Ditching the Avengers Tower was a mistake. This shit was lame and barely even used

Imagine how many thousands of people would have died upon Thanos attack in the third act of Endgame if the Avengers were still headquartered in the middle of goddamn New York.

The Avengers only got together once every few years. There wasn't enough time spent together as a team for an HQ to matter.

>Imagine how much better the housing market would be if Arab and Californian oligarchs didn't grab everything up for their fucking birds or whatever the hell
Honestly I'd risk the possible death if my rent went down to three digits.

Avengers Mansion or bust tbqh

>As opposed to literally just a house in California
Which was immediately attacked once Tony announced where he lived.

>barely even used
>post six movies that it's used in
>central location of big fight in Endgame
>neatly avoids Man of Murder problems with needless civilian casualties

>Lairs aren't as important I guess.
No, they're still important. It's where you keep all your stuff, affect repairs on vehicles(which have also been phased out in favor of everyone being able to fly), and patch up injuries.

Most of that stuff is done in HQ's and team bases. A lair and an HQ are two very different thing.

The Avengers HQ seemed like it was only done so they didn't have to have NYC scenes so often. I mean, in AoU, it looked like the Avengers HQ was going to be a place packed with people willing to help out the Avengers, and then after that film, it was just empty. I giant empty warehouse.

My only explanation I think they did this was because they wanted to blow up the base, but they didn't want to level half of NYC doing it. Which makes its destruction feel hallow. Nobody cared that it blew up, where as Avengers Tower being destroyed might have gotten people to feel stuff.

Keeping your team's headquarters in an incredibly densely populated area is a fantastic way to increase civilian casualties and generate a lot of hatred

It reminds me of how the Dark Knight, one of the most famous Batman movies, doesn't even have the batcave in it, and yet you didn't really feel like it's missing. It just didn't seem to matter.

That's because it had the headache inducing underground glowy garage from all those music videos as a replacement.

The Autobots hang out in a living city.

As a tangent, I really like how the recent-ish portrayal of Titans has them as eldritch nightmare creatures that only certain specially trained people can talk to. Just makes it more interesting.

>A lair and an HQ are two very different thing.
Are they? Cause that just sounds like semantics.

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We never did get Avengers Mansion

That was one of those ideas I wished they had for the MCU.

I'm almost sure it'll be their house in Wandavision.

Remember that Wayne Manor burned down during the first movie

The Avengers HQ showed up in more films than Avengers tower.

THIS was the real mistake.

And it kinda makes sense, with all the doomsday weapons and dangerous shit they have accumulated over the years, it should be away from people and not beholden to any one nation

Are you saying supers are above us or something? Looking down on us "lowly mortals"?

Movie makers and comic editors don't care, maybe, just like Marvel doesn't care for secret identities or traditional costumes. They're ashamed of working superheroes.

Exactly. But here's the part that annoys me. Look at Avengers HQ in Age of Ultron
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It looked busy, it looked full of people. Immediately after that, it seemed like you have this massive facility with just the Avengers in it. The place had no personality. You didn't have Falcon's wings hanging on the wall, or even anything hanging on the wall. The whole place felt sterile, and it's just really forgettable for that reason.

I think that will be the Avengers next base. There hasn't been much discussion on where Avengers will be next

Though I wouldn't be shocked if they have a base in Wakanda next film.

I do, but that's what I mean. It was gone, yet the new place was interchangeable with the Batcave that nobody missed the Batcave. Thus enforcing that superhero bases have no personality.

That's my problem with the Avengers, no matter how you look at it they are helping the US goverment and putting a lot of weapons and plans at their soil and by doing so are partially responsible for all the atrocities caused by them.

Wasn't the lack of people in later movies due to the split after Civil War, and all of SHIELD's stuff going online? I forget the timeline.