Why are they not their own country? They should be

Does Mexico or other Latin countries have pockets of different Iberian populations littered around? I'm aware that the Basque were bureaucrats and key figures.

Celtiberians. The same stuff as you, except Cantabria region.

We have ancestry and culture related to the celts

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those light eyes map you see around are very old. i wouldn't trust them
combians and chileans have distinct basques descended populations iirc
not latin american but the us curiously also has basques in idaho for some reason

>Why are they not their own country? They should be.
They already control Spain and several latin american countries
Galicians are iberian jews

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Well my family is most galician and people are very tall, very pale and have green or blue eyes
One family is not representative but still not quite what you expect from Spaniards

We are pretty much like the rest of spain desu, I don't think there's that much of a difference. Most people have brown eyes and normal height except old people who are mostly short

The real question is to why Portugal exists and hasn't decided to be annexed by Spain.

Why shouldn't this be its own country?

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There u go, Galicia is a country again

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>Well my family is most galician and people are very tall, very pale and have green or blue eyes

most galicians aren't like that

t. galician

no it shouldnt

Is there a reason Portugal hasn't decided to petition to be annexed by Spain?

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they are brainwashed

But who brainwashed them and why?
What do they gain?

the british

This

All of Iberia should be a fucking single country

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Portugual refused to be absorbed by spain when iberian royalty was consolidating the country. They had wars and shit and briefly were united before they went to war again to split. Galicia and Portugal were originally the same political entity, but that's going back over 1000 years

How does Portugal being independant from Spain benefit it if it only has lower rights and quality of life in every way in a much smaller community?

this is actually how Spain should look like

because fuck Castile

This but under a better flag, there wouldn't be much of a difference anyway

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>Is there a reason Portugal hasn't decided to petition to be annexed by Spain?
Mostly the nationalism kool-aid, although odds are things would worsen for both sides if annexation happened - Spain would have one or two more poor provinces to take care of, and the Portuguese in general would lose a lot of autonomy, plus they would be threatened Castilianization just like the others. So: right decision (remain independent), wrong reasons (nationalism).
Give Portugal some time and their economy will get better. Messing with their borders won't help.

But why do some Portuguese don't desire to be part of spain?
Help explain

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>Give Portugal some time and their economy will get better. Messing with their borders won't help.
Portugal has consistently been more impovriched than Spain for centuries going back mideval times and even before, Portugal has no reason to be independant logically.

>Spain and Portugal both Latin speakers of Roman cultural heritage
Hm..
Where does this Portuguese "nationalism" stem from?

My village was full of blonde people for some reason, lots of people with greyish eyes around santiago too.
Not claiming we are aryans but light eyes are not uncommon (i have them), as is not uncommon seeing people with rosacea

Here is a Portuguese with Iberian derrived reason and logic

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>consistently
That's incorrect. Source: researchgate.net/figure/GDP-per-Capita-in-Selected-European-Economies-1300-1800-three-year-average-Spain_fig1_283550342

>Where does this Portuguese "nationalism" stem from?
Nationalism is often a result of a political structure* trying to impose itself, at the expense of other political structures and sometimes the very population it's supposed to serve. In Portugal's case it backtracks all the way into 868, although true nationalism would only pop out as late as the F̶r̶o̶g̶ ̶R̶e̶v̶o̶l̶t̶ French Revolution.
*loosely a "government". I don't know the right word to use in English here.

>Spain and Portugal both Latin speakers of Roman cultural heritage
"S-sed Roma m-mea" does play a role in national identities but it's smaller than you think. It makes sense if you consider the tribal raids ruining Rome happened more than a millennium and half ago, it's really old stuff.
Thinking on it another way: did UK side with Germany in WW2, as "Germanic countries"?

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>where does portuguese nationalism stem from
Embarassing question

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Of course the mutt only cares about gee dee pee

Mm I'm seeing what reason do people who look like Spaniards have to not be annexed to Spain.

In my eyes Portuguese nationalism is equivalent to say Algarvian nationalism.fir the glory and power of the Algarvian people, patriotic sentiment that has little reason to be truly.
A psuedo nationalism created of false nations.

>Algarvian nationalism

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What reason does algarve have to be part of Portugal and not become an independant country hoping to one day bring glory to the Algarvian people and remaining their distinct identity from Portuguese?

An Algarvian nationalist party seeks the indepedence of the Algarvian people and for an Algarvian nation to bring glory and power to the Algarvian nation, what would you say about that?

Soyboys would support globalism, not fragmentation.

Tell me about algarve language,culture and people

Expected from a youtube comment, but this guy cannot organize his thoughts right. Loose translation for the sake of the others:
>A lot of Portuguese exaggerate in their attempt to create a concept like pure "Lusitanism". They exaggerate in a difference that isn't that big of a deal, we sprouted from the same seed, from the Celtic, Roman, Germanic, Moor, Jewish and Gypsy admixture. They also forget Spain itself is extremely diverse (Basques, Catalans, Galicians, Andaluzians). For me this way of thinking makes complete sense, however it doesn't mean it's a viable option currently. And don't forget there was once an Iberian Union already...

Reorganizing what he said, it boils down to the following:
>differences between Portugal and Spain aren't that big of a deal
>Spain itself is extremely diverse [implicit: "thus it could accommodate the Portuguese"]
>It would still be a bad idea to merge the countries given the current situation [he doesn't say why]
>There was an Iberian Union once [implicit: "and the fact it was dissolved should tell you why it's a bad idea"]
So he's acknowledging similarities but opposing any sort of current unification. His position is sensible IMO.

>In my eyes Portuguese nationalism is equivalent to say Algarvian nationalism.fir the glory and power of the Algarvian people, patriotic sentiment that has little reason to be truly.
>A psuedo nationalism created of false nations.
Yes but here's the catch: every single instance of nationalism is exactly like this. Nationalism is always forged, and it'll always leave you with a metallic taste in the mouth.
The reason you don't see Algarvian nationalism is solely due to balance of powers.

>Tell me about algarve language,culture and people
Tell me about the American language and people?
Algarve prior to radio and t.v had a distinct dialect and it's still culturally different to northern Portugal.

They don't have a unique language or history, you could argue they have a different-ish culture cuz there are many different traditions between regions in Portugal.
And more importantly, the people there have no desire to be independent.

a proud and ancient peoples :')

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>They don't have a unique language
Portuguese and Spanish are not unique languages, they are dialects that are mostly mutually intelligible.

>Tell me about the American language and people?
Official langauge in the USA is english
USA is a multicultural federalized country
They speak portuguese

wtf are you on about, you're embarassing yourself

Countries that speak the same language can't be distinct nation and countries?

How come Latin Americans are indepedent extreme patriots of their countries and they have nothing that isn't Spanish?

Yes but they don't want to be part of another country

>Why are they not their own country? They should be.

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>Yes but they don't want to be part of another country
Does Portugal allow regions to be able to vote for independence?
If algarvians found a desire to be different from rest of Portugal and have their own nation, what would you say?

>Lusitanians should join the Latinized Tartessian-Iberian-Celtiberian megahybrid

Why are namefags so mentally ill?

I don't really care about portugal being part of Spain, nor want them to have citizenship rights or travel rights through Spain , but I'm just seeing as to the reasons Portuguese have to not desire to be annexed by Spain, what is the gain?

>They don't have a unique language
"A language is a dialect with an army and navy". The very concept of language is political in nature, so this argument can backfire two ways:
* Denying Portuguese is a language, instead of a Spanish dialect. (Or a Vulgar Latin dialect depending on goals)
* Labelling what's spoken in the Algarve and Alentejo as something else than Portuguese, by highlighting grammatical, phonological, and lexical differences. (I can expand this further if you want.)

>history
Carthaginian heritage. Westernmost bastion of Granadan resistance. Aben Mafom seeking Castilian protection against Portuguese expansion.