended, and your neutrality in the war plus caring for etc refugees, we deemed you "too pro Axis". That's the main reason why every other country but you developed so fast desu, we tried to build up western Europe as a bulwark against the spread of communism then the
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_miracle
Happened under Franco after he got the IMF involved and joined a bunch of trade organizations to liberalize the economy.

His own brand of authoritarian conservatism. He wasn't even really a fascist desu. In fact a lot of the Falangists didn't really like him

the funny thing is that the 19th century shitfest he reffers to originates directly from the french revolution and the napoleonic invasion of spain at the start of that century that reverberated in dozens of conflicts in the peninsula

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franco only used Primo de Rivera as a martyr but didnt really agree with falangism, he was just a traditionalist, and francoism was a pretty traditional dictatorship as opposed to fascism and nazism wich were revolutionary at the time

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Everything would unironically be better than with Franco.

french revolution and its consequences were a dissaster for human race

Didn't he also let a bunch of Arabs rape Spaniards?

Half of the old people are closeted francoists and the other half hates him with burning passion
Nobody who didn't live under him actually cares about him

No, the Army of Africa were all Spaniards stationed in Morocco. But they did rape a fuck ton of Basque women tho

Mainstream spanish traditionalism seen from the lenses of a militaryman. Which no, it's not a specific ideology. That's why the regime was relatively flexible. But he did have "values" in a sense.

Evidence?
After peace was done Basque country wasn't militarially occupied

Do it again, General!

FUGG :-DDD

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old fags yes, they say Spain was extremely safe during his regime compared with nowadays, young people hate him though

The fame of the Civil Guard in Spain comes from its regime, it is a military police that is here in Spain.

>you could get robbed at knifepoint in madrid if you had a nice coat
Just for your information: it is NOT normal.

He had plenty of regulares who were literal arabs and berbers and yes he did send them in advance for terror purposes

>it is NOT normal
sort of like namefagging?

a lot of his soldiers were moors and the regiments still exist today but i dont know if they raped anyone

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>Wasn't militarily occupied
Nope, they uhh kind just raped and pillaged as they went. They just really really didn't like the Basques for some reason. It was from a book I was reading I can't remember where it was in it though.

Probably one of the worst parts of the White Terror. (Not that the little bastards didn't have it coming to some extent)

>Plenty
If they existed they were definitely a minority desu.

modern spaniards think that people actually got a choice on fighting for the nationalists or the republic, when 99% of those soldiers were forced conscripts who would rather be at home
one example of this is that some associations like to dig up mass graves from the civil war, but in one case they found it it was a grave of nationalists and they just left the corpses next to the road to rot

why leftoids like desacrating corpses?

Evidence for this?
A book is not evidence unless it proves it's statement.

Kek

Because right-wingers aren’t human

>I mean we didn't even include you guys in the Marshall Plan because, despite receiving no economic aid from the Axis after your civil war ended, and your neutrality in the war plus caring for etc refugees, we deemed you "too pro Axis".
Yes, for a reason. German and Italian fascists directly helped Franco win the Civil war, and it was the only remaining fascist dictatorship in Europe after May 1945. Even Portugal's Estado Novo had renounced fascism as a political system. Some of the first UN resolutions were about condemning the fascist regime in Spain, which survived because the West found a furiously anti-communist Spain useful.
>Spanish miracle
Only happened because there was no way to go but up and after 20 years of fascist mismanagement. Franco's stooges stopped doing everything and handed the economy over to smart guys, people who had university careers: Manuel Fraga, Mariano Navarro, Alberto Ullastres and so on. Those were called the "Opus Dei technocracy". Ullastres and Navarro modernised the economy to make European integration easier, Fraga understood the potential of tourism before anyone else. Franco and his henchmen were incompetent goons who unfortunately spent decades without realising it.

I know, can't be asked to cite things with proper mla right now

Tell me of a state without incompetent goons getting wealthy on the teet of others?
It's unfair to criticize their corruption but ignore the corruption of every other state.

Is the tattoo on the fat guys belly supposed to be New Spain, or is he larping as some Carlists? Why would Spaniards be so proud of the empire if their ancestors stayed in Spain? If anything the creaturas, even if they're mutts, actually have ancestors who crossed the sea and created the empire.

>Opus Dei
the jews of Spain, even nowdays they are in the administration of many companies here in Spain.

>No, the Army of Africa were all Spaniards stationed in Morocco. But they did rape a fuck ton of Basque women tho
The basque country was barely repressed by Franco
The rapes happened in rural andalucia, castille and extremadura.