Did it really deserve it?

At least they make more overt attempts to show respect even if they ignore it

It's probably not that bad but comic book movies tend to get harsher criticism when they're not from Marvel studios.

Still, the fact that it's mediocre hurts me personally even more, because Days of Future Past was just that good and an excellent ending. Even if Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix aren't terrible, I like them less for wanting to go on from there so half-assedly.

Wonder how the MCU will handle the Dark Phoenix saga

Laugh when you remember that Disney paid $70 billion for Fox

If we get to it, hopefully it'll be with a Phoenix Saga first.

The Fox deal was what killed it, it's proved that people don't care anymore if the movie doesn't spit sequels or isn't part of a shared universe, that's why some bad MCU movies have good reviews despite being shit, because they are part of a shared universe.

The movie was bad too, but you know what I'm saying it's true

They won't. They'll do stuff like the Hellfire club and the Brood

Why? Its Fox shareholders that should be pissed, it was made before they were purchased.
The worst thing about this movie is, aside from the opening scene in space, it is terribly fucking boring. Boring plot, boring villains, boring "action", everyone is dourer than Man of Autism, same old Xavier and Magneto shit.

Truly a low effort film.

No MCU even approaches the awfulness of Age of Apocalypse or this. Not even remotely.
You're kidding yourself or trolling if you say otherwise.

They release this shit and then get bought out for $70 billion, a price everyone thought was too high then and now it's considered one of the worst purchases in corporate history.

Thor The Dark World is at LEAST as bad as Apocalypse. And has less likeable characters. But didn't get panned the same way.

>They release this shit and then get bought out for $70 billion, a price everyone thought was too high
They bid less than Comcast, Fox shareholders just thought the synergy with Disney was better.
No one considers it a historically bad purchase but you. Any major corporate purchase in entertainment would look bad in the context of coronavirus pandemic.
Stop making your obsessive hatred of Disney make you look retarded. You are Retarded with Hate. Cut it out.

Yes. Apocalypse was better than it, and apocalypse had a shit ton of problems.

I own both and I have to disagree with you.
There's a lot of good stuff happening in Dark World, but its sabotaged by removing too much backstory and thereby making the villains seem rote. Too much Kat and co. shenanigans too.

But Apocalypse was a bunch of television actors badly playing comic characters in bad costumes with retarded CGI cataclysms in the background.
And yet MORE retarded Xavier/Magneto because Fox could not make a movie without that le epic philosophical conflict.
Apocalypse would flat out be the worst X-Men thing ever, if DP didn't exist. Worse than Origins.

I remember the first 30 min when the Xavier got a call from the president and the X-Men rescued the astronauts. Which is funny, because it is obvious from the director Simon Kinberg that he wanted the audience to hate that stuff. He even has the characters make fun of the “goofy colorful costumes” (like, ugh, how dare the X-Men wear bright costumes! Ugh! UGH! How dare people want that and now boring black leather!!!). And has Mystique make fun of the X-Men being superheroes to the public (How dare the X-Men act like heroes! They shouldn’t be fun like the Avengers! Ugh!)

Then after Jean goes full Pheonix it goes to being the same boring FoX-Men movie as most of the other FoX-Men with the same tired cliches and brooding atmosphere. Even Magneto points out that it is the same shit again and again (I am sure Kinberg thought he was being clever but it felt like he was just admitting how predictable and shallow these movies are).

For all it the FoX-Men try to say that everyone needs to accept change in their universe, their universe and filmmakers in charge seem to hate change.

And not to defend the MCU (they have made movies I disagree with), but the movie had this smug air that it thought it was better than the MCU because it was darker and mature and not just superheroes in bright costumes. Like shit, Kinberg, did you not see the billions made by the MCU? Did you not see the death of Zack Snyder? Why were you and Fox so against the X-Men being fun and bright? Was Deadpool a fluke?

Also, naming the evil government soldiers the M.C.U. and having kidnap the poor Mutants makes the director and Fox look petty.
>Fox: Fuck you, Disney! How dare you make better and more fun movies than ours! How dare you become so successful!

This.

$70 billion was for every IP FOX owns, and the studio, the infrastructure, the contracts with actors and other talent. X-Men were never a billion-dollar franchise in any meaningful sense, even their early movies didn't do that well compared to previous and contemporaneous movies in the same genre.

For recent examples - and even with big studios there are often more misses than genuine breakout hits, so they just kind of make a modest profit after costs - you're looking at things like Ford v Ferrari, the Maze Runner franchise, Bohemian Rhapsody, but also all the things FOX Searchlight (now Searchlight Pictures) put out: Jojo Rabbit, Ready or Not, The Shape of Water. Often FS/SP is putting out Oscar bait too - Skin, The Favourite, Three Billboards, going back even futher you've got Birdman, 12 Years A Slave, Black Swan - and these movies tend to make a lot of money on relatively modest budgets.

So by any reasonable measure FOX wasn't that bad of a buy, but of course you don't buy when it's at peak price - that's why nobody buys brand new cars, they lose 10% of their value the moment you sign to become their first owner and another 5% when you drive them off the lot. Depreciation is real, and if you want to invest wisely you don't buy something when its at its most successful and therefore highest in price. It would be like buying Bitchcoins when the hype machine was in full swing and people were already boasting about how they mined one bitcoin for fun in college and now they were millionaires. That was not the time to start trying to emulate them, you know?

Be wise, friend.

>implying anyone was gonna go see it anyway

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>I remember the first 30 min when the Xavier got a call from the president and the X-Men rescued the astronauts. Which is funny, because it is obvious from the director Simon Kinberg that he wanted the audience to hate that stuff. He even has the characters make fun of the “goofy colorful costumes” (like, ugh, how dare the X-Men wear bright costumes! Ugh! UGH! How dare people want that and now boring black leather!!!). And has Mystique make fun of the X-Men being superheroes to the public (How dare the X-Men act like heroes! They shouldn’t be fun like the Avengers! Ugh!)

You're projecting quite a bit there, lad.

Is it really projecting when the movie has the characters talk about how “Colorful costumes” are stupid and lame and that “being superheroes” that save people (instead of le mankind hates us plot #986568) is stupid and gay?

The movie is Kinberg and Fox being stubborn that the MCU is successful and not learning to fix their team. Even having the evil M.C.U. army come in and kidnap the poor FoX-Men. Then the M.C.U. beinb incompetent and getting killed and the FoX-Men having to save the day because they are totes awesome!

>Is it really projecting when the movie has the characters talk about how “Colorful costumes” are stupid and lame and that “being superheroes” that save people (instead of le mankind hates us plot #986568) is stupid and gay?

Yes, because you're not actually supposed to agree with Mystique about that. She is supposed to be right about Xavier neglecting them to appease the humans, but not to the extent that she's rambling, as Beast later points out.

the Netflix shows had the exact same problem. Remember how much they riducled Iron Fist's lore?

Not to mention one of the larger chunks of Hulu that Disney didn't own.
Idiots here think they paid 70 billion for Marvel characters tho.

It was trash