Your favorite DC or Marvel character has been trapped in the Black Lodge. How do they fare?

Since you want to shitpost so badly, allow me to indulge:

Dial 8 and seethe.

Nah

Oh boy, the Twin Peaks wank thread is back! And at the same time as the Kirby wank thread too! Goodie!

i never bother with anything that had to do with lynch other than eraserhead
quick explanation pls?

It would probably be like the Otherkind fiasco where her magic didn't work right, or outright had disastrous results when she tried to cast.

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>Everything I don't like is wank!
Not how anything works, bud. If you want to bitch because capeshit isn't getting its dick sucked in these threads, make a Death Battle thread instead. Lord knows how you love "humbling" people.

I'll just repost that stuff from the last time we had this thread.

Question, what’s Cardinality?
Cardinality is the size of a number set. Slept zero is the cardinality of all natural numbers, and is the lowest possible cardinality of any infinite set. Whilst there is no technical limit to the aleph number under Cantor's Theorem, going up by one is a massive truly exponential increase, the type of which the vast, vast majority of fiction flat out does not achieve, even if you break out shit like multi, mega or omniverses.

To sorta illustrate my point, the concept of Infinity isn't really that big until we reach inaccessible cardinals. Suppose a universe to be of the smallest possible infinite size, thusly being either ω or Aleph_0, which are pretty much the same size no matter how we slice it. Then consider a multiverse. An entire multiverse could be a neat cluster of infinitely many universes, in such a manner as we could list them ("So this is the 1st, the 2nd, 3rd, etc"). In this scenario, we'd say that the multiverse is ω copies of a universe, which we can then take to be of size ω, and so we would have ω copies of something with a complexity equal ω, giving us ω*ω=ω^2. We can use this with basic shit like say, ordinals, but the resultant multiverse is still sized at Aleph_0. ω*ω can be interpreted as something with infinite tables and layers and columns, but since you start in X corner, and then go back and forth diagonally, you can label each square of each table and not need more than the natural numbers, making it still Aleph_0, countable.

>(cont because long).

>cont

>The table would function kinda like such:
>0, 1, 4, 7, 11,
>2, 3, 6, 12,
>5, 8, 13,
>9, 14
>15...

>....
>Continuing as such without a truly finite limit. >Whereas an ordinal interpretation would look like such or something similar:

>0,1,2,3,4...
>ω,ω+1,ω+2,ω+3...
>ω*2,ω*2+1,ω*2+2,ω*2+3...
>ω*3,ω*3+1,ω*3_2,...

>Again going on without finite limitation.

>The upper table indicates that it's Aleph_0, the lower one means it has an ordered complexity equated to ω^2. If a megaverse is the smallest thing that is infinitely many neatly (for a certain interpretation of the term) arranged multiverses, then it's then it's ω copies of ω^2, or ω^2*ω = ω^3. If an omniverse is infinitwly many neatly arranged multiverses, then its thusly ω of ω^3 or ω^4. And so on for anything else.

>...Unless we go by the other interpretation of this, where a multiverse is the largest thing with a strictly larger total *size* than a universe. The smallest such multiverse would then be one that contains *every possible iteration of the Aleph_0 universe*. We can incorporate other definitions that don't include EVERY possible such iteration of that universe, but they're the same size, so it's pointless. We can almost equate this to power set operation, but not truly. This puts a multiverse at aleph_1. If a megaverse is aleph_2, then it must be (or at least, contain/retain the sane size as) *every possible Aleph_1 multiverse*. That is, if even a single particle in the back end of nowhere is in a slightly different position at a particular point in time, in one particular universe contained in one particular multiverse, then the whole thing is an entire different multiverse. Akeph_2 is the result of having EVERY possible multiverse.

>An omniverse, to continue in this pattern, would be every possible megaverse, to reach Aleph_3. Anything beyond an omniverse, containing every possible omniverse, is Aleph_4.

>cont

>Daredevil
He fucks Laura Palmer.

>cont
>Aleph_4 is not a big infinity in the slightest. Its bigger than we could ever reasonably need for the majority of math, but when it comes to differently sized infinities, it's like a mote of dust.

>And since we've established what cardinality is, and why it matters, it's time to get into how it relates to Twin Peaks and the strength of the Black Lodge, which I will continue in a separate post.

Almost as bad as FATE jargon. Throw FATE magician in there and let her poke her way out with the rule breaking knife, gg.

>Since its getting quite late on my end, I'll cap this off by looping it back around to Cardinality and it's importance to the Lodges in terms of trying to denote 'strength'.

>Basically, not only is the Unified Field of Consciousness something Lynch subscribes to, but he also subscribes directly to the association of it with the Universe of Sets as defined in Set Theory, as John Hagelin did. On top of being one of the primary founders for an entire foundation of it.

>Basically, they (Hagelin & Lynch) associates each of the deeper levels of consciousness that are traversed through transcendental meditation with the infinite of set theory, and argues that these subtler levels of mind are reflected upon the physical world in the sense that we need deeper levels of mathematical abstractions and "strengths" in order to properly codify our world.

>Lynch at one point directly explains that the Unified Field is a boundless expanse of nothingness from which everything in our Universe is sprung from, be it on a Mental or Material level. In the material side of things, he describes that as one delves into increasingly deeper and smaller chains of matter, physical reality can be perceived as slowly disappearing and being reduced into more minute things, until they disappear into the purest unmanifest. But factor in the fact that he very much associates both the Unified Field and the Universe of Sets together as functionally one and the same, and that the Mauve Zone draws directly from both as the basis of all things (supported in Secret History by the Lodges outright being described as the embodiments of the deepest levels of the uncosncious), and things become clear.

>The Unified Field/Universe of Sets is outright described as being something "Beyond the largest possible infinity that can be conceived by the human intellect lies the Universe of Sets, an infinity which transcends all mathematically definable infinities, and includes them all."

>cont
>This is referring to cardinals by the by, much like what we started this off with. But unlike those, these are more than a fair bit larger. Recall how we dealt with even something beyond omniverses simply being Aleph_4 In scale?

>This is entirely beyond that. More to the point, it's beyond the things that are beyond that. The Universe of Sets, that the Mauve Zone in Twin Peaks is very clearly based on, is beyond even the highest points of the inaccessible cardinals and includes them all into itself. And Lycnh very much used this as his general outline when going into the Mauve Zone/Sea as we've established. And the Lodges are either direct embodiments of this deepest point beyond and transcending all else, or they're implied to be beyond even it in some way (as is quite likely the case with Judy)

>TLDR: Twin Peaks is an absolute clusterfuck of stuff from all over that really doesn't work in versus debates because there's so much to go into, and even just saying "it transcends inaccessible and inordinate cardinals" really doesnt put it into perspective how mindboggingly incomprehnsibly massive both the Mauve Zone and the Lodges are. They don't work in powerlevel debates, flat out.

Not re-posting all of it, but this gets the gist of it.

If you're going to shitpost at me, at least do it with something I give a damn about. As far as I know, FATE is an RPG system.

>If you're going to shitpost at me, at least do it with something I give a damn about
Took the words right outta my mouth

>not Sarah Palmer
A waste.

I don't think Sarah's in the Black Lodge.

The Palmer House is connected to it, at the very least.

I guess he could fuck the Jumping Man in lieu of Sarah. Or he could find and fuck Naido.

Why would he fuck the Jumping Man when Laura is there?

Laura seems to vary on whether or not she's in the Red Room at any one point, so it depends on the frame of existence he's in there for. His chances of scoring also depend on whether it's a doppelganger or not. One is a good time. The other is backwards screaming and possible evisceration.

Also, the Jumping Man has excellent dicksucking lips just judging by FWWM

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Yeah your fan theory wank shit doesn't mean anything. Flash killed Death at a conceptual level by outrunning it, Dr. Fate was once trapped in a state where nothing and everything co-existed while it also ceased to exist all at the same time and still defeated it, Superman's highest powerlevel is literally just "I win". Read more comics, whatever bullshit you can think of superheroes still out-bullshit it.

None of that is even remotely comparable to what was outlined there. I feel like you literally just skimmed that or failed to comprehend it in the slightest beyond "MUH DC WINS."

Legion from New Mutants. You tell me what you're theory would be if you had to guess how Warlock handles David Lynch's idea of Id or whatever .

>DC or Marvel

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