How would a traditional Superman have reacted to Joker making him kill Lois, his unborn child, and a good sum of Metropolis?
I know they had to make Superman act out of character, otherwise there's no story (plus it's an Elseworlds), but I can't help but wonder how it could've gone down if it was a story from Superman's perspective.
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Giving out his powers after killing Joker & Batman?
>lois is gone
>abuses his powers and turns into hitler
why is superman always such weak minded pussy
Regular Supes wouldn't have gotten to that point because he wouldn't have let that happen... he's too smart for that.
See, the problem with the entire situation is that the Joker would have never gotten even close to doing what he did in Injustice. It's fun as an Elseworlds scenario but that's about it.
He'd do something similar only without being brutal and evil. He'd crack down on villains hardcore and try his best to make sure everything is kept in line and controlled, but he wouldn't cross the line into becoming a villain himself.
He isn't, ever.
Does DC not have the Dbz equivalent of Dragonballs and fix everything? Superman would probably do that
He isn't, that was an alternate version of him that was dumb for the sake of showing what would happen if Superman were weak enough to let himself be turned evil.
Several, the Miracle Machine which Superman used once. OP's pic is an alternate reality version that was dumb for the sake of a dumb but fun story.
I wish Injustice had ended with the Earth-2 Barry running back in time, but because of bullshit only after Lois died, and confronting/comforting Clark by telling him about having to let his mom die
To be fair, DC would be boring if characters remembered all the tech/macguffins available to them. There's no reason for Bruce not to use all the alien (or even advanced human) tech or magical objects at his disposal. There is no reason to not send Joker to the Phantom Zone. There's no way Clark or maybe even Barry or Diana would let Gotham stay as shitty as it is. Paradox free time travel is also possible and Bruce would totally be able to save his parents while still being Batman if he wanted.
They have to make up excuses for Barry to not run back and fix everything despite other heroes and villains being able to time travel without much issue.
You could make excuses, but the reason characters don't use magic or tech that's basically magic to solve all their problems is because it would be boring.
Marvel has enough superheros in New York that it should be impossible to commit a crime.
>How would a traditional Superman have reacted to Joker making him kill Lois, his unborn child, and a good sum of Metropolis?
Reverses the spin of the earth and saves the day.
Traditional Superman doesn't lose. Side Note: Why is Injustice Superman such a bitch? Peter killed Gwen and didn't wig out like a bitch.
Right, and if every Green Goblin was up to some shit and Daredevil, Iron Man, and all of the Avengers had shown up before Peter could even get there, it would be very boring.
Same reason Clark has to be morally okay with staying out of Gotham even if it's not in his nature. Because there would be no Batman.
Or if Superman, Flash, Supergirl, and everyone else with speed showed up to major villain attacks. It would kill tension.
that's not the real supes
I unironically liked New 52 Superman.
He could be a dick, but he slowly grew out if it. He was only a dick because he was about 26 or so.
But he also wasn't able to bullshit out of everything.
Realistically, it would've been Batman who turned evil and set up a fascist security state
Spying on everyone and using others to enforce his will is much more in character
Joker would get out of the Phantom Zone.
There was an entire movie dedicated to this premise.
That was one of the nice parts of the story.
Batman spent the entire time knowing that was absolutely true.
Forgot about the LEGO movie. But also, realisticly, Joker would probably not escape as often as he does.
Or more likely, he'd be either executed or Epstein'd by a guard.
If Batman used the full might of the DC universe, Gotham would have no crime.
>Implying killing the Joker was not the right thing to do
I've always been for the idea that Dick and Clark keep Bruce from going too far
what an absolute cope. thats literally him in the op pic
The point I'm making is it's not in character, but it needed to happy to tell that story.
It's the same reason Bruce hasn't let Zatanna just magic Joker into being a good man (let's not talk about THAT crisis) or call Barry every time he escapes to look all over town for him in a second.
It would be boring.
*needed to happen, yes I have the autocorrect on Chrome because I'm a dumbass who can't spell shit
Honestly they should do more of these stories straight up, Joker escapes a sciencell and comes to earth with a bunch of aliens from a murderclown planet (not an event just a Batman/world's finest story), Joker gets killed by a cop or even executed and comes out of hell with demon abilities to wreck shit in Gotham (Batman/Etrigan), Joker could even join the suicide squad, that'd be pretty fun.
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That's the case of most people.
But they pretend to hate him to blend well in Yas Forums
That's why Batman should not be in the Justice League
Childish "there's always le other way" kindergarten morality is not compatible with stopping edgy tryhard baby-eating evil and I wish dumbass writers would stop trying to feature the two in the same story.
>Never read JLI
>Never read Morrison's JLA
>Never read Kelly's JLA
Yeah, and ?
>To be fair, DC would be boring if characters remembered all the tech/macguffins available to them.
I disagree to a large extent. Sure you can't have hero characters winning by such an absurd scale over regular enemies all the time, that would be boring. But I think that certain top-tier talented writers could indeed make some pretty badass and vastly entertaining stories by incorporating all of that rich history of cool shit in the arsenal of certain characters in the DCU.
>There's no reason for Bruce not to use all the alien (or even advanced human) tech or magical objects at his disposal.
It depends on the opponent I think, I mean Bruce did use that Hellbat suit to hold his own against Darseid that one time. It was a sik ass display of just some of his arsenal too.
>There is no reason to not send Joker to the Phantom Zone.
I think most of us would agree that the Joker is just too popular and iconic to simply disappear into the Phantom Zone forever. He's the Jerry to Batman's Tom.
>There's no way Clark or maybe even Barry or Diana would let Gotham stay as shitty as it is.
I think they've mentioned on some occassions that doing so would be like taking away the freewill of the people as shitty as crime is, it's a sideeffect of having freewill.
Really? Last time I'd chacked I didn't think paradox free time travel could be possible.
Hmmm, I thought Barry or one of the Flashes did travel into the future without negative consequences, isn't that how he beat Death and also how he lived in the future or some such?
>You could make excuses, but the reason characters don't use magic or tech that's basically magic to solve all their problems is because it would be boring.
To an extent I agree with this, yeah that's mostly true... for the average writer. Certain top quality writers could make it work if the stakes are high enough and if it's written well enough though.
That's about 150 issues of comics that let you know exactly why Batman should be in the Justice League
Well Kingdom Come Superman basically went through the same deal. His Lois, parents, and supporting cast all died thanks to the Joker and really no one in Injustice gives a shit about the Metropolis nameless citizens who died or that whore Harley wouldn’t be allowed on the JL. So Kingdom Come Supes didn’t kill the Joker but he did quit and I can totally see mainstream Superman maybe quitting for a while out of depression.
But really the dumbest fucking part of Injustice is Superman not dumping Lois in a Lazarus Pit or forcing Barry to go back in time to undo it. Shit why the fuck doesn’t he just ask the LoSH to loan him a time sphere, those guys love fucking with the timeline? Injustice is just so fucking stupid and doesn’t hold up at all when you think about it.
Not always. Pic related is from a story where Joker has poisoned Lois and Supes either has to kill him or let Lois die. Supes chooses to let her die rather than kill.
Honestly, he still might have killed the Joker.
>thats literally him
There are hundreds of different versions of superman.
>le cope
Ah, a meme-spouting retard.
He only chose to let her die after being convinced by Batman. Can you imagine if it WASN'T a fake-out and Lois really died? It makes the "heroes" look like disgusting cucks preserving the lives of mass murderers over innocent people.
>cope
There's that 12 year old bitch word again, at this point I associate it with stupidity. That Superman is from an alternate dimension, if you don't know shit about comics you should shut the fuck up and lurk more otherwise you make yourself look as stupid as you actually are.
That's why they had to kill off Dick in the beginning of the series.
Retard, this Superman had Lex Luthor as his best friend because Lex never turned to evil. WW was a bitch from day 1 because Steve Trevor was a Nazi spy. It’s an Elseworld written by the edgelords from NRS, why should I care what they think about Supes? Is this guy Batman to you? It’s fine for them to write him as an angry retard who gets punked by the Joker, but no it’s not Earth 0 Superman. It’s not muh Superman.
That's why I didn't like him, he depended to much on the help of others and that's not very Superman like of him. Superman is supposed to be the original superhero who shows up and wins when all else fails.
Assuming Joker actually pulled this off in the main universe. Superman would
>Take a brief leave of absence to the Fortress of Solitude to Grieve
>Batman would beat Joker within an inch of his life, putting him in a full body cast as if Jason had died all over again.
>Superman would be on the ground, every day, helping Metropolis rebuild. He and Lex Luthor would have a truce during this time.
>Superman wouldn't have blamed anyone, especially Bruce, who would feel immense guilt over the affair anyway.
>Superman would probably say something like "I've lost a lot, like the countless others who survived the Metropolis incident. But nothing has changed, regarding who I am or what I do. Tragedy shapes men, for better or for worse. I wouldn't dare think to tarnish Lois's, or any lives lost, memory if I acted in vengeance or hatred. I've been called "The Man of Tomorrow", and I'm going to make sure there will be a better tomorrow, for everyone."
>It makes the "heroes" look like disgusting cucks preserving the lives of mass murderers over innocent people.
Funnily enough when Lois hears that he was willing to let her die rather than kill Joker, she dumps him. I thought that was great. Eh Batman doesn’t convince him, but he does try to console Supes by saying Lois wouldn’t want him to kill the Joker to save her (which just makes what happens later even funnier).
Nah, killing is what the bad guys do.
Lex would probably kill Joker after he breaks out of the hospital and that would be what made Superman go back to being enemies again.
Didn't they beat edgy superman by summoning muh superman?
> Put Joker in a prison guarded by OMAC's, shrink the prison to a microscopic level and throw it into the phantom zone
Problem solved
You must be 12. Evil begets evil, there's no way around that.
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This is my favorite “Superman goes bad take”. It’s not one bad day that breaks him. It’s not because Wally got killed, Supes still kept his morals for a while after. It’s not because Lois or his parents died, they’re both still alive and well. It’s not because he was retarded and got “tricked” or lost his temper or was an idiot. It’s because he lost faith in his ideals, seeing Lex keep fucking getting away with it, and almost nuking the planet. This guy makes the most sense of the Superman goes bad stories I’ve read. Superman sewing everything he’s fought to prevent occur until they’re seconds away from everyone dying and deciding “fuck it, if this is what it means to be a hero I’m done with it”.
Plus he’s got an amazing suit, NRS can’t fucking design for shit. What the fuck is that headpiece Injustice Superman is wearing in I2, looks so fucking retarded.