I have never seen a Ralph Bakshi. Which ones would you say are recommended, and general discussion thread

I have never seen a Ralph Bakshi. Which ones would you say are recommended, and general discussion thread.

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Idk.

Coonskin, Heavy Traffic, and Fritz the Cat are his best works. Hey Good Lookin is also worth a view.
Honestly everything else outside of Cool World is worth watching just to see for the attempt, but outside of the above listed, they have issues and are kinda slogs to watch.
His Lord of the Rings definitely suffers because of some writing choices to try and shove two books together and just, absolute filler shots that are just shit and only exist because he was running out of money but needed to pad out the runtime. Wizards is ok, not great, but the ending is worth it. Fire and Ice isn't the best because it drags on and on, but if you like sword and sorcery or Frank Frazetta, its worth a view.
Generally when he steps outside his comfort zone of reflecting on the 60s and 70s, its trash to mediocre.

Fritz The Cat is my personal favorite but Heavy Traffic is his masterpiece. Everything else is secondary. His work went to shit when he got lazy and started rotoscoping everything.

I saw this a month ago. It's like somebody took those painting you would see in a smoke shop (before they were legal) and made it a movie. Usually I'm okay with a movie poking fun at religion but this was a little too much. The Nazi feels pretentious.
>Fritz the Cat
Probably my favorite. It feels like what Catcher in the Rye wanted to be. But like fight club the end get's too fantasy

>I have never seen a Ralph Bakshi.
I hear there's only one left in the wild.

>gets too fantasy
I mean, you did have things like Weather Underground back then. Its not too much of a stretch that a random drugged-out biker would have connections to some other rando who had the capability to procure some explosives and just chooses to blow up random bullshit.
If youre talking about something else about the ending besides fritz surviving, I dunno, its a cartoon and acts as such.

>Its not too much of a stretch that a random drugged-out biker would have connections to some other rando who had the capability to procure some explosives and just chooses to blow up random bullshit.
That's what I was talking about. And I see your point
>If youre talking about something else about the ending besides fritz surviving, I dunno, its a cartoon and acts as such.
Even though him surviving is a little too much I love the ending with the hospital scene. Throughout the movie Ralph keeps getting in trouble but he's very oblivious to his situation. So just to see a movie where the character goes through all these lesson only to end up going back to his basic impulses of sex got a chuckle out of me

My personal favorite out of the ones I’ve seen was American Pop, but I’ve also heard that it is the one that is the least like the rest of his stuff.

American Pop is probably the only movie in history that would benefit from being made at least 2x longer

Agreed. Its such a fantastic film.

Fire and Ice is... okaaaaay... Kinda shows how they rely on "fanservice" in their stuff, though, and not in a particularly fun way.

What my generation finds funny is it was the closest thing to a He-Man cartoon while they were taking over 2 years to come out with 1 after the toy line.

Cool World is the only film of him i saw. I tried watching American Pop, yet got bored after a while

Is it wrong if i say that Bakshi has never made a good film ? I respect him as an artist, but his characters and storytelling are bad imo. Adult animation has come a long way since then

I think Wizards is actually the only one of his films I've seen all the way through and I'd totally recommend it.

His Lord of The Rings starts out really good, but by the end (Helms Deep and stuff), it's just a malformed mess.

Fritz the Cat is legit a good film.
You can dislike bits of it, but its still his most competent.
The rest of his work suffers from the whole deal of either not enough money or retarded decisions.

I haven't watched Fritz yet, only most of his other works

Seconding coonskin and heavy traffic.

>It's like somebody took those painting you would see in a smoke shop (before they were legal) and made it a movie
an excellent way to describe the aesthetic of it

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I really wanted to like Wizards, but it bored me to tears. The aesthetic was pretty cool, but it was just so slow paced.

It was worth it for the final confrontation, but probably not in the way Bakshi wanted. I just laughed my ass off when the gnome pulled a gun out of nowhere and shot his brother after being a pacifist the whole story.

All of Bakshi's films, at leat the ones I've seen have both good and bad points to them.

Fritz The Cat and the sequel are good, but Crumb hated them.

Wizards was too simplistic and predictable in it's story telling, but there are some cool graphics, especially when you are stoned.

Lord of The Rings was alright, but it was too long, and he never properly finished it.

Cool World was good but too many people think it's a second rate Roger Rabbit rip off.

Never saw Coonskin or Heavy Traffic, so I can't comment on those.

>cool world
>good
The plot is nonsense and the only thing attractive about it are the backgrounds.
It was literally greenlit under the premise of "We want the Roger Rabbit audience", and a lot of production issues stem from Bakshi trying to get some perverted nonsense about cartoons having sex with humans released and hiding his work while the producers funding him hounded him constantly to tone it down because they wanted a more general audience for the film. He sorta met them halfway, but that doesn't change that both his original and revised script were garbage.
What was released is the result, and its a trainwreck.

Not a single recommendation for American pop
Honestly his more underrated.

>Fritz The Cat and the sequel are good, but Crumb hated them.
I don't know about the sequel, but I hardly think that was Bakshi's fault. Crumb going off and killing the whole thing over the films was a massive overreaction for at least one reasonably solid adaptation.

American Pop is his only movie I'd say is actually good.

Wizards is neat enough and accessible. It’s the closest we’re probably going to get to a Vaughan Bode movie , which is a shame because Bakshi doesn’t understand Bode, like he doesn’t understand Tolkien, or Robert Crumb.

Bakshi is famous for being a pioneer but his work doesn’t have much substance and relies on juvenile content that may have bern shocking in another decade but doesn’t hold up.

Check out Heavy Traffic or Wizards. Lord of the Rings is okay, and so is Fritz. They this most famous. If you like it continue. If you don’t, one or two movies will be enough.

>Generally when he steps outside his comfort zone of reflecting on the 60s and 70s, its trash to mediocre

I tend to agree his 60s-70s counter-culture pieces are just plain better. That's the material he knows best how to present, and it shows. But I just can't get behind slagging on his fantasy movies, not even turkeys like Cool World and LotR.

Coonskin is goat. Wizards, heavy traffic, Fritz, and American pop are all watchable but pale in comparison

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Fritz the cat is his best put work. Most of his stuff don't make much sense or are drag on for too long. American Pop is usually recommended but I say watch only the final 8-7 minutes. The blonde kid is such a likeable character