Why, despite full of hot guys, did western comics fail to get a sizable female fanbase? Shonen manga/anime has close to 45% female fans. MCU movies has 40% women watching it.
Why did comics fail to capture the female eye?
Why, despite full of hot guys, did western comics fail to get a sizable female fanbase? Shonen manga/anime has close to 45% female fans. MCU movies has 40% women watching it.
Why did comics fail to capture the female eye?
I love men.
because you, yes you specifically and i cannot stress this enough... are homosexual
As a bisexual most depictions of men in comics arent the hot. Not like how women are frequently hot. Then again I dont find anime guys that attractive either.
Superhero comics just don't care about presenting men as eyecandy for people who care about that sort of thing
Wolverine was a short, hairy brick shithouse for about 30 years, then the live action adaptation comes along and all of a sudden he's a six foot tall soap opera actor handsome. Coincidence? Non.
Maybe western women just don't like comics
This also applies to video games..... unless it's very casual
that being said, still not a reason to be jackasses to women who are interested in them
Probably because they are dressed as clowns
There are more cheesecake artists than beefcake artists.
Some can do both, but some can't. Like, J Scott Campbell makes good looking women but his dudes are nothing to write home about.
This desu, women in Japan loved comics so much they made a whole industry of shit catered to them instead of demanding the men made it for them
Because females in Japan like manga and anime. Outside of that it's less acceptable by mainstream. Nerd culture has gotten more popular but it's really just casuals just thinking they're nerds because they own all the MCU movies. Kind of like how some people think they're sports fanatics because they watch most of the games of their home team.
The art. Real life men like Chris Evans and Sebastian Stan are attractive and handsome, so it's easy to imagine why people like imagining them together. Manga/anime usually have an appealing artstyle. You have to have a stick-up-your-butt if you don't find a single character in BNHA attractive, even if you don't care for the story itself. But comic books? Let's just say the artists aren't drawing the characters with intent to be attractive. Pic related is just a random image I pulled from Google. By all right, you can say "Well, it's more realistic and gritty that way," but realism and grittiness isn't arousing to most. The "traditional comic book artstyle" is not sexy, and that's all there is to it.
>that being said, still not a reason to be jackasses to women who are interested in them
It's fine when they're not obnoxious about it. But it happens commonly because:
1. It's proven to get them attention, which many women have an unhealthy craving for.
2. They love shoving their personalities in your face, especially "quirky" ones. This is thanks to insecurity, desperation to seem original etc.
Ofc I'm generalizing, but it's prominent enough to complain about.
As a ladyanon, I liked superhero comics as a teenager, but the stories got really stale really fast, and there wasn't much to them. It was just a bunch of fights, or weirdos standing around and trading bad dialog about situations I didn't care about. The relationship dynamics were threadbare and I couldn't relate to these all super powered people. Everyone dressed like a moron. The guys were square-jawed and too muscled and violent. Outside of a few characters like Doctor Strange and a few mold-breaking oneshots like 1602, I just didn't care about them.
But Marvel and DC were all they sold in the mall in the nineties. Once I was older and had a car, I visited my LCS and found the other shit - Strangers in Paradise, Bone, Sandman, Preacher, The Maxx were all favorites - and I've loved comics ever since. I read mostly indie stuff, webcomics, and manga now.
Superhero comics are ass ugly. The ladies watching superhero movies are in it for the hot actors, not the story or premise, just like the normie males who watch them are only watching for the special effects and fights. The superhero film genre is a delivery vessel for lizard brain pleasures.
Force pandering, doesn't really work.
Most male comic book characters aren't drawn to be appealing to women. Nightwing, Batman, Cap get it sometimes, but honestly people underestimate how much women are visual creatures as well.
Have you ever looked into the manga that are predominately read by women? Do that, and then compare them to most capeshit, and you will answer your question.
Tons of people substitute having a personality with having a shallow interest in shallow but common things. be it comics, vidya, literature.
Women are not free of this, neither are men.
But sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, other times you will find an individual puffing away not because they truly enjoy the taste, but because they like the look it believes it imparts upon them.
Yes I'm ranting about "fake" geeks but its true, men and women can like things for shallow reasons and you cannot ignore that humans as social creatures all do this kind of shit to a degree.
Manga and anime make a point of having attractive characters with internal consistency, same is roughly true of film franchises and TV shows. Comics are dominated by capeshit that involves characters being dragged out through countless runs and passed around from sucky artist to sucky artist, with very little to latch onto other than whatever superficial gimmick the current writer's run is attempting. If you husbando a comic character you will get more pandering pleasure from fanart than the source material.
But western women like comics, they just usually like stuff like manga rather than capeshit
Not really, vidya girls are very notable minority
Access could be a problem. Earned or not, comic and game stores have kind of a reputation for being hostile to women.
Women don't sit around wondering why dudes aren't into their pasttimes. Your mom doesn't wanna read your punchy-man comics, bro, just deal with it.
That's fine, but I'm not demanding a new brand of perfume just for me. The idea that comics should shift to advocate a minute audience is silly but understandable, the idea that entertainment is the only industry being pushed to this is... interesting actually. I'm going to have to think about that.
The thing is, plenty of manga is appealing to men and women. It can be done.
>The "traditional comic book artstyle" is not sexy, and that's all there is to it.
This
Outside of a vanishingly tiny minority who mostly enjoy capeshit but would like them to stop being so juvenile and retarded, women aren't demanding major change to capeshit. Women read other types of comics and have since comics began.
It's comic executives that are trying to market to women by pandering to them - badly - because dudes aren't buying enough capeshit comics to keep the medium viable. Blame the comic executives or blame the dudes who got sick of comics and aren't buying them anymore. Most women really don't give a fuck and are reading other things.
>full of hot guys
lol no
The vast, vast majority of the time male characters are not drawn particularly attractively. Merely having muscles isn't going to do it.
It's not even just that they're unattractive, but their personalities are shit. I honestly don't get why anyone reads superhero comics, male or female. If OP is projecting, maybe dudes only read them to fap to the cheesecake?
If you want to capture the female eye, let female eyes do the art. You won't like the results though.
Yeah, that's a big problem too. I just picked on that one point because it's such nonsense. The characters and storylines not being engaging to new readers is of course going to be a factor in not attracting people who aren't already invested. Really, unless someone is predisposed to liking exactly what capeshit is, with all its flaws, there's no reason to read it. They can get more satisfying stories about hot dudes punching things from other sources for less money.
Alternatively: let gay men do the art.
Ex. Travis Moore.