Is your cunt opting for the "herd immunity" strategy? What do you think of it?

Is your cunt opting for the "herd immunity" strategy? What do you think of it?

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Sounds like a big meme and a way for full healthcare collapse
I gave it a couple of weeks before people dying and panic

Nope, only you and US I think.

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The US is opting for the "who the fuck knows" approach.

I don’t think he is advocating mass infections to acquire herd immunity. I think he’s stating that up 60% of britons will need to get infected before herd immunity becomes beneficial. Nobody would be stupid enough to suggest that people purposely infect the population at large to speed up the natural process of herd immunity.

>herd immunity
so Welsh men are already safe?

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Also, sleeveless scrubs instead of a isolation gown while swabbing for covid19? What the fuck dudes. Who is in charge over there?

I thought that they let you in because they were coordinating all this with you

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The alternative is shutting people away in their homes until further notice

It's literally PR spin on "we already completely lost control on this virus, and people are going to start dying en masse."

Honestly I can't see any reason why people think it's better to try to quarantine everyone when it's not a virus with a high death rate. You'll just cripple your economy and not actually make anything better.

Nah Trump's got golf courses here.

>it's not a virus with a high death rate.
China numbers say that it is 10 times dealier than flu, Italians that it is arround 20-30 times

You spread the number of people that need a respirator and special assistance over a longer timeframe so hospitals can cope
If you don't you'll have a peak of infections, not enough beds and respirators and you'll have to start a triage (so basically only focusing on the people with the best recovery chances and letting the others die)

All the deaths here have been pensioners with existing conditions.

Anyhow the real problem is not that it is dealier, the problem is that it spread fast as fuck so the healthcare system collapse, that's why we are doing quarantine

>when it's not a virus with a high death rate

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Yeah dude, fuck 0.6% to 5% of the population. They should just die so we can keep making money. That is only about 400k to 3.3million people dying.

The death rate is not reliable, there are so many people with it that are never tested or don't show syntoms.

Death rate can go over 10% if hospitals run out of ICU beds.

Honestly I live in NYC and my sister and some of her friends in January had whats now known to be the corona symptoms, they thought it was the flu but tested negative for the influenza strains they test for. It's probably been here a while and a bunch already are immune. In other areas we have containment zones and shut down a lot.

I'm more concerned about the downfall of communication systems

This. The vast majority of people don't even know they have it, the death rate is only based on confirmed, tested cases.

Yes, if the hospitals get swamped with patients we will have to triage them and some people with treatable non-infectious Injuries will be left to die.

As a 22-year old man in moderate health (not obese, but not in shape), should I be concerned with contracting the virus? Even with hospitals overwhelmed or filled, should I worry? I mean I’m not old so I doubt I’d die.

>Even with hospitals overwhelmed or filled, should I worry?

If you have money - no. If you don't - yes.

God bless the USA

You could spread it to other people unknowingly
Also it may cause permanent pulmonary damage even if you survive

You should not be concerned about acquiring covid19 as you are not in the risk group. That said, you should be cognizant of not spreading the disease to other people who are in the risk category. If the hospitals become swamped and they are forced to triage, there is no guarantee that your non life threatening injury could be treated and you could be left permanently injured depending on the medical issue.

do you think the situation in Italy will improve soon?

>should I be concerned with contracting the virus?
Only if you live in flats or things like that, take care in the markets and public places, you are like we were 5 days ago or Italy 10 now

I think most cases are mild. In some instances you may need to undergo hospitalization. Furthermore, in some istances hospitalized people need admission to the ICU, but they rarely die. It isn't a pleasant experience though. So you would probably not die.

You have a 0.2% chance of not being ok. So no need to worry.

It will get worse before it gets better as the people infected before the quarantine start getting ill (especially in southern Italy, which has much worse medical structures compared to the north)
But if we are able to maintain the quarantine the situation will start to improve in a month or so

I mean young people btw. People older than 65 drop dead like flies

I obviously planned on self-quarantining in case I got it, I meant more from a purely medical standpoint.

How worried should I be about infection if I'm 19 years old (not overweight, more like underweight, no other health issues)? That is, without medical infrastructure available, as there are not enough icu here.
Does it really hit different races differently?

I'm 20 years old. A woman living in the same apartment as one of my uni classmates tested positive for Corona. Should I be concerned?

You could be spreading it with no symptoms
Even if you survive it's best to avoid it since it could damage your lungs permanently or make way for other kinds of diseases

You are unlikely to acquire any complications from covid19 as you are not in a significant risk group. But we do not understand the long term effects of covid19. So while we can say people have recovered from it with little to no symptoms, we cannot say with certainty that it has no long term effects.

Sounds like that guy in elementary school who always claimed he was great at video games but lost every time and then said he didn't even care so he didn't actually try. Only in this case it's national leadership instead of video games.

Yes. You may spread it to others of you have it.

So should I get tested?

I hope you'll get better as soon as possible. It's hard to imagine how much your economy will be affected though.

Btw, is it true smokers are much more likely to end up in a serious condition/die? Italians are known for smoking a lot.

If you have no symptoms but suspect you may have the infection. You should self isolate first. If you develop symptoms you should than be tested if testing in your country is not readily accessible.

>everyone itt caring about lung damages
So what? I already smoke.

>I hope you'll get better as soon as possible. It's hard to imagine how much your economy will be affected though.
The ECB will inject more liquidity into the market, hope it works. Hopefully Lagarde will be as good as Draghi in this situation

>Btw, is it true smokers are much more likely to end up in a serious condition/die? Italians are known for smoking a lot.
No idea frankly

>The ECB will inject more liquidity into the market, hope it works.

The difference is that this crisis is not a financial one, it's just that your tourist sector is seriously threatened and you won't attract tourists for a long time even if you pump a lot of money into the sector.

Some overcrowded cities like Venice may feel relieved, though.

>Hopefully Lagarde will be as good as Draghi in this situation
Considering what happened yesterday, I really doubt so. She basically told us (and every other country) "It's not the ECB's business, get fucked"

I don't know how it works in your country. Here you self isolate and then call your doctor or a designated number and a unit is sent to your home for testing.
You should absolutely self-isolate for a period of two weeks. If you develop symptoms you'll probably get tested. That is, unless your country provides testing for potentially asymptomatic people. In that case get tested.

I think we are fucked. I can already imagine these clips from the news being replayed with a voiceover in some future documentary, explaining where it all went wrong.

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Yes, it's just we don't publicize it.

>THE ECONOMY GUIZE THINK ABOUT THE ECONOMY

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Tourism is a bit of a meme, it's a tiny % of our economy. I'm more worried about our industry
>She basically told us (and every other country) "It's not the ECB's business, get fucked"
To be fair, she's right (Draghi really bent the limits of what the ECB was allowed to do), and she backtracked a bit today
But it really shows that the ECB needs to be reformed, and become a true "federal reserve" like the Fed. We should introduce common eurobonds and centralise certain parts of the budget, maybe starting in sectors like healthcare and long-term investments

You'll be fine but you have the chance of spreading it to older people.

I'm absolutely not worried about my health if I get the virus but I don't want to spread it to my parents who are 60+ years old.

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Its mostly to keep the death roll at 2-3%.
If the entire population gets sick at the same time, the death roll will quickly rise by 10-20%, because no emergency treatment is lethal. Which gets to what user(s) said: and

>it's a tiny % of our economy.

> In 2019, the contribution of travel and tourism to the Italian gross domestic product amounted to 237.8 billion euros. The industry, which is one of the most important ones for the country’s economy, constituted about 13.3 percent of the Italian GDP in the year considered and is predicted to reach 14.3 percent in 2029.

Well, still quite a significant number. I think Italy's GDP may drop by 10-15% this year. But it's not going to be much better in the rest of Europe desu.

13% may seem big but the average contribution of tourism to GDP in Europe is 10%, so we are not that big of an outlier. I think once the situation will have calmed down people will come visiting again, all our cities and monuments are still there after all

Based playing with lives

It might work though

>gatherings over 500 b& in scotland
>but the rangers game is before the ban comes into effect
what's even the point

Yes. Even Merkel said that 60-70% of Germans will get infected.
They pretty much gave up on stopping it at this point but just try to slow it down enough that the medical systems are not over stressed.